Gateway Post race discussion, videos, photos

[skierman64]

I know there's some good video, photos and discussions from this weekend at Gateway. Post it here.

[P Hardy]

Had a great weekend!  Sprint #5 was the highlight for me, I had a blast battling with the Bavarian Alcoholics and We Have No Integrity.  I hope one of those guys got video.  We tried to but ended up with a selfie of my co-driver instead.  The enduro was going perfectly for us until I went offroading and blew a strut.  I'll post video later.  Overall I really enjoyed the sprints + enduro format.

[enginerd]

Had a great weekend!  Sprint #5 was the highlight for me, I had a blast battling with the Bavarian Alcoholics and We Have No Integrity.  I hope one of those guys got video.  We tried to but ended up with a selfie of my co-driver instead.  The enduro was going perfectly for us until I went offroading and blew a strut.  I'll post video later.  Overall I really enjoyed the sprints + enduro format.

Sprint #5 was awesome! I was in the Holy Rollers orange Honda #66EC in that group of 4 until I had to pull it into the pits with oil consumption issues.

The 3 of you were better than me under braking and cornering, but #66EC had the power advantage so it made for some fun passing and repassing.

 

My first time driving at Gateway, far more fun than it looks on the map. Will be back.

[Steve Fehr]

Sprint #5 was awesome.  I had more fun battling it out with Black Thumb and We Have No Integrity than if I'd been out front for the entire race.  Thumbs up to both of the drivers.

 

This was my first Chump event where I managed to get any seat time.  As a guest driver for Bavarian Alcoholics it was a privilege to drive such a well set up car.  Not really expecting to get any noteworthy footage I didn't even consider getting any video.  I guess that leaves it up to the WHNI guys to pick up our slack.  I sure hope they have some.

 

Steve

[FastCars]

I want to personally thank all the teams that raced with us at Gateway. The track was great and with the exception of the heat and humidity of Saturday the conditions were awesome. After experiencing my first sprint/enduro race, I really like the sprint/enduro combination format. The best of both worlds and an awesome way to really get your car and pit process sorted out. This was my first time in the Central region and I really enjoyex the teams. I look forward to working with the central region again at Gingerman. Thank all the teams for racing at Gateway. I also want to thank the Champ Truck series for having us share the track with you. You all put on a great show. I encourage everyone to go see this series if they are in your area.

Thanks again

Bill Guzenski

West Coast Regional Director

702.403.6443

BillG@ChumpCar.com

[Andrew D Johnson]

Big thanks to Mike Smith this weekend, thanks to Tyler, and Mark Cummings too for giving helping us deplete the US oil reserves. Also, thanks to Bavarian alcoholics for letting us borrow a few tools.  

Congrats to 4CGM and CYR on the great finishes Saturday night, that was a great race. CYR was a blown tire away from getting their first win, 4CGM ended up with their first win!

 

Thanks to the Chump staff for getting us signed up and teched minutes before the event started, we appreciate it. 

 

Who ended up winning the sprints? IDK if they still give a spirit of Chump award, but Mark and the ZX2 guys sure deserved it in my book! I would have liked to stay for awards, but we left as soon as the gates opened, and I still got home about 1AM.

[JimVeee]

Wow!!!! Sprint Race #5 was the most fun I've had racing since my days in karts. Do I ever hope someone has some in-car video. That was absolutely 11/10's effort in the We Have No INTEGRAty #19. Bavarian Alcoholics, the 66 and the 87 that was as good as it gets and I don't think anyone ever touched anyone.....did we? I bet there was at least 10 passes for position during those 5 or 6 laps. Excellent drivers, competitors and true Chumps. I also wound up doing a little agricultural racing that put me back and out of the fun but didn't hurt anything.

Spectacular event Bill. We got Sprints, Enduro, Day, Night, Wet, Dry, free Garage space, free entry for spectators, fantastic competition and........a really cool thing (no pun intended) was ChumpCar renting the big air conditioned Media Room. It was a great place to put a face to all you guys, talk about the race we just had and get cooled off.

If you missed Gateway this year.....don't miss it next.

[Andrew D Johnson]

Wow!!!! Sprint Race #5 was the most fun I've had racing since my days in karts. Do I ever hope someone has some in-car video. That was absolutely 11/10's effort in the We Have No INTEGRAty #19. Bavarian Alcoholics, the 66 and the 87 that was as good as it gets and I don't think anyone ever touched anyone.....did we? I bet there was at least 10 passes for position during those 5 or 6 laps. Excellent drivers, competitors and true Chumps. I also wound up doing a little agricultural racing that put me back and out of the fun but didn't hurt anything.

Spectacular event Bill. We got Sprints, Enduro, Day, Night, Wet, Dry, free Garage space, free entry for spectators, fantastic competition and........a really cool thing (no pun intended) was ChumpCar renting the big air conditioned Media Room. It was a great place to put a face to all you guys, talk about the race we just had and get cooled off.

If you missed Gateway this year.....don't miss it next.

 

Tyler from CYR let us borrow his Go-PRO and it was running during sprint #5. I think most of that battle should be on his Go-Pro. 

[P Hardy]

Wow!!!! Sprint Race #5 was the most fun I've had racing since my days in karts. Do I ever hope someone has some in-car video. That was absolutely 11/10's effort in the We Have No INTEGRAty #19. Bavarian Alcoholics, the 66 and the 87 that was as good as it gets and I don't think anyone ever touched anyone.....did we? I bet there was at least 10 passes for position during those 5 or 6 laps. Excellent drivers, competitors and true Chumps. I also wound up doing a little agricultural racing that put me back and out of the fun but didn't hurt anything.

Spectacular event Bill. We got Sprints, Enduro, Day, Night, Wet, Dry, free Garage space, free entry for spectators, fantastic competition and........a really cool thing (no pun intended) was ChumpCar renting the big air conditioned Media Room. It was a great place to put a face to all you guys, talk about the race we just had and get cooled off.

If you missed Gateway this year.....don't miss it next.

 

I agree with everything you just said!  If it wasn't for the window net I could have reached out and touched #325 once or twice but I don't think we ever made contact.  That was by far the most fun I've ever had racing.

[4CGM Chris]

Had a great weekend!  Sprint #5 was the highlight for me, I had a blast battling with the Bavarian Alcoholics and We Have No Integrity.  I hope one of those guys got video.  We tried to but ended up with a selfie of my co-driver instead.  The enduro was going perfectly for us until I went offroading and blew a strut.  I'll post video later.  Overall I really enjoyed the sprints + enduro format.

I had a good time battling with your car in my sprint race (#2).  It is great to see stock e36's out there so closely matched.  We still need to take some more weight out of our car to keep up on the banking though. Great build on your car and nice driving. 

[skierman64]

What a weekend.  For us it was a weekend of extreme highs and lows. 

 

First off, a huge thanks to Bill and the west coast team who ran the show.  Everything went very smoothly and there were zero issues with sharing the track with the Champtruck guys.  Bill also excelled at handling a contact issue we had with another team.   

 

I also liked the sprint/enduro format of the weekend, although I wouldn't want to see it become a staple of series, it was nice for a change of pace. 

 

The sprints were handled with a qualifying session which determined the starting order for sprint race #1.  After that, on sprint #2-6 the starting order was in inverted order of the previous sprint.  That led to some interesting double wide starts with the faster cars at the back of the pack and the slower cars (with perhaps less experienced racers) up front.  I'm honestly surprised we didn't have any issues going through T1 at 100mph plus, but most cars held their lines and there were no issues.   I have some great video of the starts, especially on Sprint #4 where I went from P16 to P5 before turn 1.  I really think the inverted start policy should be looked at more closely for safety (again it was fun, but at an increased risk).  Perhaps some of the risk could have been mitigated if it had been talked about more at the Saturday driver meeting or if a pace vehicle had been put out on track, to help organized the pack before the green. 

 

The enduro was a blast, we started with our usual 4 lap penalty, at the back of the pack with the other e36 from Black Thumb racing (formerly Butter my Waffle).  The start was very screwy because again they didn't use a pace vehicle for the start while the under yellow.  On the warm up laps the first 6 cars took off at a race pace and the cars after that went at a slower pace, causing a  30 second gap in the field before the start, yet they threw the green flag anyhow.  This added another half lap we had to make up during the race.  As has been discussed in another thread, Chumpcar mandated a one hour max driver stint, which added a another piece to the chess game of race strategy.  In the end, I'm glad they made this call because our team was able to make some pretty fast driver swaps which helped us overcome some of our 4.5 lap penalty.  With 2.5 hours left in the race we were sitting in P4 a few laps down to the experienced teams (CYR, BAA, and Ludicrous Speed) running P1-3 and turning about the same lap times.   Things looked bleak for a podium.  However we were able to make up some time on the final 2 pit stops which helped, and Crank Yankers unfortunately blew a tire which moved them back and out of the lead.  I got in the car in P2, after dark with an hour to go.  I know Gateway like the back of my hand and I'm fast there at night (mostly because I'm too stupid to slow down).  We were 40 seconds down from #325 Bavarian Alcoholics Anonymous but gaining 2-3 seconds a lap.  In the rush to get in the car, my ear buds became unplugged from the radio, so I wasn't getting any updates over the radio but I knew we were in P2 because the scoring tower was visible on the front straight.  So I just kept driving hard, not knowing if I was gaining on P1 or not.  With about 20 minutes left in the race, I began seeing the #325 BAA car ahead of me, then with about 15 minutes remaining I was about 10 car lengths back, when a car lost its engine on the front straight creating a smoke cloud so thick that the end of the front straight could no longer be seen.  We went full course yellow which eventually went to a red flag, the race restarted with time for 2 laps before the end of the race, on the restart the BAA car and I were sitting 3rd and 4th in line.  As we went green I was able to pull up alongside and pass the BAA car before turn 1 and then I got passed the two lapped cars before turn 2 under braking.  From there it was two laps of clear sailing, looking in the mirror a lot for Andrew in the #325, however he wasn't there.  I ended up turning the fastest lap of the race (for our team) on the final lap.  It was a great finish for us, in our team's first win. 

 

The sprints on Sunday, weren't as much fun, as on the first sprint (weekend sprint #4), I made a pass for the lead on the final lap only to have my car driven through, literally, as that car passed me back scraping the entire left side of my car.  Apparently the driver of the other car thought it was acceptable to rub the entire length of my car as he passed me because he wanted the line I was driving.  ATTENTION CIRCLE TRACK DRIVERS, this isn't a demolition derby.  Save that for your circle track, dirt track, keep it off the road course, some of us actually care about how our cars look.  Please review some road course racing rules of the road (many of them are very similar) .  NASA has a great description at the end of their rule book. 

 

Then to make matters worse, while running first in the sprints for C class, in the our next driver hit a cone which knocked the drain of the radiator, and fried the motor.    It was a bad ending to an overall great weekend. 

 

The good really outweighed the bad this weekend.  Finally being on the top step of the podium, is the cure we needed. 

 

Thanks to my teammates Chris, Ernie and Tim for some great driving and great pit stops in the enduro, and to team members of BAA, CYR and Ludicrous Speed for some clean competitive driving. 

 

And special thanks to our sponsors:  Bradley Motor Werke, Bimmerworld, Bimmer Tools, and Motor Sport Media.  Please click their links below. 

 

PS.  When John first announced the Champ Truck series, I thought...how ridiculous, however after spending a weekend occasionally watching those guys, they put on a good show of nice tight racing.  And they brought out actual fans to the grandstand.  There's something rarely/never seen at a Chump race previously. 

 

I've changed my mind.  However, I still won't stand close to any fences while they're running.  I don't think too many race track have barriers designed to stop 14,000 lb trucks. 

Edited July 20, 2015 by skierman64

[Wagonman13]

Team Got Gear? #8d '78 Chrysler LeBaron had a blast...Our car was made in St. Louis and we live there, it is only correct to win a sprint race there. Finally lasted the entire race without major breakage. Fuel pickup issues made us run out of fuel the 1st sprint and turned the enduro into practice for us because we ran out of fuel early. I drove all 7 sprints and all but 2 stints of the enduro. We learned alot and will be better the next road race we run. May have gotten closer in the last sprint race if the left rear leaf spring hanger had not broken making left hand turns frightening at speed. The left side wheel base got longer, not being connected into the car. I enjoyed the two wide starts on the sprints and it seems like our areo package is working well down the straights. I wish we had actually taken some video, but apparently the heat got to us and we failed to work the gopros properly.

-Aaron

[Andrew D Johnson]

 there were zero issues with sharing the track with the Champtruck guys.  Bill also excelled at handling a contact issue we had with another team.   

 

I didn't see any issues at all sharing the event with the ChampTrucks, and I would say if anything it added a bit more fun to the weekend. 

 

I liked the format, and would not hesitate to enter an event shared with the trucks again.  

[4CGM Chris]

 

Had a great weekend!  Sprint #5 was the highlight for me, I had a blast battling with the Bavarian Alcoholics and We Have No Integrity.  I hope one of those guys got video.  We tried to but ended up with a selfie of my co-driver instead.  The enduro was going perfectly for us until I went offroading and blew a strut.  I'll post video later.  Overall I really enjoyed the sprints + enduro format.

I had a good time battling with your car in my sprint race (#2).  It is great to see stock e36's out there so closely matched.  We still need to take some more weight out of our car to keep up on the banking though. Great build on your car and nice driving. 

 

Actually I think that was during the first stint in the enduro... It was a long day.

[Guest E. Tyler Pedersen]

I got back home at 12:30 am this morning and slept in until around 11 am.  I didn't get much sleep over the weekend, so I needed to catch up.  I had a great time at Gateway.  We made a last minute decision to head to Gateway and I'm glad we did.  We got to the track on Friday afternoon and as soon as we got out of the truck at the track, we knew it was going to be a really hot weekend.  In Fort Wayne it was 10 to 15 degrees cooler and it wasn't as humid. 

 

Before I get into the race portion I want to thank Mike and the 4CGM guys for the hospitality.  Mike let our group stay at his house so we didn't have to spend extra money on a hotel. 

 

I want to thank Bill, Sandi and Alex for making the trip from the West Coast.  If it wasn't for you guys, we wouldn't have even had a race to begin with. 

 

Holy Rollers - Dave and Andrew you were a key part to our pit strategy for the enduro and I can't thank you enough.  It was a lot of fun hanging out with you guys in the pits andlearning a lot about running at the top of the leader board.

 

Now for the racing part of it.  We only had three guys over the weekend and one of the guys didn't want to do the sprints just an enduro part.  The other guy wanted to do two sprints on Sunday.  So that left me doing the qualifying and the sprints on Saturday before the endurance race.  This was the first event I had the cool suit installed and I'm glad I did as ambient temps in the car were over 110 degrees.  For the qualifying session I think I placed 4th in the class due to it being my first time on course.  Plus the track got really greasy during the first stint and I didn't have very good confidence. 

 

In the first sprint race I was able to get a good jump on the green flag and get up to the front of the pack.  Because of the penalty time for 4CGM I was able to get first in the class and overall Chump class. 

 

The second sprint race was a lot of fun.  I was battling with the silver DSM at the front for 2nd in class.  I had to work from the back of the pack and there was a red flag that happened during this race due to the Escort rolling over.  On the last lap the silver DSM and I were running side by side going into the carousel and I got into the loose gravel which spun the car. 

 

The third sprint race was a lot of fun as well.  I had some good battles and had a battle with Ludacris and Got Gear at the end.  Got Gear decided it was time I needed a nice dent in the back side of my car in the last corner before the oval section.  I took the inside line and he rotated his car into the back of mine, he also decided to take his wheel down the side of my car and over my wheel which damaged the wheel.  Thanks guys, let me know your address so I can send you the repair bill.  Please work on your driving and driving lines with other competitive cars, especially if they are faster than you in the corners.

 

Now onto the endurance race.  We had to swap out tires and make sure nothing was broke before the endurance race.  I was glad they cut down the driver stints to 1 hour because I was exhausted going into the race from the morning and afternoon sessions.  I decided I would start the endurance race.  After the first hour we worked our way up to 2nd behind BAA and we both pitted at the same time.  Lou went out and he did good, but we fell behind the pace around one or two laps from the leader.  We were in 4th at the time.  Boris was very constant and was able to get us back into contention with consistent laps.  This was the time I started planning my pit strategy to get laps back.  I knew the two cars ahead of us were taking longer in the pits during fuel stops and driver stops, so we were going to make up time in the pits. 

 

I went back out for my 2nd stint and it was a short one (around 40 mins) and this was the best stint I probably ever had.  I ended up setting the race FTD three times during the 40 minute session and brought the car back in the pits on the lead lap for the last fuel stop.  We got the fuel stop done and over with in under 5 mins along with putting our lights on.  We were going to see if we could go the last 2:05 mins on one tank of fuel; it was going to be close.  Boris was back out and put down very consistent laps which enabled us to get into 1st place and bring the car into the pits for the last driver change with 1 lap up on the field.  At this time I knew what lap times I needed to put down in order to save fuel and be able to win the race.  I was out there for 5 or 10 minutes when I felt a huge vibration in the driver's side front and then I felt the tire let go going into the carousel.  I knew I had to drive the car into the pits or else we would've been out of the podium. 

 

We got the tire changed and got back out, but we were two laps off of the front two cars at that time.  I didn't know where we were in placing and forgot to look at the Gateway board, so when the Honda blew the engine on the back stretch with 15 mins left in the race  I was relieved.  My low fuel light was on and I didn't think I was going to make it to the end of the race.  During the caution I kept the car in 5th gear to conserve fuel in case I needed to jump on the front cars to pass them.  When the race was stopped for the red flag, that's when Andrew came up to me and told me I needed to pass Ludacris Speed in order to secure 3rd place.  On the restart it was BAA, 4CGM, Ludacris and CYR all in a row for the Green, White, Checker. 

 

At the restart, Ludacris dipped to the inside, 4CGM dipped to the middle and BAA went to the right side.  I knew Mike was fast in the dark so I stayed behind him which let me pass both Ludacris and BAA and follow Mike.  Mike was flying through the course and I was just trying to make it to the end on fuel.  When the checkers came out we finished in 3rd place and it was the best place we've got to date.  This was one of the most exciting races I've been a part of and where my strategy in the pits actually worked.

 

On Sunday at the sprints we ended up blowing the engine up.  We lost coolant, but the car never overheated and the oil pressure never dropped.  I'm going to do some tests on the engine this week to figure out the culprit but I'm going to throw in another junkyard engine for the VIR 24.

 

Thanks again for a great race!  Videos to be up shortly

Edited July 20, 2015 by Crank Yankers Racing

[Andrew D Johnson]

  I was out there for 5 or 10 minutes when I felt a huge vibration in the driver's side front and then I felt the tire let go going into the carousel.  I knew I had to drive the car into the pits or else we would've been out of the podium. 

I should have caught this tire going out. I "checked" all 4 an hour before you went out during the fuel stop but mainly focused on the outside of the tire. We never have wear like this, but not being familiar with the car I should have had Boris turn the wheel so I could checked the inside edges too. I also spent more time on the right front, as we don't have left tire wear at gateway with our car and you already had an issue on the right front earlier. 

[Guest E. Tyler Pedersen]

I was out there for 5 or 10 minutes when I felt a huge vibration in the driver's side front and then I felt the tire let go going into the carousel. I knew I had to drive the car into the pits or else we would've been out of the podium.

I should have caught this tire going out. I "checked" all 4 an hour before you went out during the fuel stop but mainly focused on the outside of the tire. We never have wear like this, but not being familiar with the car I should have had Boris turn the wheel so I could checked the inside edges too. I also spent more time on the right front, as we don't have left tire wear at gateway with our car and you already had an issue on the right front earlier.

No worries Andrew, lesson learned for next time. They were all used tires this weekend so we should've swapped out for the last stint

[Kingston]

Gateway murders tires.  We chunked our right rear severely...but man, what a great weekend!!  Team Bavarian Alcoholic Anonymous (or just Alcoholics, as the announcer kept calling us) had a blast racing with everyone this weekend...and someone left the track with a working car with no new dents!

[Guest E. Tyler Pedersen]

Gateway murders tires.  We chunked our right rear severely...but man, what a great weekend!!  Team Bavarian Alcoholic Anonymous (or just Alcoholics, as the announcer kept calling us) had a blast racing with everyone this weekend...and someone left the track with a working car with no new dents!

 

I'm glad you did. I have to pound out a huge dent left by a Chrysler in the rear of my car. 

[Wagonman13]

Ok since we are cyber-bullying me and the Chrysler LeBaron, I will take the bait and address these:

 

skierman64: I looked up the NASA rule book and I did learn something. You never passed me. The definition of a pass is clearing the rear to front bumper which you never did. Your crossover failed. I was there accelerating off the corner like my car is good at. If you were past me, I would have hit your rear bumper. Seems like you don't understand off-the-corner torque of circle track cars. You should have noticed it when I passed you off the same corner in the first place. If it wasn't for the light mist I don't think you had a chance to win anyway. I also noticed the way you drove while ahead of me is defined as blocking in the NASA rule book. We can protest driving right??? I would like to see some video. I did not see anyone else block so blatantly ether day and that includes your teammates. 

 

Crankyankers:  I had a blast battling with you. You definitely made some aggressive moves there at the end in that sprint race. You were lucky to take my momentum away in nascar 3 and 4 so I could not get you by the flag stand as the checkers fell. I disagree that our car handles poorly or my lines may be wrong. Our car handles differently than most so my lines may be different. This was our 5th chump race at Gateway with this car. All of our tires wore perfectly, the brakes are barely used. I turned 1.1X.XX lap times right off the trailer all day. and 1.17.1 at night. With a fastest lap of  1.15.0 and personal best at Gateway.  You have no idea how may laps I have logged behind the wheel of a v-8 stock car. As far as the wheels go, try steel  rock crawler wheels like we run. At at only 38 lbs each they hold up very well. 

 

Remember this is chumpcar crapcan racing. 

 

Maybe each of you can run a segment in our car to show us the way to victory. We will work on it some more and be faster the next time. It was alot of fun to have a shot to win each one of the sprint races in our car. 

Edited July 21, 2015 by Wagonman13

[4CGM Chris]

Sprint race 2 after the red flag.

crank Yankers spin at 11:00

[Andrew D Johnson]

If using the most oil was the goal, I was the real winner this weekend. I used 14 qts of oil in 7 partial sprints.

[4CGM Chris]

Ok since we are cyber-bullying me and the Chrysler LeBaron, I will take the bait and address these:

skierman64: I looked up the NASA rule book and I did learn something. You never passed me. The definition of a pass is clearing the rear to front bumper which you never did. Your crossover failed. I was there accelerating off the corner like my car is good at. If you were past me, I would have hit your rear bumper. Seems like you don't understand off-the-corner torque of circle track cars. You should have noticed it when I passed you off the same corner in the first place. If it wasn't for the light mist I don't think you had a chance to win anyway. I also noticed the way you drove while ahead of me is defined as blocking in the NASA rule book. We can protest driving right??? I would like to see some video. I did not see anyone else block so blatantly ether day and that includes your teammates.

Crankyankers: I had a blast battling with you. You definitely made some aggressive moves there at the end in that sprint race. You were lucky to take my momentum away in nascar 3 and 4 so I could not get you by the flag stand as the checkers fell. I disagree that our car handles poorly or my lines may be wrong. Our car handles differently than most so my lines may be different. This was our 5th chump race at Gateway with this car. All of our tires wore perfectly, the brakes are barely used. I turned 1.1X.XX lap times right off the trailer all day. and 1.17.1 at night. With a fastest lap of 1.15.0 and personal best at Gateway. You have no idea how may laps I have logged behind the wheel of a v-8 stock car. As far as the wheels go, try steel rock crawler wheels like we run. At at only 38 lbs each they hold up very well.

Remember this is chumpcar crapcan racing.

Maybe each of you can run a segment in our car to show us the way to victory. We will work on it some more and be faster the next time. It was alot of fun to have a shot to win each one of the sprint races in our car.

Please define what you consider blocking. I do not know Mike to be someone who blocks. Taking the inside line as a defensive line is not blocking. Moving more than once in reaction to the car behind would be blocking, but I did not see him do that in the videos when I was downloading them. I did however see your incident when he was driving his line off of 7 to the 2nd lane of the oval and you hitting his back left tire with your bumper with plenty of room to your inside. As you surely saw in the NASA rule book in that instance you did not have the right to the line if you were not to the drivers door. (And even more so if you follow Chump rules). If you are hitting people in the rear then that particular line was wrong. I am sure your lines work for your car when you have open track but you can't keep driving that line when the car in front has the line you want. I will see if I can reciew the video of Mike tomorrow and see if I can see any examples of him blocking. You may have finished in front of people in the sprint races but with only 1 car in your class it does not matter very much as they do not give out an Overal winner for the sprints, just a 1st in class. While you were busy trying to win at any cost, we were trying to put the 40sec gap between us and the next c class car due to our 40sec penalty. Fighting that hard to not give up a postion that does not matter in the standings seems a bit excessive to me, and it destroyed 2 of our Kosei wheels in addition to the row of donuts left along the side of our car. We run the Koseis because they are A good price for how light they are and they stand up to most track abuse and we don't usually plan on contact with a bumper or a car like yours. The rock crawler wheels may work for you but the offset and size and weight may not work for us. We should not have to buy tank wheels to survive the race. I know we are all racers and we all want to get the overall win even if it doesn't matter, but we try to do it not at the expense of others cars.

[P Hardy]

>http://youtu.be/P7_6ARpMOx4

Sprint race 2 after the red flag.

crank Yankers spin at 11:00

Look at Mr Moneybags here with the working speedometer

 

Regarding a certain Chrysler:  I can't speak for anybody else but I did not feel safe being too close to that car this weekend, or any other time I've seen it at Gateway.  I was inches away from #4, #325, #19, #37 and others at high speed this weekend and never felt the same way around them.  That's all I have to say about that.

Edited July 21, 2015 by P Hardy

[4CGM Chris]

http://youtu.be/P7_6ARpMOx4

Sprint race 2 after the red flag.

crank Yankers spin at 11:00

Look at Mr Moneybags here with the working speedometer

Too bad our stock temp gauge and aftermarket water temp gauge were not good enough to help us avoid damaging the head when we lost all our coolant.

I hardly ever look at the speedo, but Bradley Motor Werke has working BMW clusters if you are looking for one.

Edited July 21, 2015 by 4CGM Chris