LuckyKid

This, in addition to @Bill Strong's smiling face, is why we race CCES vs other alphabet soup series.

Over 50 dyno pulls with a new tuner and with our new Ballenger Motorsports Wideband. Wowza! Excited for Road America!

@Bill Strong Can we get links to the 2020 Swap and Tech sheets?

You're already loaded up? You are already way ahead in the race.

Can we please get back to bitching about hot tires? One of my recent favorite lines I've read is "Once you solve your #1 problem, #2 gets a promotion"

Flat floor. There is too much heat under the car for a central exhaust so we made a custom side exhaust and used the quietest muffler that would fit, which happened to be a sport/street muffler. They make a short and a long version, and we have both which we changed depending on the sound limits. There is a 1hp difference at peak between the short and the long and a 1hp difference at peak between the short and no muffler. After we built them we measured out the distance and did dB testing in our cul-de-sac. We are fine at some races and others we are over. For the championshi

Can we get this determined before race start?

If they were to take dB from behind then more than half the field would be over 96dB. I am running the identical muffler on my street miata as my racecar(Its a street muffler) which is many dB quieter than the Spec Miata exhausts other teams run, but because it points out the side at the sound station, I am over dB. I am complying with the intent of the rule, but the arbitrary location of metering is the issue.

I was actually thinking that as well. It was loud AF at the dyno when I was holding intake pipes together for testing.

Terrific! I love surprises. Now do I spend a couple hundred dollars to install a second muffler or waste half of my $350 test day chasing sound again? What's a few hundred dollars when we are dropping thousands on tires that melt like butter.

Still outstanding and some more: 1. How are races scored for championship contenders and under what rules? Tie breakers? Are non-championship contenders included in the "points" for the winner-take-all championship? 2. How are races scored for non-championship contenders and under what rules? 3. Can a championship contender choose to compete in the non-championship "category". 4. How are national championship class points calculated (Mazda Contingency) 5. Are there MOV penalties for championship and non-championship winners? 6. What side of the track will sound be taken?

@Bill Strong @Jer @Chris Huggins @E. Tyler Pedersen @Doc @TAlexander Can you provide info about the rules? 1. How are races scored for championship contenders and under what rules? Tie breakers? 2. How are races scored for non-championship contenders and under what rules? 3. Can a championship contender choose to compete in the non-championship "category". 4. How are national championship class points calculated (Mazda Contingency) 5. Are there MOV penalties for championship and non-championship winners? 6. What side of the track will sound be taken? 7. Wi

I'll do a little dirt and asphalt. I've done enough off-roading in champ car that I think I have enough experience to qualify for dirt. We will see how it goes.

Also, how are the rest of the positions figured out. For instance Mazda is paying for a class win for the season. Would that be adding up total points? Or would it be just Saturday and Sunday performance?

While I've been working on our ChampCar someone else has been working on this:

Lots of teams run Falkens, Federals, and other not as fast tires. For sure teams going for a win will run the fastest tires, which would be a cooper or RS4(if the hot tire ban was in place). The idea is to control the cost to parity ratio. I think you can do that by allowing multiple tires still. 5 minutes levels the playing field. With no time limit you can easily trade dollars for time and add risk for time. The teams with paid crew would blow the amateurs out of the water.

Running through this in my head. I would reroute everything so that the driver could connect up while driving. I would change out the harnesses but they would not be nearly as well tightened or comfortable as they are now. The coolsuit would be touch and go. I would have to install a pump out fitting so we can start practicing stops. We would roll the dice on a oil, and likely tires and brakes, or at least make sure everything's brand new every race start. If there was a penalty for spilling we would get dry break everything.

Good-win-racing

You could reach out to the tire companies and ask them. Tire rack? They could also offer advice like tire pressures and whatnot. Between grassroots Motorsports and tire rack testing there's a lot of data on a lot of tires, dare I say almost all of the popular sport tires out there.

So what you are saying is that CCES already BANS TIRES, but uses an arbitrary made up rating(TW) rather than something more in tune with the actual goal of the series?!?! Interesting.

Which are the fast tires that wear fast? RE71R Rival 1.5 S A052 Kuhmo ACR. Easy. Everyone knows it. Coopers are barely out and we know roughly where the land in terms of speed(RE71R level) and wear(Better than the RE71R). Same with the new Falken (Ok speed but non-endurance worthy wear). For new tires evaluate first for performance, then for cost/wear for the following cars: E30/Miata Camaro/Mustang Altima/Maxima Focus/Neon TAC offers recommendations to Tech/BoD, Tech recommends a rule and BoD approves. Starts 2022. Hot compound = Go to EC.

If the majority believes there's a problem, that's step one. Step two is the solution. There are many ways to resolve this, it might be an intellectual challenge but it certainly possible. I personally don't believe whack-a-mole would be that difficult. How often did they come out with new tires, maybe two a year? By delaying the roll out you can resolve the issue of people having tires in stock. It's going to be real issue when some people have the discontinued tires and other don't. It's possible that Cooper may have temporarily resolved this problem

We pound the rumble strips. I used to rebuild them myself after every race now we send them to final turn motorsports. We had one fail after about a season and a half. That said we were only running the 245 RS4s not the Rivals like we do now. The trick is making sure you're getting a new casting that is the correct design, not undercut, and make sure to inspect them. That said I always make sure I have an extra hub in the pits just in case.

Do you even race? GTFO

A 50pt turbo is worse than a cam. You need Atleast a 70 point turbo likely a 95 point turbo to get use out of it, then the fuel consumption is still way worse than NA.