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  1. If wheels are rolling across the track, then teams are either pushing the car too hard, or not being diligent enough about maintanance/inspections. This whole thing stinks like backroom deals and the good ol boys clubs. Points keep costs and speed in check because dollars cannot. There will always be someone willing to throw metric tons of money at a car to buy a trophy. The points system and the TCV before it worked to keep that in check. And in single class racing it absolutely Must be kept in check. In class racing, the big boys want to run the top two classes which let's t
    12 points
  2. "Assigning points for hubs was discussed thoroughly over a four month period by Tech and Mike and as many drivers as I could talk to at race events" Let me just say that his pile of crap right here is supposedly what was eliminated when the "old" chumpcar powers that be were removed. No one thought an email should be sent out? Not once did anyone stop and ask "Didn't we commit to not changing the rules during the year"? No one? Not once? Seriously, I was told there would be no rule changes mid year and any would be clearly communicated. None of that occured here, just found out ab
    9 points
  3. Good Luck to the Indy drivers! If anyone coming out of Florida on I-75 has any trailer issues (tires, bearings or lights) stop by Camping World in Lake Park Ga. 5 miles north of the Florida line. I will get you in and out quick. Ask for Andy.
    8 points
  4. Why is it that after we allow "big aero" at limited points, bigger wheel/tire combos that require additional rules on "how to legally flare your fenders" we are surprised at bearing failures? Being this is (supposedly) a limited prep, grassroots series, shouldn't we reconsider the first two problems rather than create another (near free bearings - now framed as a "safety issue"?). Perhaps one should look at reducing aero allowances and require stock fender profiles/wheel openings! Flame on as it seem there is a small vocal group of "haves" that seem to be driving the series and t
    8 points
  5. Just checked in for my flight tomorrow and got my boarding pass. I'll be working the race. Totally and completely geeked.
    6 points
  6. Fewer points spent on hubs leaves more points to spend on engine and aero.
    6 points
  7. Hubs are weak and need to be replaced all the time? Too bad, we didn't pick your car. Don't want to spend points on things that don't make you faster? Too bad, you might not finish the race. Why not announce the rule changes to the whole series so we all can benefit from it as soon as it happens? Why are some people allowed to benefit and not others?
    6 points
  8. He'll, a member of the tac (who sells the type of hubs we are talking about) is blindsided by this.... and d oesnt agree....
    6 points
  9. Of course you haven't received any negative response till now. The only people that knew about this value change is the ones that were already cheating and using aftermarket hubs and not claiming them. To help them comply the series has lowered the value of the part by 75%. Why would they complain? If this was a 4 month process where was the announcement? This wasn't listed on the mid season tech rules interpretation list. This poop happens and over again no matter what and I'm over it. Chasing a moving target is getting old. The rules are far from stable and I'm not even sure w
    6 points
  10. Honestly, I find it odd that this has blown up... Hubs are NOT a suspension component, nor will they make anyone faster, actually, as I mentioned earlier, they are weight where one does not want more. Carry on, the sky is not falling, all I care about is Indy prep, and its almost done. No green font used or implied.
    5 points
  11. Agree 100% We run two of these apparent wheel shedding horribly reliable cars...........Can't wait to spend as much as it cost to build and entire car to outfit them with these hubs to lower our run costs...... Seriously though, it feels like we are losing the entire identity of the series, budget, grass roots racing. Tell me what you can buy for some other makes made from Titanium and other space age metals all for 2.5 pts. It makes it much easier to be the team that comes in with the $$$ to be able to compete with the teams with the knowledge to make these cars work within the
    5 points
  12. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS! If you are taking your car beyond the limits of the stock components you are then in need of an increase in performance over stock. 2.5pts is ridiculous and does smell shady. Most hub failures I've seen aren't catastrophic wheel launching failures either, it's the bearings themselves that let go from improper maintenance and checking by the team racing them. If I know that I can now drive over every rumble flat out without worrying about the stress I am putting on the hub/bearing assembly with all of my aero and hp that we have already added, then yes, I a
    4 points
  13. Yea I agree. It’s hard to understand how it works and it’s still too subjective I think. When someone gets called out using a non oem part it would seem like tech would have to go to the rule book and pick the closest thing to that part to assign points. In this case it’d be suspension parts at 10pts each. Then if someone thinks that’s too high they can petition for a change in that specific part. I’ve watched many many hours of Miata’s going by with all four wheels. I think the safety argument is way over used when someone wants to buy a shinny new thing for performance
    4 points
  14. Leaving early in the morning . Be on the lookout white 93 tbird black wheels if seen on the side of the road stop and give Conner and I a ride ..
    3 points
  15. If you want something accessible to the driver, I'd use push-to-reset breakers so you dont' have the driver trying to fumble with fuses.
    3 points
  16. To add fuel to the backroom lobbying conspiracy: So the discussion "started" right around when the Miatahubs billet hubs became available, and then assigned a low 2.5pt/ea value within days of series sponsor Wilwood releasing their version of the upgraded miata hubs? Remember when Wilwood brakes only were the cheapest option... Coincidence? For the record, since repacking our front wheel bearings with Amsoil Dominator Race Grease between each race weekend we havent failed a wheel bearing in 3+ years. thats also with big front/rear aero and 225 or 245 tires. Also ha
    3 points
  17. That’s why we also need free adjustable shocks, free coil overs, free control arms, free tubular trailing arms and subframes. All for safety of course, because we are racers and we aren’t going to spend points on safety/durability items.
    3 points
  18. Hubs are a safety concern and get a point reduction, mid-season, no announcement yet a skid plate petition gets denied because its too hard to determine the difference in a skid plate and a splitter? Y'all didn't care when I lost my poop about mid-season unannounced changes to aero values... Doesn't feel good, I hope you understand my position more now (No names, you know who you are)
    3 points
  19. Indy just called, you are now required to buy all miata hubs from the track when you get there.
    3 points
  20. I came here to make this point! There wouldn't be a hub issue if the treadwear rating on the tires was a real thing as opposed to the tire manufacturers making numbers up to get in to these series. Too much free aero, too much free brakes, too much free power, too much going over the curbing, too much free suspension simply leads to the necessity of all but free hubs. Free accusumps are next because of the oil starvation due to increased corner speed. Why, on earth, are hubs not listed in the rules if the decision was made four months ago?
    3 points
  21. Maybe make aero and fat wheels and tires more points? Or make hubs more points and make people choose between hubs and aero? If you have failing hubs and large aero and fat tires, then you are responsible for building a safe car and you have not....
    3 points
  22. In case any of you that are pushing for free accusumps and oil coolers missed it, Jay has outlined the path to (almost) free parts. 1) Ignore the issue (don’t install accusump / oil cooler in your super low VPI car which needs one) 2) Cause safety hazards by blowing up a few engines and oiling down the track 3) Jay will lower the points because you are clearly not interested in eliminating the safety problem if it means adding points
    3 points
  23. Same argument as free heat exchangers... Now that I have more cooling capacity, I can more safely run the engine lean for more power/better fuel consumption... Now that I have more robust hubs that I am not worried about failing, I can run wider tires, more effective aero, hit all the kerbs... ... Wait, wait... I meant its for Safety! yea, def for safety and NOT to do with going faster AT ALL! How dare you accuse otherwise!
    2 points
  24. Trying to figure out how to pack my west coast sampler selection in my suitcase (yes, I have to check it with this cargo).
    2 points
  25. So you're saying you didn't need free points on a set of compenents to change hubs preventively??? It's almost like your team took upon itself to change parts before they become a safety issue, instead of getting a rule written to allow for a free upgrade. Even worse, your point here makes it obvious the rule was changed to make one or a handful of folks happy, since multiple Miata campaginers are right here telling us it's a non-safety related issue, and a relatively low cost consumable. @National Tech is telling us we need the rule because of the clear and present
    2 points
  26. No, you didn't read that correctly. @wvumtnbkr had the correct information when he posted that a TAC member (me) that sells hubs did not know of the reduction in points from 10 to 2.5 until reading it here. In fact I posted early on in this thread that aftermarket hubs are 10 points each. To further set the record straight: The miatahubs.com are not made, nor sold by anyone on the TAC/BOD. The builder is a former Champcar supporter who now primarily runs his cars in other series, but he occasionally drives for Champ teams. I myself have advertised and sold
    2 points
  27. I had a race winning chumpcar that had 0 fuses, 0 relays, and only one switch (kill switch) and one button (starter). I never had an electrical issue with it.
    2 points
  28. Something tells me that the 2.5 points/hub value was arrived at to keep the complaining team's car under 500 points.
    2 points
  29. Probably the same place we are....Rock Auto. They haven't seemed to fail any quicker than the fancy "blue printed" ones from Flying Miata, which I am assuming you are running? Also, it tends to be the bearings that get loose anyways, not the whole hub catastrophically failing that we have seen.
    2 points
  30. I don't think it's a big deal, I ofcourse welcome it Race fees and rebuilding an engine (to OEM spec) are still the big $$$$$$. I couldn't find the 2.5 pts in the BCCR? Was this communicated elsewhere?
    2 points
  31. My poorly designed crankshaft causes oil feed problems to my #2 con. rod bearing which in turn causes engine failure and oiled tracks. I have to run an oil cooler and crankshaft scrapper to make the bearings last 1/2 a race season. So for strictly safety purposes I should only be charged 2.5 points also.
    2 points
  32. We have the Chillout system in our car, we used it at the WGI race. It worked great for us. There is a version 2.0 coming out now that improves its efficiency and lowers the amp draw. They are sending us this new unit this week so we will have it for Indy. They said they will be selling their “refurbished” V1 units updated to V2 specs at a reduced price. The customer service has been fantastic. Also, I will have a fuel drum dolly at Indy if anyone wants to borrow it. Garage A9 Visceral Racing Group#918 Ron
    2 points
  33. Yes but you have to buy the Tequila from the track.
    2 points
  34. So my rear hubs are now 5 points instead of 20, and my redrilled fronts are now free. Another 35 point reduction. My 499 point car in 2015 is now 276 points and soon will be free!
    2 points
  35. At 10 pts total for hubs, I think the MR2 is due for a VPI increase...
    2 points
  36. Don’t listen to them. It will be mass confusion.
    1 point
  37. I think whether you spend a lot on great hubs that last forever or cheap ones that need to be treated as disposables, you get the same result: hubs that don't fail. One option comes with points, the other comes with more labor.
    1 point
  38. I believe people are changing/maintaining their hubs so that they don't have a failure mid-race and have to change hubs or retire early from a race. Sounds like the reason is more so they have better performance/race results....not because of safety.
    1 point
  39. We've used the first day of a two day race as a test and tune. Many a team suddenly has a test and tune kind of day.
    1 point
  40. Throwing this out on the market again as I'm just not using it. Not in a pressure to sell, but this thing should get used and abused more! ANYWAYS! Bought this thing, caged and log-booked, on this forum a few years back to take my father out racing. Originally a 318is chassis, it has had a few engines previously, but was running a non-vanos M50 while I campaigned it. I was planning on running the car for this year, and have started preparing, but haven't made any events. The car runs, drives, scoots, is log-booked, and needs a minimal amount of work to be race-ready!!! Was runni
    1 point
  41. noted, and corrected the post. Thanks for the quick clarification and sorry for the misread.
    1 point
  42. Were headed down Thursday morning. We will be enjoying our patio overlooking IMS from our rental house! As on of our team members said "This is really happening!" LOL!
    1 point
  43. It’s made for a steel drum but I think it will work for a plastic barrel.
    1 point
  44. How is a knuckle not a "suspension component"?
    1 point
  45. Are the billet aluminum hubs from willwood heavier? Are titanium hubs heavier. Your builds include mostly parts from the pick and pull. (It’s awesome and how it should be). Every other team does not do it like you do. I’m pulling for you and every other spirit of grassroots team at Indy for sure.
    1 point
  46. My fat with belly rolls is all natural....too natural.
    1 point
  47. I'm part of a team already, but that is tempting! For anybody who has been living under a rock and don't know who this team is.... The most winningest team in all of champcar. Super team, okay car (haha). Great people!
    1 point
  48. My whole engine feels pretty unsafe, one with more cylinders would definitely prevent other drivers from having to deal with an oil slick on the track...
    1 point
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