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  1. 39 points
    I think your question is legitimate. ChumpCar has existed for quite a while and has changed much since it's inception. While some of that change can be directly traced to me since I have taken over, I have been around since the beginning and have seen it all. Let's be honest - ChumpCar was founded by a guy who was liking what he saw in the 24 Hours of Lemons and started his own version of it. $500 junkers and track time were the core of the endurance world back then. The problem was that the world had a "Lemons" experience already and they didn't need or want another one. Lemons does what they do well. People who didn't fit it with the Lemons business model were looking for something a little more racey and polished (cars that is). ChumpCar quickly became that place. Along the way our tracks filled up with BMW's and Miata's. To this day, these are the two most common cars on any track in any club. Why? They are good and they are cheap. Building a winning race car is difficult for a pro, almost impossible for an amateur. One way to make it easier is to start with a factory car that is good at racing. There is no shame in picking up a clean used E36, paying a guy to put a good cage in it and then go racing. It is better that a new team joins our sport that way than give up trying to build or track a random car their neighbor gave them. It's really no different than Samsung and Apple dominating the cell phone market. There are plenty of other choices in smart phones out there but almost everyone out there buys a Samsung or Apple. Why? They work well and the aftermarket supports them. While BMW's and Miata's make up much of our fields, there is still plenty of variety on track and on the podium. Take a look at a few of our recent podiums: Sebring: 1 - Lexus SC300 2 - Porsche 944 3 - Mitsubishi 3000GT 4 - Toyota Supra Buttonwillow: 1 - Miata 2 - E36 3 - Miata Gingerman: 1 - E36 (318i) 2 - Neon 3 - Civic I for one like the variety and the close finishes. One lap separated 3rd from 1st at Gingerman. One might argue that all or most of the cars listed are expensive to acquire and this is evidence that we have lost our roots. But what should they be driving? Is there a list of cars that are acceptable for budget racing? In the end wouldn't every team want to build the car that gave them the best chance of winning a race or that they can buy the cheapest or enjoy the most? Ultimately people will choose from what is available in their part of the country. This selection varies. While Datsun's are popular out West, you almost never see them East of the Mississippi. Bad car choice? No, they just rusted away years ago with the salt and humidity out here. But I digress... The cars have gotten nicer, cleaner and faster since 2009. Some of this is due to the fact that we don't require cars to cost $500 anymore. So whereas in the past you had to find and race a $500 E36, now you can buy a $3600 E36 and race that. Some would say this is a problem, that we have abandoned the little guy and made racing too expensive. I do not. First of all, racing is expensive no matter how you slice it. Race for a season or two and the cost of travel and consumables will soon out weigh the cost of the initial car purchase. Many would argue that starting with a cleaner platform will save you money in the long run anyway with less worn out parts to replace. Second, I have heard the argument that a nice looking car is too expensive and ruining our sport. Paint and vinyl has nothing to do with how fast a car goes. Appearance is optional. If a team doesn't mind their car looking like it lost a fight with a tree, so be it. But others enjoy the chance to recreate an old livery they they saw on TV as a kid, or just enjoying the look of their shiny race car. You asked where are we going and I feel like I'm preaching. I will tell you what concepts are in my head and that I check every idea against daily. 1. ChumpCar is committed to keeping road course endurance racing accessible to the average Joe. 2. We are committed to keeping every driver safe on track and on pit road. 3. We are committed to keeping the costs of racing as low as reasonably possible. 4. We are committed to giving all our members a voice and actively seeking your input. 5. We are committed to the growth and success of this member owned club so that there will always be a place for average Joe's to come race. 6. We are committed to the fair treatment of all members with no regard given to how much money one has or who they know. 7. We are committed to providing a professional experience for every member at the event. 8. We are committed to giving our members as much track time as possible. What does all this lead to? We are adding more cars to our list of acceptable vehicles. Newer models that in some cases are all the way up to current generation models. We are constantly analyzing vehicle values to ensure as much parity as possible on track that leads to more close finishes like we've had. We are looking at ways to improve driver safety and communication on track through technology and policies. We are adding and stabilizing good dates at great tracks that work with your schedule and budget giving you the best places to race in North America. We are adding staff to the organization that believe in these policies and uphold them consistently coast to coast. We are using new and existing methods or communication to reach new racers that just don't know they are racers yet and grow our family of members. We are and will continue to make changes that provide a better experience for our members up to and including our new name which will be announced in November of this year. In the end, I'm not oblivious of the fact that we will not be the club that everyone wants to be a part of. Some people have different goals and are looking to get something else out of their racing. We can't be everything to everyone. But we have a set of rules that I and many others believe in and we will hone our rough edges and practice what we do until we are perfect at it. Along the way we will give thousands of average Joe's a chance to do what they never thought possible - race on world class tracks wheel to wheel with other average Joe's.
  2. 23 points
    ...and aside from the Tuttle debacle; there was a great Champcar race, with great teams! Team Jacky Ickx had a very eventfull race weekend (end of week),... as usual! To be allowed to keep racing. I had to start a new business/job! So, I ended up having to work the last week before Christmas, eventhough my wife had already scheduled our vacation in Mexico for that time. We moved our vacation, but I was going to do a "Tom Cruise", fly back at the last minute before the race, and have my team bring the cars to the track without me. I left Cancun at 10:30 am on Thursday, and got to the track before the race cars. Once they were finally in tech line, we found out Mark was not coming! Mark (evilwheel), our fastest driver on the team, had been battling the flu for the last couple of days. He had not missed a race in the last 49 endurance races with the team! On race day, one of the first radio communication was: "Lots of fast cars today!"; we were in 14th & 15th. Around 9:35, a red Porsche was sideways coming out of 16, Keith thought he saved it, he didn't! He hit us hard in the left rear sending the right rear in the wall. It turned out the Porsche driver also thought he had saved the car, they talked, we are OK. Keith came in the pits with a bent race car, flat tire, and an empty tank. We changed a wheel, filled the tank, and I jumped in (litteraly because the door doesn't open). The car felt like a crab in a straight, was turning left reasonably well, didn't want to turn smoothly to the right, and wanted to throw me off track under braking! It was vibrating so bad I had a death grip on the steering wheel causing me cramps! And we never took the time to hook my cool shirt, I'll let you guess where the hoses and connectors ended up... I guess I got used to the new handling characteristics of the car, and turned decent consistent laps. After the initial shock on how bad the car felt, Clark and Brian did the same. Unfortunately Keith had to retire the GT30 after loosing power. It sounds like only 5 cylinders are doing their job. It may sound like a normal occurence for a Mitsubishi engine to expire, but it has not been our experience. We can't even remember how old the bottom end of our engine is! But the 935 kept on "crabbing away"! I went back in for my second stint, the car was still evil to drive, but somehow it didn't feel as bad, and I had so much fun behind the wheel! Thanks to the BMW #411, and a mysterious red Miata with a white stripe on the hood. At first I thought it was an orange Eclipse catching me, but when I realized it was a Miata, I thought Randy was at the wheel! I had to make sure I was a mile ahead of him going in a corner for him not to catch me! It was so much fun, and thanks to all teams for clean driving, and giving plenty room to podium cars by the end of the race! Then we put Chris in the car for the final stint, he had been wanting to finish a race! With 1 hour 40 left, he's 2 laps behind the Tuttle car who still has to make a pit stop! He's turning 38's 39's, and tells us he feels he can do 36's. Clark tells him to remain consistent, wait for the 108 to pit, and he would let him know when it's time to push. Tuttle waited in vain for a FCY, tried to open the gap, but finally pitted with less than 30 minutes to go. I was pitting next to them, so I can tell they took gas, but their pit stop looked a little short... (and we usually get corrected if we have so many people over the wall during fueling!). Anyway, they come out 15 seconds in front of us! Next lap, Chris does a 37, he's 11 seconds behind; then a 36 (as he called it), he's 4 seconds behind, then he's on his bumper, by the next lap he's in front of him, and keeps on leaving him; but then the 108 stopped on track... (the rest has been debated on past posts) We are happy to have passed them under racing conditions (kuddos to Chris's beautifull stint), and that we didn't get the win because of a DQ! I'm completely blown away my team won Sebring again. Other that being the track geographically the closed to our homes, and having done all the Chumpcar races at Sebring, I don't understand why this "home track advantage" works so well!? Thanks to my wife, my team, the Champcar staff, and (almost) all teams for an incredible way to finish 2017! A special thank you to Elon's team/family/friends for a great hospitability!
  3. 22 points
    One of our drivers, @Choray911 is a Nissan guy. He walked by their car on Thursday and was like "Nice. A VQ35." They were like, "No. It's a VQ30. See the valve cover." He was like, "Nope, it's definitely a VQ35. See the variable valve timing? That's a later model Altima intake. *other random Nissan stuff*". They were like, "Nope. Definitely a VQ30." We had a pretty crappy day with the Mustang. We were praying they would make it to impound so that we could protest them. We notified Chumpcar officials that it was coming. Showed them how a VQ35 is obviously not a VQ30. I guess they talked to the team and the team decided to take the DQ for the wrong VQ.
  4. 21 points
    I would say that the plan would be quite simple: a trip to the local Pick 'n Pull. To elaborate: there is no need to grandfather something as cheap and easy as putting an unmodified stock tank back in the stock location. Far more extensive and expensive work has been mandated with other rulings with no plan to help the affected teams "be legal". Engines have been unswapped, turbos removed, etc, with no consideration or compensation so I see no need for a plan for something that takes an afternoon and $50 to rectify.
  5. 21 points
  6. 20 points
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  8. 20 points
    Good conversation here and I enjoy hearing the feedback. I have stewarded over 75 ChumpCar events in the past seven years so I have a little bit of data to pull from. I remember the random green on track. I hated it. It was the opposite of racing, and it didn't take long for people to start bunching the fields to try to pick up the green. Dangerous and awkward. There was also the issue with people running at 100% on the pre race caution laps. This brought about the first use of the pace car. But there was an unmentioned issue that perhaps only I saw as the steward - people were not ready to go at the scheduled start time. I hate being late, ask my wife. So I had the idea that we would offer an incentive to be on time. If you would have your driver belted in and your engine running ready to hit the track on time, you could start on the pole behind the pace car. In the beginning, only a few were ready. These were the teams, and still are, who finish at the front. They prepare for the race and take it seriously. As the years went by and we grew, the number of cars in a race went from 30 to 100. More prepared teams were looking for that slight advantage of starting out front. Then, as usual this happens: To those who run perhaps one or two races per year, you may not have seen this. I did. A lot. And it was getting worse. Guys were skipping the drivers meeting to grid their car. Fights were breaking out out on pit road over position. WGI 17 was a highly publicized moment, but was not the first incident and it wouldn't be the last. That Sebring incident with Jimmie? It made it back to me and they were held back. There were words exchanged over that. I don't like to start my day that way. So the random advantage the top teams had by gridding early did exist, but it was becoming dangerous and unmanageable. Many of you came to me asking for something safer. In the end, what we tried at Gingerman, Buttonwillow and Sebring was not my idea, but one of yours. I said I would give it a shot and decide how it worked. In all three instances, it was easy, smooth and orderly. People were not rushing out of the drivers meeting. There were no tools carried up and down pit road, and cars were still ready to go when the pace car left. I like what I see and many of you have told me the same thing. As we have been working hard to standardize the ChumpCar experience from coast to coast, things like this are being written into our new operations manual. Going forward, all staff at all events will be able to reference procedures like this to manage the start of an event. It's not written into our BCCR because there are times we may want to try something fun like qualifying at the National Championship (not saying this is a thing, just using it as an example) and we need to have the flexibility. If we do plan on trying something different at a race, the event director will announce it ahead of time. Some of you have expressed concerns about accidents happening with fast cars at the back. Understand that the fast cars will always be moving through traffic. Whether they have to do it on lap one or lap four doesn't really matter. They still have to plan and execute clean passes all the time as they race for the lead. And for the new driver who is terrified about being in the middle of all the racing on their first lap, they are still welcome to waive off their grid spot and start at the back of the field. We had a large number of cars do this at Sebring last weekend. Don't get me wrong, with the incredibly close finishes we have in ChumpCar I know that where you start can have an impact on the finish. The problem is that qualifying is the only way to address that issue and it is not within our reach. An extra day of racing would not only cost you an extra $500+ in entry fees, but impact your travel dates and costs as well. My staff would run out of vacation days from their real jobs and we still haven't even addressed how we would grid 120 cars on Saturday morning at Daytona. There are limits to what can be done with the time and money we have to work with, so there are times that random will have an impact on the outcome of the race. But I can remember only one race where the 1st and 2nd place car were gridded in 1-2 as well. Had their grid positions been swapped, would they have finished differently? We'll never know. Keep feeding me your ideas and thoughts. My goal is to make this sport as enjoyable and safe for you as possible. We may all be amateurs, but we can make this as professional of an experience that you will find anywhere.
  9. 19 points
  10. 18 points
    John Allen Special race report This was a race we didn’t have on our schedule to do early in the year. We had pretty much written off coming back here after trying 3 times and never having any decent result with a blown motor in 2013, totaled car in 2015, and wreck in 2016. We came into the race just wanting to get drivers cycled through that had never raced here, including one that was originally from Sebring. We started well down in the order in 39th place and started just clicking off laps with Rich in the car. About an hour in he called in and said he was getting tired, so we suited up and got ready. He came in after 1 hour and 15 minutes. Andrew then got in and seemed to immediately get in the groove laying down consistent 2:47’s for not knowing the track other than gaming. About 1:30 into his stint he called and said the fuel light was staying on which meant that we weren’t going to make it a full 2 hours like we do everywhere else. This would ultimately be an issue all day most likely due to the air temp. Andrew then turned over to Justin with the car in 14th place. Justin would go out and lay down some very nice times averaging 2:45 with a FTD of 2:42.6 and would also set the tone on where we were starting to line up finish wise bringing the car into the pits in 9th place . Next up was Rodney, who hasn’t had a whole lot time in the e30’s to get real acquainted with them. All we wanted was for him to just turn laps and keep the car on track. He would bring the car back in after his full stint in 9th place. We were starting to get antsy on race strategy, something we weren’t necessarily accustomed to. We couldn’t make the rest of the race on 1 more driver change so we put Rich back in to try and go an hour again and maybe catch a FCY. Rich turned some more decent laps and brought the car in in 11th place. Andrew would get back in with about 1:30 left in the race. It was his job to just bring the car home with maybe a Top 10 finish. After some miscommunication on where we were at in relation to the Inactiv guys and trying to improve his FTD he reset the team FTD with a 2:42.4 after following the #697 E36 for a few laps. He finally got word that there was no reason to push the car hard as we were stuck where we were for position. We took the checkered in 11th place overall and 3rd in class until we found out later that we garnered 10th after the DQ. In a race that the team considered a “drunken softball” weekend to come home with a 2nd in class in typically the hardest class to podium in and 8th in completion, we couldn’t have asked for anything more. This was by far the best race we’ve ever had as far as being at the pointy end of the field.
  11. 17 points
    I finally finished my engine swap, 95 Maxima VQ30 so only 55pts total, can't wait to try it out in Atlanta.
  12. 16 points
    While I love a good debate, we usually prefer to spend our time between races working on the cars and not debating past events... That said, we haven't had many opportunities to jump on the forum but figure this is a good time since a lot of the conversation is about our TWOth Autosport Civic at Sebring. While I've read a lot of great comments and concerns about the safety of ballooning fuel tanks and fine tuning the rule book, I feel a little clarification is required for our specific situation. Please allow me the opportunity to mention a few facts about the fuel tank, capacity, and circumstances around this Sebring impound. Following ChampCar's decision moving forward, we will abide by the rules as we have in the countless races we've run in the series, while continuing to focus on our car, drivers, team, and fellow competitors' safety. 1. Safety Anyone who has driven with us or looked closely at our cars can attest that we put a LOT of effort into preparation and safety, as ChampCar is only one aspect of what we do. We build clean race cars and prepare the Honda Civics the same way we would our Porsche GT3 Cups or Radicals. Our drivers come to expect this level of safety and preparation, and are surrounded by top of the line equipment. Some may find our pricing higher than other ChampCar teams, but very few will doubt the amount of thought and attention we put into the program. We work hard and take pride in our cars, which is reflective of our results and the drivers who've raced with us. 2. The "Protest" Lets call a spade a spade - not once during post-race impound was there mention of a safety concern with the fuel tank in question. The "protest" (while I believe not official, as the paperwork was not submitted nor was the $50 paid) was only debating the competitive advantage, based on a perceived amount of fuel going into the car. In fact, the "protesting" team even searched additional items that could have been modified, as the inspected tank showed less alteration than they expected. The car and fuel tank passed safety tech before it was further inspected by officials at impound and deemed safe/legal. I am not discounting the validity of people's safety concerns about altering stock gas tanks, ventilation, or capacity for expansion in an impact - I am simply stating that we felt the alteration was in fact safe, complied to the rules, and have cleared safety tech as well as impound. 3. Fuel Capacity & Jug Sizes Many people are talking about ballooned tanks, dumping massive amounts of fuel into the car. While yes, the tank has been expanded slightly for capacity benefits, the overall shape has changed very little. We have also taken advantage of the venting rule, speeding up our filling time while also reducing splash-back during fuelling. If the "protesting" team was watching as carefully as they claim, they would have seen a "Fill Here" line, clearly written with red paint marker on every single TWOth fuel jug. This is set to 5 gallons per jug (allowing room for expansion & inconsistencies), and shown well below the top of the dump can. The reason for this? 2 jugs isn't enough to completely fill the car, overfilling Huntsaker jugs results in jugs venting issues, and would splash in the golf cart when transporting from the trailer to the pit. We may as well do 3 jugs and keep them lighter. In addition to this, and as our pit stop calculations show over the past 15+ ChampCar races we've run with these jugs (times 2-3 cars), we only ever dump 2-2.5 jugs into the car at each stop. Calculating the volume, this works out to a range of 10 gal conservatively, or a max of ~13 gal if the car is completely empty. Between improved venting, filler neck and fuel line, it starts to show how little the tanks are actually altered. Yes, we can likely achieve more volume with a fuel cell, but we feel that our stock tank and location is safe. 4. $50 for 1% Based on points 1-3 for context, I was originally frustrated that a team could simply complain (without formal protest) and find out information that we have learned over a long period of time. Again, not including the safety argument (as it was an unvalidated one at the time), we have spent a lot of time, money and effort competing in ChampCar, developing systems to improve performance. Call it R&D cost. This comes from building 12+ cars, entering 2-5 cars in 10-15 races per year, and accumulating thousands of race hours, not to mention the hundreds of hours transporting to races. This is where the 1% comes in - the last bit that 99% of teams didn't notice. That race time and experience helps you find the little things. My only argument is that a "protesting" team should at least owe ChampCar officials the $50 protest fee in order to question our findings. After 10 hours, the ChampCar staff are the real heroes of the race and deserve a couple cases of beer. If I am incorrect in this, I apologize and retract this point. Either way, we'll have Canadian beer for the staff at Road Atlanta. 5. Expanding the Tanks I'll explain exactly what we do to our tanks. The information is out anyway, and I imagine most will look quite closely at the next race. I agree, you'd be foolish to alter a gas tank from a 20 year old Honda. We even felt unsafe using a stock tank from that era, as time, rust, and metal fatigue can seriously alter the safety of the tank. We purchase brand new OE replacement fuel tanks. If you've ever purchased one, you'll notice that they're usually slightly concave on the bottom - not the individual ribs, but the entire bottom of the tank. Tank mounting straps on Honda's are adjustable with a threaded bolt holding one end into the chassis. We mount the new tank loosely and clamp the filler neck. Air pressure is added to the original vent port, expanding until the bottom of the tank becomes concave. Occasionally 1 or 2 of the lower ribs flex outward, but never is the tank completely ballooned. In most cases, the metal returns back to shape, leaving very little alteration. The process takes 15-30 minutes and the tank is then properly installed and tightened. 6. Moving Forward & Road Atlanta At this point, we will await ChampCar's decision before making any alterations to our equipment. We trust the series and their BOD in making important decisions, and will follow whatever ruling they have. If that means a $1000+ investment in fuel cells for each of our cars, so be it. We love the close racing, great teams and huge field sizes. For teams curious or questioning our performance and safety, I welcome anyone in the paddock to stop by our pit at Road Atlanta. We love chatting, sharing information, looking at other people's work, and debating strategies. We all have a common goal of progressing while maintaining a safe standard, and would do much better with these conversations face to face. Unfortunately, between preparing cars, shovelling snow and watching hockey, we have lots to do with very little time before Atlanta. If anyone would like to discuss our program and car preparation, call free to call me directly at 613-371-2838. Next time, should a team feel we are competing illegally, please remember to pay your $50 and submit a formal protest before asking for further information or involving series officials. I also don't recommend packing up and leaving because rules didn't work out in your favour - it shows poor sportsmanship. Perhaps your forfeited $50 could have gone towards participation ribbons for next time. See everyone at Road Atlanta! TH
  13. 16 points
    Thanks for the positive comments and support guys. I don't mind or take comments personally it comes with being the Tech guy. I would love to make my position for Champcar my only job and hope to when I offically retire in a few years. If everyone agrees you can contribute to my retirement and I'll retire early and make that happen sooner than later. So please keep in mind when sending emails or expecting speedy responses to forum posts I'm still working a 40-50 hour week at a regular job. Until the rules are changed starting at Road Atlanta in Feb. you will see the current tech sheets posted on the windshields of the impounded cars rain or shine at all Champcar races for 2018. I will work with the registrar/s to make this happen. I will use the log books to do my post race tech as they are one and the same as far as the documentation of the VPI, value adders and TCV is concerned. If and when the rules are changed I'll change with them. Phil McKinney Director Tech & Safety
  14. 16 points
    How many hideous machines kicked his pretty little bottom?
  15. 16 points
    Big Exciting Endurance Racing BEER. This has to get some votes
  16. 15 points
    Factory tanks are engineered to withstand a significant amount of damage in a crash. The nature of incompressable fluids is that there needs to be somewhere to put the extra fuel displaced by the collision damage even when factory "full". This could be some combination of shape, the random "innie" dents and available headspace. I think poly tanks are superior in this. There are limits,We lost a local young man in a firey T-bone crash when he got hit less than 1 mile after filling up.The hit was so hard the underfloor tank was disrupted so badly it blew a seam. An "innie" dent here and there and a bit of airspace on top allows a degree of crush with a "full" without rupture as it gives a place for the displaced incompressable fuel to go to. The bladder or poly liner in the fuel cell is meant to contain the fuel even if the cell is badly dented. A factory tank that has been blown out to remove "Innie" dents and filled with all the airspace on top removed is a little like a big old white tick ready to pop. PS I'm not an engineer but I did stay in a Holiday In Express once.
  17. 15 points
    I'm not giving anyone a break. Tuttle tried to cheat & his only regret is that he got caught. This is a professional race team & they knew dam well what they were putting in their car. Seeing as how they put a Haltech on the car they literally have to select what motor is in the car from a drop down box. Plus you don't build that caliber of a car without knowing exactly what parts are going into it. It all comes down to this team with unlimited budget tried to pull the wool over our eyes. We aren't a group of podunk backwoods rednecks that only know about the chevy tree-fiddy. Well..... I'm a podunk neck, but I have a unhealthy love of Maximas as I own 3 of them. Now, some of you people have lost your ever loving minds. 1 year bans, heads on spits, bazillion dollar fine? No to all. Simply move them to EC & let them race. This is still for fun after all. I applaud Tuttles effort & ingenuity. I really tried to talk to them to see what they were running as I am in the planning stages of doing a motor swap on my turbo maxima from a vq30dek to a built vq35de. They were very coy & started giving misinformation. Don't change the motor, bring it out in EC & see how they do at Rd ATL. I would like to thank Mike & Dan for their professionalism when I brought up the discrepancy. They listened to my concerns & the self policing process worked.
  18. 15 points
    Congrats to Philippe and crew on yet another win at Sebring (ban the 3000gt-up the vpi- just saying- hehe) and I wish I was there, next year for the double is on the schedule and look forward to the battle as always. I love it when someone texts me and says- "You need to check out the forum for the Sebring race as someone is getting more heat that you." I am all over that. On this matter I want to say Champcar and officials did what it should do and what I would expect them to do and happy they did it. I have been to a lot of races and have seen a few dq's in my time and they are consistent with the rules and are fair. I do not want to see us think that they should have done more as that is not their role to police the world. This is not SCCA or NASA where we have spec cars, or ST classes with weight and hp. I would like to comment on a few things that people have said, as you know I have issues keeping my mouth shut for sure. First, I am not friends with the tuttle team or trying to defend them at all. I had them run into me at WGI on the 6th lap with them being ultra aggressive. I talked to Tuttle(I am not sure his name, but the head guy) after the race. He basically said he tells his drivers to go all out and aggressive as they are going for the win. I said I tell my guys to be conservative, wait to pass when needed, go to the end and go for the win. He looked at me and laughed. I said how times have you won, he said he got 2nd at COTA. I said hmmmmm and felt enough was said. After this race I informed my drivers to just say clear of them and watch out for them as they drive this way. On blaming tech for not figuring it out early. There is no way tech could do that. They have maybe 300-500 teams overall with cars to look at in a year. Think about all the different makes and models and differences and really there is no way for them to know what swap it is. I know Toyota V6's and MR2's, the BMW guys know BMW engines, ect. Tech can not know unless two things, someone tells them, which is seems like it happened here, or that person is very familiar with that specific make and model, so a 1 in 100 chance there. When a team goes through tech tech is really looking for a few things and what is really important to them. The main focus is safety, which is should be. Phil and Dan is a safety Nazi's and I am glad for it to keep us safe. They check belts, cage, ect. The 2nd is to make sure paperwork is in order. It is the teams responsibility to list all things that they have done or put on the car per the rules. As far as not going through tech due to time or whatever, that is not a valid excuse. I have gone through tech 3 or 4 times this year alone. The first annual when I did the first tech. I then added Schroth enduro belts as an upgrade (the belts are amazing btw) and went through again just for that. I assumed I needed to go back through due to a safety item and better to have someone else look to make sure I put my loops correct and it all good. I waited until later when the line was done and brought it in and took 5 minutes. Another was when I changed my fuel system at Barber as I changed to an external fuel pump and hydramat instead of internal. It did nothing to my points or anything, but considered it a component change and having another set of experienced eyes on my fuel setup is not a bad idea. I also when through once as I added some plastic bits, 3 points, to make sure I claim every single thing on my car. The point here is it does not take much time at all to go back through tech. Saying that though, at WGI it was hours of waiting to do the first annual tech and early races are long, but that is something we all have to do. On the punishment. They got DQ'ed, which they should have as per the rules. If all that is said on the posts here is true then they got the DQ as justified. The rules do not state we should ban them for a race or life, or suspend them. The rules, Champcar officials and the racers like all of us found out and did what was appropriate. There have been many teams that have cheated in the past, found out and dealt with and here are some examples. McQueen is one with a laundry list of cheaty items and they changed it back to be legal and continued to race. I would say that what they did was on par or worse that Tuttle. I also remember a BMW with an ecu being chipped in the past for day 1 of an event and they got the dq, put in a stock chip day two and raced. Another is Blitzvin and he got called out and changed his car around to suit. Sure, the infraction here is very bad with a very cheaty engine and trying to disguise it. Now that we all know he used a super cheaty engine most teams will be over the car with a fine tooth comb. The nissan guys have come out and said the why and how it is cheaty and I bet we can count on them for the future. Looking at the past I see a couple of outcomes. McQueen went much slower and did not dominate as they have so they left, but they still did race after. Blizvin changed his car back to slower and has not done well and I have not seen them in a while, but he still raced after. The sway bar omission at AMP they said they will never come back and quit themselves and put their car up for sale, I think that is a bad knee jerk reaction, but it is what it is. The BMW ecu chip deal, they go dq and raced the next day. I guess we will see what happens this time. Long term I see these possibility. 1- They quit the series due to shame. 2- They come back as is and run EC. 3- They come back and put in the proper engine and run. Everyone looks over the car and makes sure it is legit. 4- They come back for a race with scenario 3 and do not have fun at all because of shame and leave. I would also like to hear from them and see what they say and their side, mainly for my curiosity of what they would say and my own popcorn watching entertainment.
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    January of this year 2017, a coworker of mine and I ran across some YouTube video's of Champ Car. We both had racing experience, him off road and myself late model oval. We got to studying building a car for Champ. After some thought we decided on the Miata. In March I was able to locate a 90 model sitting beside a house with grass and weeds covering it. After talking to the owner I was able to buy it real cheap because it did not run. A 45 dollar timing belt later I had it running. Thus began the hard work to put together a race car. With a limited budget we decided to leave the car completely stock and concentrate on the safety aspect of the car. The next several months consisted of putting in the cage, seat, fire system and just making the car legal per the rule book. After almost a year we had what we felt was a safe race car. The only performance items we added were a radiator, shocks and springs. Our intentions were to run Barber and pray the drive train and motor would last long enough for us all to get some track time. The best thing about this whole deal was the fact that my 19 year old son spent a lot of time with his ole man working on this project. For that to me was the best part of this whole deal. As a teen myself, my dad spent a tremendous amount of time with me working on old cars, I still have and drive often a 66 Pontiac we rebuilt from the ground up. He passed away in 2003 leaving me with memories I intend to recreate with my son. This project has allowed me to spend quality time with my son and pass down lessons learned from Dad. Anyway, we finally made the 60 mile drive down to Barber in December with the car and camper in tow. Fully expecting to maybe run the first day, load up a broke race car and head home. After two days at the track, we completed 347 laps and just over 825 miles. The car was probably the slowest out there but it made the whole two days and was able to see the checkered flag both days. For two EMS helicopter pilots and an 19 yo college student who had never done any kind of road racing, I think we did pretty good. I guess the whole deal is the best 2017 memory, from the excitement of racing at Barber to the enjoyment of spending time with good friends and my son. We are now looking forward to 2018 and making the car more competitive. Because of the limited budget we hope to try NCM in Kentucky and of coarse running Barber again. A special thanks to the entire Champ Car staff and all the racers that made us feel welcome at our first race. What a Memory!!!!!!!
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    I like the 5 min stop limit. It's safer and needs to stay in my opinion
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    Note to self...Do not drive quickly over a blind hill on a pace lap.
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    All I was trying to address was slotting your strut tower to accomplish the same thing as using a CC plate that added points. You can use a grinder, dremel tool, or other hand tools and we will not add points. Yes you can cut your springs. Slot your strut towers to get all the camber you want but add a plate and it adds points. Final answer. Phil McKinney Director Tech & Safety
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    Not necessarily. I see the meeting going like this- ___________________________________________________________________________ Bill: Let's hollow out bolts to make them lighter. MR2 team #2: I assume the fastener was designed correctly for the application and should not be weakened or it could cause reliability issues. If the manufacture thought they could use a smaller bolt to save weight they probably would have. Bill: But if we make our cars less reliable than stock, we can request a point reduction of 150 points based on us making the car unreliable. All MR2 teams: GREAT IDEA BILL!!!! Agenda for next meeting- How to lighten hubs with 1/8" drill bit. ____________________________________________________________________________
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    Good racing. My father and I did our whole race, so each of us drove 50%. I would hate to see anyone dis-invite Randy. He is the ultimate good-guy. I showed that the MR2 was too fast over a year ago. Before the VPI adjustment. Chumpcar didn't listen. I showed it again to Mike and he listened politely and interested but it did not change. It's his show to run. I also had to petition to NB miata down from 700 points. Now it's 450. The swap rules are still BROKEN. But I respect Troy's engineering. Don't blame him, fix the rules. @Doc please don't deny that@Bill Strong is staff and an insider. Bill's done a great job with the media, but there should be more impartiality.
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    This actually was P1 doing the slowing. We noticed that P1 was slowing down as soon the the pace car turned off it's lights. Trying to get a run on the green and dust the field. We're not going to play those games so the pace car slowed down to keep P1 close. In the future, if a car be it P1 or P40 does not keep up with the pace car, they will be black flagged.