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  1. I think we should just close up all the loopholes and stuff that isn't universal across all makes and models. No special interpretations, no re-using this or that, just a value for the car and a list of stuff that costs points. Anything not on the list gets assigned a value and applies to every use of that part. The fact that there is a debate about being able to run 2 exhaust cams or the way better exhaust manifolds off a different car for free is what is wrong with this series. Way too many rule lawyers and interpretations. If you don't have the two cams the engine came with inside the engine activating the valves they are supposed to activate, its a cam change and it costs points. Should be that way for every car and you shouldn't have to do a bunch of detective work to figure out what special version of the rule book is being cleverly interpreted by the other teams. How many point value parts have been allowed for free or reduced points for a certain team, car, situation? I think it's time to get all the skeletons out of the closet. Maybe it's just me though.
    12 points
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    2 points
  4. Please point out the rule which states this.
    2 points
  5. Quoting again so y'all can read it again! #like #senditwithoemoritspoints
    2 points
  6. I stitch welded my rally car after seeing a few too many cars with torn off subframe mounts and detached strut towers. The shock loading fatigues the spot welds to the point of failure. Focused on towers and areads between roll cage and subframe pickup points where they weren't directly tied together.
    2 points
  7. Man that's so confusing . Can you clarify ? Please explain further . Is the ambient temperature considered ? How far above sea level is the weight standard made ? What if the backside is painted ? How about if its heavier ? Where else would you think flywheel and exaust manifolds should be discussed in the what tire size thread ?
    2 points
  8. Uh no, that's been pretty clearly defined. If you replace something on the car, by paying points or otherwise, the old part is Not eligible as repurposed material. Even though I'm reasonably certain you're joking, that's a rumor that needs quashed.
    2 points
  9. There seems to be a couple of folks on here that just cannot help themselves from spreading misinformation and down right lies with every post . If it is not on the fpv list anything non stock has always needed to be claimed for point add . The fact that some ran things and never claimed them , cheated, in no way means the parts were allowed please stop spreading false information , please. When we have multiple requests for point evaluations on a part a value will be assigned. When the question about aluminum - lightweight flywheels was asked they were not allowed by the rules at that time . Multiple request came in a value was assigned is that not how it should be ? If you do decide to run a lightened flywheel please no tampering with a stock piece buy an SFI rated one and run a stock type size clutch system . For those that think we will not take a look , you might , will, get a suprise .
    2 points
  10. Finally our mighty 1.6 miata is getting a 1.8. Also nearly done designing splitter V2. Getting excited for NCM!
    2 points
  11. Replacement means you by a lightweight fly wheel not lighten a oem flywheel.
    1 point
  12. The people who are asking the questions, including me, aren't asking about nebulous spirit perception, we're asking about rules and point values. Kind of important to know whether I'll be racing on the same lap or not because I didn't get the memo or wasn't at the right meeting. And no, I don't want to show up 30 points over and have a tech guy cut me a break and either ignore stuff or devalue it.
    1 point
  13. Makes me curious how this is treated in tech. Clearly we need to be able to make repairs, but hopefully a fully stitched car will receive some points to go with it.
    1 point
  14. The issue for me is that I can't stand behind you during that five minute conversation amd listen to what you talk about. All I have to go by is what you and other people decide to share from what they hear and see at the track. I like to think that I should somehow know what to expect before I get in the tech line. I don't think that's unreasonable. Someday maybe I and thousands of prospective entry fee payers can join the "Real Racers" club by being at the track to hear all the insider talk, but until then we'll have to depend on coming here to get information.
    1 point
  15. That's quite familiar, but I remember it from another club. The tech desk clearly has some early bugs, but I applaud the concept.
    1 point
  16. If you've seen the difference in castings it's probably worth it. Big visual difference.
    1 point
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    1 point
  18. FWIW the single mass flywheel I purchased for my E36 weighed the same as the stock DMF. Surprised me at first, but upon further consideration, it has all the same relevant dimensions, so it makes sense. I'm talking about a mass-market stock replacement part (like a Valeo or Luk, I don't remember the brand) not a racing/performace "upgrade" part. It's just a big cast iron disc the same size as the over-complicated stock piece.
    1 point
  19. Thanks there brother , I'm good, just maybe been to long away from the track. You know thats where you will find real racers , like yourself , that enjoy the competition and appreciate what we do . Far from the misleading deceptions some continuously put on here confusing others that visit here for information . There is no rule set that can 100% guarantee complete compliance no matter how many pages they hold . Thanks again see you at the track along with 1,000s of other racers enjoying the best searies going.
    1 point
  20. Ray, have a beer brother, I think there is a racer under your skin. You are doing what you can, the new system is helping. It’s like the rest of the world, it just isn’t perfect. And the part that isn’t perfect is probably Bill’s fault not yours.
    1 point
  21. Depends if its a replacement flywheel(10pts) or additional flywheel(free).
    1 point
  22. How the hell did a post about spec miata shocks turn into a pissing match about flywheels?
    1 point
  23. Says you. Nothing in the rules that says I can't continue using pieces/parts that I have replaced, is there? Except for stuff that maybe has 'swap' in the sentence. But even that is debatable. If I pay points for a non-OE radiator, I reserve the right to use my original radiator for anything else I want to do with it, like maybe turn it into an engine oil cooler.
    1 point
  24. Can’t you guys pay a little more attention to word choice when writing these new rulings? Half the confusion is coming from the new rulings that are supposed to clarify things. Avoid subjective words like “lightweight”. Does lightweight mean under 15 lbs? More than 5 lbs lighter than stock? Any weight less than stock? Avoid overly specifying. Why say “lighter than stock aluminum flywheel” when you could say “lighter than stock flywheel”? The material is irrelevant, the relevant part is the weight reduction and reduced moment of inertia. If you want a proofreader just send me an email or message here, I’ve done some technical writing in my days and I would love to help.
    1 point
  25. That is absolutely OK if you don’t put another hood on the car. You can’t run two OE hoods (one of which is now side skirts) without paying points for one of them.
    1 point
  26. If you simply switched the intake and exhaust cam, then I agree that's a nothing. But running two exhaust cams...I think that's a something.
    1 point
  27. Taken to the extreme, that logic would allow you to build a two engine four wheel drive monster for little or no points.
    1 point
  28. This is sooooo easy, if it’s not an OEM flywheel its 10 points.
    1 point
  29. Pretty sure a single mass flywheel weighs less than a dual mass flywheel so should qualify as a lightweight replacement. Quantify lightweight ("10% less" , "5 lbs less", etc) and we'll have an answer.
    1 point
  30. One would think lighter than the stock one would be lightweight. Maybe just a few words would make that clear.
    1 point
  31. Is your point the cam can be used like "re-purposed material" since it was original to the car, just not satisfying the same function? I think the "old" rules would agree with you, but the new rules with things falling under the FPV system step on that creativity.
    1 point
  32. The ruling seems ambiguous presently: "Non-OEM steel replacement flywheels are free Non-OEM Aluminum or lightweight replacement flywheels are 10 points" It's not defined what makes a non-OEM steel flywheel, "lightweight" and 10 points, or "not-lightweight" and free. Despite its abs of steel, my flywheel has body image issues and does not identify as lightweight.
    1 point
  33. It's not just about peak power. IIRC the 2.8 has quite a bit more power under the curve, and more torque, so it'll pull harder across the rev range, not just at the peak.
    1 point
  34. Lock all the exhaust valves open for a free flowing system. Less restriction that way.
    1 point
  35. If you take the exhaust cam and install it on the intake side, what will actuate your exhaust valves? Are you taking the intake cam and putting it in the exhaust side?
    1 point
  36. "Aluminum or lightweight replacement flywheels are 10 points." ie. this is lightweight replacement steel and 10pts: Why tech words in the most confusing way possible after asking for "clarification" is beyond me. Also it will never be checked or protested so it's all a smoot point.
    1 point
  37. Here's my perspective: I'm building an E46. I have two powertrains on the floor right now, one is a M52tuB28 (500 pts), the other is a M54B25 (475 pts). The 2.5 liter has just enough points for a header, but my thought has been that the extra 300 cc's are more valuable to me. That thinking changed when I found out stock type manifolds are valued less than 25 pts. Now the 325 might have a few points to spare after easily dealing with the cats. I'd love to have the E36 manifolds for free, but as much as I harp on no free stuff (particularly manifolds) it would be hypocritical not to speak up.
    1 point
  38. We have been bench racing the idea of running a automatic trans in a 350z. I think it can be done but, the development time will involve some failures more than likely. I'm hoping to find someone else who can give us a blueprint to follow.
    1 point
  39. not sure but I'd like to use Vortex heads
    1 point
  40. I would just use an example model since the answer should apply to all. Not sure why Tech wants to do more work by making all questions/answers model specific. (answering the same question for multiple makes/models)
    1 point
  41. Is there somewhere else I should be asking for clarifications/interpretations for the BCCR that are not model specific? I’ve been asked what model car I have or am swapping to for multiple requests but those are dependent on the answers given. Example: Asking whether the clutch and flywheel are included with a swapped engine even though it doesn’t specifically state this in the BCCR. Do I just need to hold onto these until petition time or do I just make up models? I’d prefer a model unspecific response to multiple questions which would dictate how I build my car in the future.
    1 point
  42. And apparently everything isn't true or false. Is the exhaust manifold the same as the factory spec manifold on the engine being claimed? True = 0 points False = 2 points (since it's the same material as the OE manifold)
    0 points
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