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  1. Well, I'll start if thats okay with the crowd! We had a fun weekend! Friday practice The car was pretty good! Able to lay down a 1:50 in the car right our of the box on a track i havent been to in 10 years. THey were only 20 minute sessions, or about 9 or 10 laps, so I was pretty happy with that time! We did encounter an issue where the car would just shut off. It was weird, because it would restart immediately, and then die like 3 to 10 seconds later. THe ECU didnt see anything wrong. Hmmm.... One of the team mates shows up at the track and within 5 seconds says... Its the coil. Im all like "all of them somehow"? WE tested spark. Sure enough the engine would run, and just totally lose spark. Replaced the coil pack assembly thingy and it ran fine the rest of the weekend. Saturday Raceday: Erik Hardy and I were both doing 2 stints each. Some moderate fuel conserve to go a full 2 hours. 1st stint and I had slightly adjusted the clutch pedal to allow easier heel and toe the night before. I checked that everything was functioning properly and it was....... Or so I thought. Every shift the clutch would slip and I would need to baby the throttle. Still managed a 1:49. Pit stop, I jump under the dash while erik was belted in and give the clutch push rod about 2 turns. Works great. Still got done within the 5 minute pit stop time. On Erik's last stint some interesting things happened. 1) He got involved in an incident with RVA. Im still not sure exactly what happened, but both cars got some body damage (entire front end of my car). I was told that the drivers had a conversation and neither were upset about it. Let me know if anybody has more details on this please. 2) Timing and scoring went down when we were 2 laps back from Nemisis. We were actually catching them, knew they were low on fuel, and HAD to make at least a driver change since they were gonna be over the 2 hour stint length. The timing of the T&S meltdown could NOT have been worse. We had numerous laps that were 5 minutes, 9 minutes, etc. So did they, but not the same time or same amount of time. Plus, they pitted and had 2 long laps due to that. We had NO idea whether we were just in front, or just behind them. In the end, it was decided that they won with us finishing about 1/2 lap back (which is kinda what I thought). The officials chatted with Grant and myself to explain what was going on and asked our input for how this should be resolved. Grant offered his data which included all of their laps. I also had my data, but decided that it wasnt worth T&S spending all of that time to figure it out. They had run a better race with a car that we couldnt touch by 4 seconds a lap! Congrats to Flatout Nemesis. That car is awesome! After the race, we did our regular maintenance and then headed over to Brewe Crew's paddock and hung out. Lots of great drinks, stories about Doc, and also introduced a lot of them to failure analysis. Had a great time and didnt actually stay up TOO late. Sunday Raceday: This day was used to put the guys and gals in the car who help us at the races and support us while wrenching on the car. Kip Mitchell, Bryan Baker, and my wife Julie, were racing on Sunday. They dont usually get a lot of seat time, but all have been involved in this stuff for MANY years. We decided on an aggressive strategy because we knew we wouldnt have the same pace as the day before. We ended up going 2.5 hours on fuel twice. Lots of conserve happening.... The plan was working and for our last stint, we were sitting in 12th place with about 1 hour to go. Some teams ahead of us still needed to pit, and we did not. However, it wasnt meant to be... The exhaust manifold gasket failed (AGAIN). The car was full of exhaust fumes and didnt seem very happy. I figured it wasnt worth it to burn down the car, or get sick for "possibly" a top 10. Loaded it on the trailer for the weekend. We will be back to this race. Pretty great track! Thank you to ALL who helped to put on this AWESOME event! Champcar people are awesome! P.s. We were running two brand new RS4 and two (3) race weekend old RS4. New tires were on the drivers side since that is the side that sees all the cornering on this track.
    17 points
  2. This race was not our best. The weather on Saturday paired with driver blunders over the course of the day prevented any chance at a decent finish. An early off that literally flooded our engine (borderline Hydrolocked) caused about a 30 minute pit stop to dry out the spark plugs and change out a steering knuckle due to a bad wheel bearing. Being out of contention meant racing in heavy down pours was a high risk low reward especially considering we were on the pole on Sunday. As the rain dissipated we returned to the track to test some setup changes and prep for the following day. We missed Saturdays checker flag by about 5 minutes because our shifter couldn’t decide what gears it wanted to work in. Sunday started with higher hopes. As mentioned above we were on the pole and the Sun was shining brightly. We started out strong but the fast guys eventually caught and passed us sitting us in P10 after our first stint. Another driver blunder in the second stint resulted in another flooded (literally) engine because for some reason we can thought our Honda would make a great boat. We kept at it though and even took the check flag directly behind the side by side Porsches. Lessons learned this weekend: 1. Rain sucks. 2. Garrettsville mud sticks to everything. 3. Honda’s make horrible boats. 4. RT660s don’t last 5. RS4s don’t wear 6. I still love doing this 7. I love our team and all the fans that came to watch us this weekend! see you all at GingerMan with some much needed additions. Kevyn
    15 points
  3. I'm just gonna have fun with this in a humorous way from this point, cause I can't take troy seriously... Most people: Bi-Plane Troy: Plane Most People: Tri-Plane Troy: Plane Most People: What the frack?! Troy: Planeeeeee
    15 points
  4. My suggestion is to make the petitions public as soon as they are submitted. Then everyone can rant and rave about them before the BOD even has to see them. Also would eliminate duplicates (sometimes even from the same person...)
    14 points
  5. As I've said before, and I'm sure I'll say it again.... When I started in chumpcar, we had an almost entirely stock 2nd gen rx7. It was valued at 520 pts with the way the aiv rules were. We finished 3rd in our first race. Now, I have an airdam, splitter, rear wing, some suspension parts, coilovers, an engine swap, a trans swap, and some other stuff that I can't remember. I'm now below 500 pts. The free stuff adds up over time. Brakes, radiators, swap stuff, shifters, springs, lower point values for items, etc. It all adds up over time. Does that 10 to 15 seconds quicker a lap make the race more exciting? Or does it just make the racing more expensive? I understand that less maintenance costs means more entries. Make the performance items cost more points and give the reliability stuff away for free. We are giving the reliability stuff away for free, but not raising any performance values. Champcar has already established that they / we will not reign in items that are too low in value. Therefore more free stuff, even if it is reliability items, just means more performance at this point.
    13 points
  6. CMP is a super-cool track. This was a super meaningful event, in many ways. Sophia's first race (and MY first enduro) was here in 2009. We finished 73rd, but we finished! To come back 12 years later and take the top slot is really, really, really damn cool. Same chassis, same body panels, fenders, hood, etc. I'm STOKED champcar has added this track to the schedule and absolutely plan to be back. Its a deceptively challenging track, but it has runoff in places (particularly the kink) that don't punish you for a minor off. Second, this was the first race on the new brake setup. I'm proud that I was able to design something, from scratch, get it made in the US by fellow champcar racers, put it on the car, and prove it works. There were/are some teething pains, but the feel is good, balance is close, and the pads look almost brand new. I've been told CMP is a abuser of brakes, so hopefully its a good sign. Finally, Sunday was my anniversary. So, thanks to my wife who puts up with my racing disease... She said, if you are gonna go race on our anniversary, you better win. The weekend was generally a rollercoaster of emotion. The intent was to run the SC300, which we had put about 100 hours of effort into over the past month. New engine, New Tune, new cold-air intake, etc. We took it to the dyno and got the tune really dialed in, conservatively, including doing 5th gear pulls to verify timing under maximum load. @vtjballeng hooked us up with some new knock sensors to log the knock and get the timing curve right. I also engaged pretty much EVERY engine protect feature in the ECU. The E30 came along purely for the test day, to hopefully solve the issues we had at the end of WGI. I had replaced most of the digital components (Thanks, FCP-Euro), including the DME, which I updated to FW69 (HAH). I cannot recommend the "turn 1" track day event in the future. The way they put all of us in the "lump" group (about 40 cars it seemed) but still want point by passing is just laughable, and should have NEVER been considered. The other run groups had about 10 cars and looked quite enjoyable. I've not been in a HPDE drivers meeting in many years, but the one we got to listen to Friday morning was pretty hilarious. The test day for the SC went great. Logging was checked after every session, and things looked pretty spot on. Had a blast "racing" it against the E30 head to head. The test day for the E30 went horrible. The new Firmware was not getting along with the car, and I was constantly flashing new tunes and swapping ECU's to figure it out. Some wouldn't run at all. Some would run but had phantom issues, like one made the thermostat not behave and go into limp mode. Another gave me misfire codes, but the car was still fast. Good thing we aren't racing it this weekend, right! Saturday started with the SC, but quickly went wrong. After pacing around for 30 minutes while they cleaned up the oil someone left in their trunk, the car almost immediately went into engine-protect mode for lean conditions. It had not done this on friday, so really, wtf lexus? We came in and flashed a new tune, thinking that the fuel pressure was giving us issues, but it was just a band-aid to the main issue. Then I get in the car and dont quite get the Kink right on the first hot-lap. After swapping drivers and still having the issue, we knew we were out of the running so we pulled behind the wall to really figure it out. We ended up finding a clogged fuel filter, a dying fuel pump, and a few other small issues. With those figured out, we went back out to shake the car down and it was going great until it wasn't. This pretty much ended the day, with us spending the rest of the race trying to get it back together. We borrowed a tie-rod from the Castrol guys (thanks) and had the rest of the parts, so we were able to go out the last hour and shake it down. Unfortunately, we found the replacement tie-rod was busted internally and causing some dynamic toe-out in right hand turns, which ended our shot at running the SC the next day. About 10 PM we decided to run the E30, so we dusted it off, installed the cool shirt and cameras, and went to bed. The pit draw for us was awesome, so I got to start 3rd and quickly put a gap to the field (with exception to the NC), but the car was pissed off and quickly stopped working. Turns out the issue from WGI and Friday was a pedal which was going bad. This was a "new" pedal to the car after VIR last year, because the old pedal was breaking the mount due to a design change.... Anyway, the pedal stopped working so we had to come in and swap it out. After that, we were just driving as fast as we could for the whole race and see how it shakes out. The rain ended up hurting us a bit, as the tires on the car were the oldest and worst set of RS4 I still had, but @Hurljohn struggled through it without losing much time. After the NC broke, we figured we could catch 2nd (rva) if we were lucky but Cone Crushers had it in the bag. RVA had their fastest driver in the car also. As our pit mates we were talking a bunch all day, which was a great time - enjoy the water cooler banter with those guys! @Rodger Coan-Burningham got in the car for a short stint to get us into the window and threw down some quick laps for not getting any time in the car on Friday. Then the caution/red flag happened and it was race-on. We were prepared to do a stop the next lap anyway, so we came in immediately when the pace car passed and were out just behind the field after only losing 1 lap to the leader during the stop. Cone crushers and RVA both did NOT stop. RVA wasn't ready, and Cone Crushers 2nd driver had only been out of the car for 50 minutes. During a green flag stop you lose 2.5 laps to the leader, and we were about 3 laps down at the time, so I knew I had to drive the wheels off of it and catch CC by at least a lap on the track to have a shot at it, assuming it stayed green. This all happened so fast that I don't think I realized it was happening until my crew chief explained it to me after I was in the car. I was out there at first driving to catch RVA, who had been JUST in front of the leader when the caution came out and got to do most of a lap around to catch the back of the field. Once CC pitted with about 30 minutes to go, and they took fuel, it was super close. I saw them at pit out when I came through the Kink, knowing I still had 30 seconds to get around and thinking that theres no way I can catch up that much in 30 minutes. Then when I get around they are still there! After they left I had about 20 seconds on them to meter out for the remainder of the race. I had a great time racing RVA and CC, both doing fast laps at the end there. Hated to see them broken with a few laps to go, as they were throwing down some crazy fast times trying to catch me. As always, thanks to Champcar for putting on a great event and thanks to CMP for having us - Flagging, EV, and Towing were top-notch. Those tow trucks were PASSING cars on the track, which was amazing to see.
    13 points
  7. NLS Racing #977 - Carolina Motorsports Park 2021 Race Report: After a very successful 2020, we have been struggling to get a handle on our engine temps this year. The only change was the deletion of our oil cooler due to having to pay points for our intake manifold. We spent the last few months trying to build a real "Race" engine. Resurfaced the heads, checked block deck for straightness, did a fair amount of porting, gasket matching everything. The only thing we didn't get a chance to do was to get a fresh tune and Friday morning practice showed us that we should have. The engine seemed fine but was a little flat. We played with tuning throughout the day, mind you we are not pros at tuning, but a little bump in timing seemed to wake it up on the final practice session of the day. Final checks complete, we were ready for battle on Saturday. We got a favorable draw for starting position, placing us 9th on the grid. We held onto that for quite a while as we circulated around under that early caution for what felt like forever. Finally on to green flag racing, hovering around the 4-6th position for most of the first 2hrs. We had some great racing with the Hong Norrth blue MX3. Any thoughts of winning this race quickly went away after we saw what Flatout Nemesis could do. Damn, that's a fast, very well-built car. We pitted a little early to avoid the rush onto pit road. Second driver strapped in and sent on his way. Unfortunately, it wasn't long before the temps started to climb. Not wanting to do any further damage to our new "Race" engine, we headed for the garage for inspection. No real obvious culprit and already out of contention, we parked it for the time being. Our fearless leader Cliff hopped in his car for a 5hr round trip back to Hickory to grab our old oil cooler setup and an extra steering wheel, as I forgot to mention, it broke pushing it into the garage. Perhaps a blessing in disguise we called it early. During this, we also found our brand new LF wheel was broken and the tire losing air slowly. We prepped everything we could while he was gone, hoping to get back on track before the race ended. He hauled butt back to us and made back on track with about 30 mins remaining. But alas, it was all for nothing as the damage was already done. Head gasket was blown. These dang VQ30's are sensitive to temp spikes. Now we had a call to make, pack it up with our tail between our legs or swap in our spare engine? We came to race, so engine swap it was. Challenge accepted. We divided and conquered. A couple guys pulling the engine while the others prepped the replacement. We suspected the spare engine may have been wounded as well. So it got torn down to retorque the heads. All the cams had to come out and back together, retimed, and a mile of silicone scraped and resealed. We began at 5pm and had it running by 11 that night. Not too bad for our first at-the-track engine swap. On a side note, Harbor Freight engine hoists have a laughably short boom that barely reached past the radiator. Somehow we made that work. On to Race day 2. Starting near the back this time, we slowly clawed up into the top 10 but any optimism of finishing the day went out the window as the water pressure and temps rose above comfort levels. Brought it to the garage for a coolant bleed and fill for one last-ditch effort, looking to make it to the red flag break. Our next driver took a little easy, coasting into corners and lifting early to help manage temps. We did our best to stay out of anyone's way that was faster or a contender, pointing them by when time allowed. Not much free time around CMP. The car had been smoking throughout the second stint. During the red flag break, we noticed a fair amount of oil dripping from seemingly everywhere. So as not to oil down the track or grenade the engine, we made the decision to push her back to the trailer and pack it up. We've got some work to do and figure out our issues. A bad weekend at the race track is still a good weekend. We had fun together, got to chat with our racing friends, and make some new ones. This weekend reiterated why we love Champcar so much, everyone was so helpful, giving us parts, tools, advice, or pointing us in the right direction. I'm not sure I remember all the different teams that helped us, but a huge thanks to Hong Norrth, PQ Racing, Prefect Racing, GMS Racing, Grit N Grind Racing, the team in garage stall 20, James Ballenger, and anyone else we forgot. We do our best to help anyone in need as well, so anytime you may need something, don't hesitate to come ask us. Keep up the great work Champcar. Thanks to all that make this happen. We're shooting for a return to AMP this fall, followed up by VIR North.
    13 points
  8. This recap will be more about my personal experience as a first time Champcarer rather than a team report, but I wanted to share since it was such a great experience. I've been part of a team building our car for about a year now, but it's a long way off so when the opportunity to drive with another team presented itself I couldn't say no. Before this weekend I didn't have any W2W racing experience but was thankfully able to learn a ton from the guys at Full Send Motorsports. They've been running with Champcar for about 3 years now with their E46 BMW 330ci. The camping at Nelson Ledges was truly camping and made for an interesting dynamic to our race weekend. Our VW vans were great, but I'd be lying if I wasn't at least a little jealous of the proper RVs. Saturday's race was like nothing we'd ever seen before. With our pit stall we had a great starting position, but with a 530 point car we were starting the race 3 laps down. Ultimately that was inconsequential as Saturday quickly became a battle of attrition. As the second driver, my stint was during the very heavy rain and was a wild way to make a racing debut. Thankfully with a bit of caution and plenty of luck I was able to turn consistent laps and stay out of trouble. We ultimately finished Saturday in 19th place with 3 clean pit stops and no incidents. On Sunday the clouds miraculously parted and gave us all a much deserved beautiful day of racing. We'd again be starting dead last and 3 laps down, but this time from the back of the pack. I was in the car first, and it was awesome to be able to take the green flag for our team. Like before, I started off pretty cautiously wanting to be sure that our tires and brakes were up to temp. I must have lost 10 positions on that opening lap, but was then able to settle in and begin picking them back off one by one. By the end of my stint I was able to move us from 38th up into 18th and set our team's FTD. We had another trouble free day with 3 clean pitstops and ultimately brought it home in P12 for the team's best result yet. And finally, it wouldn't be a camping weekend if one of Volkswagens didn't break. HUGE thank you to Champcar and the track workers for letting us plug in the welder and fix the trailer axle that decided it wasn't ready to go home yet. Overall, a dream come true weekend. I'm so thankful for the opportunity to drive with Full Send Motorsports and for the warm/wet welcome from all the racers, Champcar staff, and track workers. For any other noobs reading this, I can't recommend enough starting off as arrive & drive or even crewing for an established team.
    12 points
  9. The BoD is elected by roughly the same % of members as those submitting petitions and commenting. If petitions and comments are less relevant because of the lack of participation what does that say about the BoD? If a lawsuit would end CCES, then this is a risk that should be taken seriously and mitigated. All it takes is one pissed off member. I get that there are limited resources and this is part time. I applaud the previous efforts to leverage members (Like Chris in the Technical Writer role) and I think efforts like this should be used more to increase overall bandwidth and assist the BoD in making decisions. Each member calling each BoD member to get their version of events sounds like a not so great way of communicating. I very much like the forum posts from BoD members explaining their stances on different topics.
    10 points
  10. The solution for CV problems.
    10 points
  11. Prefect Racing Report This was the first race for this car after writing off the Castrol car at Road Atlanta at the beginning of the year. Karl @rodthefemur spent the time building the new racecar and it still came down to the day before the race to finish it all up..or at least as much as a new build can be ready. There is still plenty to do but at least it was ready to go. We ran a few laps on Friday and found some minor issues that required some hammer massaging. So the car is ready to race. The Indy dream team is back including Maciej and Karl driving, and their brothers Robert and Sean as crew. Remaining members of Prefect couldn't make this one with lots of excuses like "I have a newborn baby girl" and "I'm the only one on call in a 5 county radius" and "I'm in Arizona and can't fly back and forth in time" Saturday race was going great with no issues of any sort for the first half. Car is comfortably in the top 5 and really having an incredible debut. During the third stint, dinner bad news comes down from race control that the brake lights aren't turning off and we've got to get it sorted. Bring the car into the pits and after some quick checks, it's not entirely clear what's going on with it so we decide to retire early and take the time to get it right. Everyone is really happy with the debut despite the early end to the race. @Chris Huggins and @vtjballeng come through with some advice and tools and finally the silliest of failures is diagnosed. The brake pedal position sensor had unscrewed itself by a couple threads where it would no longer be deactivated by the pedal. We throw some loctite on, move some used tires around, pack it up and get set for Sunday. Sunday morning warm up lap there's a horrible vibration so the car is pitted immediately. Front left wheel wasn't torqued down so easy enough fix only costs us 20 positions to start the race. But the early stints are essentially uneventful and we get the car up into the top 5 again. After the break, things start to get interesting. Shortly into the afternoon stint, tpms detects a small leak from the left front tire, but the pressure is still in operable range so we keep going. At least it's pouring rain so everyone is slowed down a bit and not as much work is being done by the tire. But inevitably, the rain stops and it can't hang on anymore so we bring the car in for an unscheduled stop with 3:10 to go. Karl goes out with orders to conserve fuel and does really consistent laps but after 45 minutes in the car, it's clear we're not going to make it on fuel. So with 2 hours to go, we fill it up and put Maciej in the car.... And the next lap the red flag comes out the rest of the teams pit under yellow....dejecting. So with a little less than 2 hours to go, we decide to go for broke and see what happens. The race for first is not realistic, but creeping up on the top five seems possible and a hour into the stint everyone's got calculators it to see what we need. Catching up to level 1 is possible with around 10 laps to go, catching up to Simon says, is a longshot, but but impossible. This is a new car, with new bugs to sort out, but the full send green light is given because there is no difference between 6th an 12th, but if this car gets to impound then it will really be an accomplishment. Here's that last 30 minutes. Grinding away the delta little by little works and we manage passes on both the cars in front in the last 10 laps. As soon as that's accomplished, we switch to defense as it's unclear whether these used tires or the car are going to make it to the end given that every ounce has been extracted in the last 1:45. Simon puts on a formidable attack, but it's hard to pass the SC with it's braking ability. Then cone crushers retires, and unbelievable, we finish the race on the podium by .5 sec. Really an inconceivable finish with the car's state on Thursday night. Thanks to everyone that came around and helped Maciej after that stint. This was a really fun race with dynamic weather and drama up until the end. Looking forward to Mid-Ohio for the next race
    10 points
  12. It doesn't save you any money. It saves you points. You were always allowed to run an aluminum radiator. They just cost points. Nobody changed the cost of aluminum radiators, they changed how many points they are. 10 points equals a splitter or wing.
    9 points
  13. Got the cab and cage painted this weekend! Next is wiring, dash, lights
    9 points
  14. I have done a lot of racing with ChampCar. Been to over 250 ChampCar races. Even have a 12 or so trophies. Don't put yourself into a position to be part of any carnage. Situational awareness. Now I know some of you are pros. So my recommendations are only my opinion based on my experiences with ChampCar. So don't focus on trapping the fastest speed to the next corner like your at your favorite HPDE. Focus on who and what is around you. And determine your next moves by those who's and things going on around you.
    8 points
  15. Seats in, belts in, dash mocked up, wiring next week when Pegasus package gets here!
    8 points
  16. This sort of thing is why I've been absent from the forum for the better part of the last year. An honest question about the budget for a race weekend was asked and the tire discussion has taken over yet again. I'll check back in on tech discussions in a few months when the 2022 BCCR comes out, until then you folks enjoy arguing over rubber!
    8 points
  17. It looks faster than it is. That’s not saying much.
    8 points
  18. I have gone through probably 50+ axles while racing with ChampCar, going to RWD is the only thing I have ever found that works.
    8 points
  19. I did. He had 1-5% chance of making it work. And we were on the same lap.
    8 points
  20. Hi all! We had a great weekend, mostly. Some minor issues came along but nothing we couldn't handle, and it was pretty hilarious sharing a pit with @Team Infiniti. The practice day was kinda a mess but at least we all got some time on track to be a little familiar with it before going green on Saturday. I had a particularly interesting moment where I made the greatest save of my racing life. Sorry for the video of a video, but I'll get around to processing the actual gopro footage over the next couple weeks. After that experience, we added more spoiler angle and dropped a few PSI from our rear tire pressures. Before CMP, we upped our front springs from 400 to 500 lbs/in, and put our OEM rear sway bar back in, so this was our first drive in it with those changes. I really hope someone has the video of that from behind/outside. I'd love to see it! Saturday went pretty good. We've added a RaceCapture system into the car and this was our first race where all the drivers got the benefit of live lap timing via a tablet. One of our drivers managed to get with .5 seconds of my best lap, which is a solid 1.5 seconds closer than any of them have managed in the past, so it's definitely working! We also added a hydramat to attempt to avoid our fuel starvation issues and it seems to have made a huge difference as we were able to get to 2 hours on our 15 gallon fuel tank. I also played with the tune a bit to lean it out, so that may have helped a small amount as well. Sean went out and drove some amazing laps, logging a best time of 1:57.0xx, beating my practice day best of 1:58.1xx. I'm always the fastest guy on the team, so Sean was making sure I had to work to keep that streak going. During my stint, SOMEONE forgot to plug in the coolsuit. Again. I was cooking. I could feel the disconnected lines but couldn't seat them myself, and CMP has NO WHERE you can kinda relax and catch your breath. You're always doing something. I also felt a lot of dynamic steer from the car when hitting the gas or the brake. I eventually brought the car in for a look, but the outer tierod felt okay, the wheel bearing appeared solid-ish, and the control arm bushings were kinda nasty looking but probably fine. Everyone else told me to get over it, so I went back out and just sent it for the rest of my stint. I managed to log a 1:56.5xx, holding onto my pride. We played mostly conservative the rest of the day so we could avoid an extra pit stop. Our only major issue of the weekend was when Bob did a half spin off track in the carousel and the car started shaking badly. A bent wheel or two later and he was back on track to take the checkered flag in 23rd place overall - our best finish yet. Sunday was mostly uneventful. We had started saturday with four new tires, but bent two wheels. We only had tires left that had done both Sebring AND Daytona, so we had no idea if they'd last the day. Sean went out first again and we figured he'd set the top pace and the car would just get slower throughout the day. Ray went out before and after the red flag and got the car through the rainy bits with only a couple off-road trips. Our new splitter appears strong enough to handle plowing the track given how much mud and grass we scraped out of it! Bob went out third and turned laps steadily all stint, working his times ever faster as the track dried out. When I went out, I went for broke, hoping to make up a few places. I somehow found another second of track time to get our fastest lap of 1:55.7xx, and we took the checkered flag at 4:30 in 16th place - our new best finish ever. There were a few headscratcher moments out there, but I was rather annoyed when on the last corner of the last lap of the last day, Castrol Prefect dive-bombed me into turn 14 (I left him room as I'd seen him coming), then tracked out right through me, forcing me off track. There was no contact only because I dodged off track to avoid him, and I'm very lucky I didn't bend a wheel as there's a massive hole on the outside of those rumble strips. Edit: Mac reached out and apologize - no harm no foul. They were fighting hard for their finish and all I was fighting for was a fun final lap haha Regardless, best racing weekend ever. Now, to go over our car very closely as Ed keeps threatening to put a pinhole in a radiator hose to force me to upgrade to a 3.0L engine in our contour...
    8 points
  21. 8 points
  22. We run 225/45R15 for both. In the Sunday AM Stint with NEW RT660s I was able to click off a 1:17.8 but fell off quickly as the tires overheated and got greasy. On Used RS4s in my afternoon session I was able to pull a best of 1:17.9 and probably could have gotten more but the race ended as he was finding more speed. The RS4s were stable at temp and I was pushing them at a 1:18.5ish pace at the end. We took the front RT660s off after 3 hours of track use and the driver front was showing signs of chunking. We started the RT660s at 28psi cold and the RS4s at 29psi cold. The RS4s have three races on them now and still have life. I think moving forward we will just stick with the RS4s as the difference between our drivers skills is still pretty wide and tires don't really matter for us at this point. (we aren't to the point where we need to find every tenth of a second) Kevyn
    7 points
  23. I proposed and received approval at the last board meeting a rolling 15 year rule. Cars already on the list <15 yrs old = good to go, no blanket changes. Cars NOT on the list >15 years old = put in a request via tech desk, new cars added quarterly, EC until then (no change from current system) Cars NOT on the list <15 years old = Will not be added to the list at this time. Welcome to come race in EC under current rules (2.2.2)
    7 points
  24. Agree, and everything will be ok. Now some of us sitting around the campfire want to poke at Troy a couple more times.
    7 points
  25. Free radiator...now more points available for speed parts. Some cars will benefit more than others, but for sure some will benefit.
    7 points
  26. Kinda fixed it with more free parts, not a fix to me as it just provides more speed creep and more dollars to spend. To me it should have been stock or points. But you are right it fixed the 3 row vs 2 row.
    7 points
  27. I really didn’t think this was too much of an issue until maybe 3-4 years ago, but it is becoming abundantly clear that a good portion of many team’s weekend budgets is spent on tires. The tire companies will continue making 180-200 tread wear tires that are closer and closer to competition slicks or designed for auto cross that can be used for a significant performance advantage in ChampCar while at the same time raising the overall cost for any team competing for the podium. As a member of the TAC I would love to champion any good idea to reduce the average tire cost of our members. Please feel free to reach out to me if you have an idea how this is best accomplished.
    7 points
  28. First test drive. In 3 months I: -Installed new fuel system -Rebuilt suspension including all new bushimgs and ball joints -Rebuilt motor -Fabricated new dash and re-wired to be clean and not a botched abortion of a rats nest. -New ujoints and clutch -Had fire system serviced -Changed a bunch of stuff out to stop getting dinged on small stuff points. Thus far, only thing I noticed is a small leak from the water pump where I capped off the heater core lines. That indian head gasket sealer didnt work so gonna step it up to some JB weld. Only things left before VIR -Fix leak -Alignment -Break in clutch/motor/brakes -Dyno (Shes lean) -Install some no-skid on the floor.
    7 points
  29. Another thing to consider is as team owner builder, verses just a driver for my team, I am vested heavily in these decisions though my driver's are not as much, therefore I am on here regularly and the only one from my team who would be. I think the vocal minority is highly important to the decision making process.
    7 points
  30. I can address the rad rule. We've tried to implement one for a couple of years now. This is Champcar, we are running a lot of older cars and in some cases there is no longer a stock rad available OR it is outrageously priced. One of our series goals is affordable racing. There are usually 2 core aluminum ones on eBay for $100 for most marquees, but we were charging 10 points for one. With the idea of alleviating the costs of new OEM rads (that still have plastic ends on them), we made 2 core or single core free and only wanted to charge for triple core or racing rads. That brought a lot of negative feedback from not only the teams that had triple core rads and were paying 10 points (we increased it to 30), but also from tech who didn't think they could easily tell the difference between 2 core and 3 core. Hell I couldn't tell from looking at one. So we decided to punt on it and make them all free. Every car needs a rad, unlike oil coolers, trans coolers, etc. If you want to know who all voted and how, we had 5 members of the board on the call (two couldn't make it) so we had a quorum. Four voted for free rads (Tiffany, Chris, Rodger and I) and one voted to leave the rule the way its been (Tyler). Seats up for election this Fall are Bruce, Mike and me. Feel free to vote for or against us. Or run against us.
    7 points
  31. My own opinion here: The tech desk was never intended to be its own second rule book. Its gotten way out of hand on both sides. The original intent was to get away from "emails" so everyone was on the same page. Most of the members are using it as intended - asking Tech specific questions about implementation of specific rules that already exist, or asking for VPI updates/additions. Then there are a few people who are using it to probe for angles or loopholes... These are the things that lead to the "second rule book" perception. There is a tough balance to strike here. The whole mantra of champcar is "open rule book" = if the rule book doesn't say you CANT do it, then you can. This is opposite of the normal "if the rule book doesnt say you CAN, then you cant!" Maintaining this for the varying cars we race has always been, and will always be, a challenge. Most of the members don't pay attention to the forums or the tech desk. They build a car with their buddies and come race. I bet they have a ton of fun doing it too.
    7 points
  32. I've been busy, and other things have been more important for my champcar time. There have been 558 tickets submitted since February. Its honestly a lot of work.
    7 points
  33. Our trick came from many hours of searching forums for clues to making these things survive. The offroad buggy guys suggested this and it's worked great for us so far. Backstory: for the last two years, we've been blowing apart outer cv joints at a rate of two axles per race. We tried repacking with standard cv grease, venting boots, and bigger rotors with more cooling. None of that worked. We tried contacting DSS and they told us they'll make us axles but won't repack our OEM or aftermarket axles. Finally, I followed the advice of several people online and from this series: I ordered some used OEM axles off ebay, and some brand new A1 Cardones from rockauto. I separated the oem axles and removed the tripod joint from the aftermarket ones since those have cv joints that aren't separatable. I cleaned out ALL of the old grease using gasoline... This took ages and made a huge mess. Then, I repacked the joints with a 50/50 mixture of Swepco Moly and BelRay anti-seize. And I mean packed it... Probably 20 minutes of smashing this incredibly nasty mixture into the joint. I also added the little brass vent tube when putting the boot back on. I used a serrated knife to cut a small groove in the small end of the boot to let the vent sit neatly. The one other thing I did that I don't know if it had any effect oo not was I cut a piece of rubber to act like a cv saver inside the boot. It's a little hard to describe, but basically it's a semi rigid piece that the axle shaft passes through but that sits against the inside of the boot and helps prevent grease from migrating from the join towards the small end of the boot. I don't know if it mattered because we've now run three 14 hour races on the repacked oem/repacked aftermarket axles and haven't blown a single one. We just ran CMP on our second set of repacked axles and didn't lose a single axles over the two days of racing. We're calling this the solution, and finally I won't have to leave every race down two or more axles, slightly singed, and covered in CV grease. ...this problem was so bad, I literally have 11 axles in the trailer as spares. https://www.belray.com/product/molylube-anti-seize-compound-mining/ https://www.amazon.com/Swepco-101-SWEPCO-Moly-Grease/dp/B005I078MA Can't help with the mystery tears. We got one in our first set of axles we repacked which is why we're on the second set now. Seems to just happen every few races, I'm guessing from all the crap on the track.
    7 points
  34. This whole situation would be simpler if we were not repurposing parts.
    6 points
  35. The advantage of DI engines is not that they can make more HP at wide open throttle, they are equal or even worse in some cases to a really good port injection engine. The big advantage is being able to run really lean in low load conditions which are almost never seen in racing. With direct injection, wide range variable cam timing, EGR, and boost, the modern engines can switch into and out of high power mode and super lean cruise mode where they are running close to Miller cycle. A cautionary example of what these engines can and can’t do is when Ford put the original 2.0L EcoBoost engine in the Explorer. The available power that engine had vs the weight it had to carry around meant that the engine was forced to run in high power boost mode much of the time and the fuel milage was dismal. The upgrade program was called the FE or fuel economy upgrade, featured a new cylinder head, turbo and some other bits and was worlds better.
    6 points
  36. Here's the expanded Civic oil pan: Added about 1 3/4 quarts of capacity plus is internally baffled with trapdoors. Before anyone gets too excited about the missing engine parts, that was the mock-up block that allowed me to look into the pan from above and get the pickup located where I wanted it. I'm deciding whether to attach another plate to the pickup for better oil control but am concerned about drainback. Maybe just the left part and leave the circle over the pick up open. I'll be using the stock windage tray so probably am overdoing things again. I used 16 gauge metal to make sure it would take some punishment. I didn't worry too much about looks but it will at least get painted before installation. The pan essentially rests on the splitter so it has some protection. Handy tip: MIG welding tends to leave pinholes so TIG when you can. To help find those pinholes quickly, fill the pan with water and use an air nozzle with a rubber tip to run along all your welds and watch for the bubbles. Lots faster than waiting for a drip and also finds those tiny holes.
    6 points
  37. In response to the title of this thread..... Here is my advice.... 1) Take all of your spare money that you gathered for 6 months or a year. 2)Clean out your garage. 3) put the money in the middle of your garage floor. 4) burn it. 5) see who else shows up and decides they want to do the same thing. Lolz. Racing is awesome / sucky / stressful / awesome / expensive. I personally own my "teams" racecar. I am pretty much the only one that works on it. Most of the people that drive my car I met through champcar racing. We are all spread out across the country and therefore it's tough to have work sessions that other people show up to. That being said, it makes the money side of stuff straight forward. I figure out how much to charge them to race and they pay it or don't race. (Usually about 4 to 5k per race weekend all in - for everything. Divide that by number of drivers for each person's share.)
    6 points
  38. Everything in life involves compromises. Responses to latest radiator ruling: More free parts, speed creep. True No longer have to buy expensive, non available stock radiator, saves me money. True Previous rule kept me from using my 3 core radiator I just bought based on previous ruling. True Some people are happy, some aren't. We made a decision based on where we were at that moment in time, seemed to be the best compromise all considered.
    6 points
  39. L98 would allow us to run it as a '91 which is valued at 450pts. 92-96 cars are valued at 550. So save 100 points. With generous use of a grinder and a working the motor within the rules I'm pretty sure I can get it back to (if not close to) '96 HP levels (WITH not having to rev it as hard either). But the biggest driving reason to going to L98 is we won't have to deal with this horrible optispark.
    6 points
  40. Yep, I agree. We do not need to go anywhere near where the organization that many of us still belong and participate is. Champcar is about an ocean away from there so a step or so in that direction wont hurt...it could really help. About that other organization, a club does not exist for nearly 80 years by doing everything wrong. Many demonize it, but truly lots of motorsport fun has happened under the SCCA banner for a very very long time.
    6 points
  41. In my opinion: We aren't allowed to run slicks, so every tire in the series can handle rain to some extent. If you want to run specific rain tires and then switch to specific dry tires if it dries up, then you would incur whatever tire change penalty is in place.
    6 points
  42. I think a lot of the petitions should have another avenue to be addressed since they are more clarifications. Also, multiple petitions were submitted on the same thing because the board had said in previous years the petition had to be approved/nixed simply as it was written and not by the merit of the requested change. We need to clean this up, make it very simple so people don't look at it and say ah hell that's too much and I have other stuff to do.
    6 points
  43. Jez. This got pretty serial real quick like. 1. Meeting Minutes are recorded. The meeting minutes for the annual BOD meeting were published and the meeting was done in real time on live stream. 2. Minutes are kept for every meeting, per the requirement. I have not seen any written requests for additional minutes, but I don't get Champcar mail - the CEO does. I'm sure if he got a certified letter requesting information per legal requirement, the law would be followed. Champcar doesn't need legal trouble - and a lawsuit or similar could and likely would end the fun for all of us. If you want to start making "illegal" accusations, please back up and start thinking seriously. That stuff won't make you popular among your peers. 3. Individual voting results for the petitions are being tabulated per member request. Next year I will be SURE to make the Yes and No for each member accurate as we go. This year, We just recorded Yes or No overall, as had been the previous practice. We were all in a meeting discussing, took a vote of ayes or nays and the overall result was recorded. Seeing Y, N, or N/A for each petition really won't give you the full picture, but its not secret info. The hours of discussion on each petition were not recorded, as we don't have a stenographer on staff. 4. We have fully transitioned from a "benevolent dictator" to a "group of advisors", and part of that is we need a quorum to make decisions, so it cant happen instantly. None of the BOD does this to put food on the table. We all have day jobs, families, etc. The board generally meets once a month for an hour to discuss the goings on and provide guidance for the club. The things we do beyond that are as volunteers to support the club - if we stopped, then the club would have to add employees or contractors to get the same work done, adding cost for everyone. No-one wants that, so some patience on these things is needed. 5. Talked to who? Didn't get anywhere, or didn't get where you wanted to go? In the air of public transparency, here's our conversation re. the rad rule.. Not really sure where you wanted it to go, but I feel I clearly addressed your question. The Radiator Rule and Rain Light Rule were discussed at the July meeting and are pending final wording (which I used this AM's Champcar time to write this post instead of doing) from me to be sent to everyone for approval. The tire rules were hotly debated by everyone on the board. That was pretty well discussed in the meeting I thought. Also covered in the meeting is that only 51 members submitted responses/opinions on the petitions. 25% of those were from the same team. How much stock should the BOD put into 1.15% of the club? Were the responses reviewed and considered - YES. Were Emails, Personal interactions, phone calls, etc reviewed and considered - YES.
    6 points
  44. Titanium is a very sensitive material to work with. I keep this on my desk as an example of how something as minor as a inadvertent weld strike can be. That one little arc strike probably resulted in a quarter of a million dollar failure. Machining it, cutting it, welding it, using it, whatever, it can be fickle to use (and expensive). You guys were lights out this weekend other than this one component failure. Your car is probably the cleanest and most optimized build I have seen in the series. And well driven. Congrats on the win Saturday.
    6 points
  45. Hong Norrth GB2 Supra Race Report First, congrats to the overall and class winners, and THANK YOU to the Champcar staff and wrecker crews who kept the yellow flags to a minimum. Grumpy Butt version 1.0 was retired after Road Atlanta in February after 16,000 race miles, a few thousand track day miles, and too may bent parts to straighten. It was a 3 month thrash to prepare a new chassis - from pulling a rusting hulk out of the woods in TN, to adding a cage (the only work I don't do personally), and adding new upgrades (Halo seat, Fuel cell). Friday I registered for the test day to confirm that I fixed an oil leak from the car's first track day 2 weeks before the race. Check... no oil leak and the track is still fun. The front end was pushing but I just ran out of time to add front aero. Saturday Our pit number was drawn randomly to start the race in the lead! It was amazing to see all that open space in front of the pace car. I drove the first stint to make sure that the car would't break and hurt someone else during the first miles driven in anger. I managed to run conservatively (fast lap of 1:50 flat) while maintaining 3rd place after GRM and Flat-out drove by in the first hour. My car didn't have anything for them all weekend - they were FAST. My second driver put in a solid stint running a 1:49.xx, followed by a 3rd stint driver who lowered the car ftd to 1:48.6, consistently maintaining 3rd place for most of the day. The 4th driver stint started well but ended our race day. After 30 minutes the driver radioed that something was wrong with the brakes, so we brought him in and noticed the fluid reservoir was very low. I topped it up and sent him back out to see if things changed. 2 laps later the problem got worse and I told him to drive to the paddock. A quick scan of all 4 calipers didn't reveal the problem, but it became apparent when I removed them. the inner pads on both rear calipers were metal, and the left one was welded to the piston. The piston/pad literally popped out like the caliper was giving birth when I lifted it off the rotor. Some brake work and other maintenance was done to prep for Sunday. Sunday: This is a short story. The driver who had the brakes fail at the end of Saturday started the race Sunday, moving from dead last to 7th in the first hour. Since I only had a spare set of the same crappy rear pads I asked my drivers to run in "conservation" mode all day. He was turning great lap times (1:50) by driving smoother until the front Bilstein strut decided to give up in a way that allowed lateral movement of the wheel, which contacted the coiler perch. With no spare we were done for the weekend. Fun was had, lessons were learned, an GB2 drove onto the trailer at the end. That's a good weekend.
    6 points
  46. Just got home from CMP. Went straight to work like Dana told me. Watches arrived.
    6 points
  47. This is something that's always bothered me. Why are we allowing vehicles onto the VPI list that nobody races just so the engine is now available for a swap?
    5 points
  48. Wyatt and I have talked, we have something worked out. As soon as I get the confirmed details I'll push it out to the Team Captains. Dana
    5 points
  49. -A team interested in becoming relevant might want to know how much more they might be spending -An outsider looking to join a team -An outsider looking to start a team -A team who may have chosen a poor path that is costing way too much to go way to slow or break constantly -Someone from another budget series looking to make the jump -A series who wants to brand themselves as budget to ensure they are still following that plan Other than those people I guess nobody would care.
    5 points
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