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Why did I read this as 'Antichrist' ? Must have been thinking of "Official Bill"

Can you tell me where you got the info saying that bottles have a 10 year life from date of manufacture (assuming recertification along the way)

That makes sense to me. I came to the same conclusion. Now, here's the rub. It an annual tech this year a tech inspector declared the fire system to be out of date and it needed to be replaced. How do I go about getting an official, final ruling on the legality of this particular system? I am not familiar with the correct process for getting an official clarification of the rules. This forum chat is informative but not official. How do I go about getting a ruling? Thanks for your guidance.

Legal or out of date?

The tech desk Article ID #70 says "A current list of SFI and FIA compliant systems can be found here" then lists a FIA document https://www.fia.com/file/112252/download/920 In that FIA document they list the "SPA Design Fire Sense Response Model" as having a homologation # "Ex. 003.98" with a beginning date of 12/98 and end date of 12/17. My question is .... Is this fire system Champcar legal because it is on the list of Champcar approved ' SFI and FIA compliant systems' or is it illegal because of the 'homologation dates' on the FIA document? I'm confused.

Can you run a surge tank with a stock gas tank for zero points? Asking for a friend.

That's how i read it also.

What if you have an aftermarket radiator already installed. Do you have to prove it is priced lower than the chain auto parts stores or the dealership?

wvumtnbkr - Thanks for offering your opinion. You post frequently and appear to know your stuff. Do you have actual first hand knowledge that your radiator interpretation is what leadership intended or is it just your opinion? Do you have any official standing or office within Champcar? Just curious. ( I don't know who all is sits on committees or boards) My opinion, is that "radiator greater than OE cost + 30 points" means 'any radiator costing more that what I'd pay at a dealer is 30 pts." The actual wording of doesn't say 'OE spec' OR 'OE Manufacturer'. Can someone tell me how I go about seeking an official answer / clarification?

Radiators ..... let go over this one more time for the slow kid in the class (me). Section 4.1-4.32 says Reading that says to me that I can use any radiator that costs less the the '$600 OE radiator', correct? Section 4.7.3 says Reading that says I can use any radiator priced equal to or less than chain auto parts store radiators. Which is it? Less than OE prices? Or less than chain auto parts store prices? Curious minds want to know.

Calling all hatchbacks with fuel cells ..... would you please post a picture of your car's fuel cell enclosure? I'm thinking about going with a fuel cell for next season and can't quite get my head around how to enclose the cell, and even more importantly, how to enclose the fuel fill tube. Your pictures would be a huge help. Thanks.

MIke Chisek for President 2020 !

Thoughts from a little guy...... 1) It's been 'entertaining' reading this 13 page (so far) thread and the various Facebook threads. Who knew that 'green font'' was even a thing? 2) Sounds like R3R was not on their best behavior this past weekend. 3) Burningham seems like a very cool guy. He's just the kind of folks I like to race with. 4) I'm guessing that everyone involved in this drama wishes they could have a 'do over'. 5) People are going to cheat. Its racing. Get over it. Learn how to race within the rules or learn how to cheat better. Your call. Its been this way since the start to of time. 6) Writing a rule book and enforcing it (with minimal resources and staffing) is a REAL hard (nearly impossible) job. Its no wonder rule books grow to hundreds of pages (SCCA, NASCAR, ) 7) We are a grass roots racing organization. This is a hobby we're all passionate about. It is not rocket surgery or life or death. 8. The organizers and board of directors are a hard working, fair minded, customer focused bunch who do their best, every day, to make it fun for all of us. 9) Champcar is on the right track. We've got a full calendar of events with good car counts at lots of great tracks. Race events run smoothly with little drama. When problems arise management uses a common sense approach to resolve the issues as opposed to a long, drawn out, officious process. (I'm looking at you SCCA, Yes, I know... I'm a 37 year SCCA member) 10. I get a kick out of rolling into the paddock with our open trailer and seeing the big rigs of Tuttle and Sahlen and the others. I think its cool that Randy Pobst, Jack Baldwin, Pippa Man, Bill Riley and others come out and join us. They are all here to race just like the rest of us. 11) I've got total faith that Mike, and Jay, and Bill and Dana and all of the BOD and officials will learn from this weekend and do a better job next time. 12) I can't wait to get out there and do it again. See you all at Watkins Glen!

One more time for the slow kids in class …. what is OP?