Scribe Posted March 21, 2017 Report Share Posted March 21, 2017 (edited) Let me start by introducing myself: My name is Brian, but I am more commonly known among my friends and co-workers as Scribe. I have been lurking around these forums for about two years now, but never felt the unrelenting urge to post much. Some of you may have met me (although I probably did not introduce myself) at various races in the Eastern and Central regions. I have been crewing and occasionally driving for @Hi_Im_Will's GWR team since the Chumpcar race at Gingerman in 2015. Some might say I'm the mastermind behind the race strategy that got GWR on the podium at the Eastern Region Chumpionship last year. Others might say that I'm just the guy who hangs out in GWR's pit that stares at Race Monitor too much. Either way, I'm a big fan of Chumpcar and I have decided to start my own team and build my own car. Understanding how much work (and money) it takes to build a competitive Chumpcar, I've enlisted the help of one of my friends from college who just so happens to live about a mile away from me. Together we formed ScribeWorks Motorsport and began looking for the car we wanted to build. We decided to build something a little more obscure than GWR's tried and true E30. I could just tell you what we are building, but I'd rather see if you guys can guess it. Here is your hint: Good luck! P.S. @Hi_Im_Will and @Jamie, don't spoil it! Edited March 3, 2020 by Scribe Title change 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi_Im_Will Posted March 21, 2017 Report Share Posted March 21, 2017 Nice logo. Is this the build thread, or will the finished car just magically appear at a race? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginerd Posted March 21, 2017 Report Share Posted March 21, 2017 El Camino! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krackerx Posted March 21, 2017 Report Share Posted March 21, 2017 Mitsubishi starion 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Advisory Committee Andrew D Johnson Posted March 21, 2017 Technical Advisory Committee Report Share Posted March 21, 2017 I hope it's mitsu! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Advisory Committee mcoppola Posted March 21, 2017 Technical Advisory Committee Report Share Posted March 21, 2017 (edited) Looks like a Toyota (Celica?) to me... Need a cage builder? Or an older 300ZX? Edited March 21, 2017 by mcoppola 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators E. Tyler Pedersen Posted March 21, 2017 Administrators Report Share Posted March 21, 2017 Looks like an E30 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginerd Posted March 21, 2017 Report Share Posted March 21, 2017 8 minutes ago, Crank Yankers Racing said: Looks like an E30 Wish my e30 was even half as aerodynamic as that! On topic, if it is a widebody starion / dodge conquest, and if my quick googling was accurate (never heard of this car before today!), then that is a very good platform on paper under the 2017 rules. E30s (and everyone else for that matter!) beware... and hope that this car isn't reliable on the track! Good find. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted March 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2017 (edited) On 3/21/2017 at 6:36 PM, krackerx said: Mitsubishi starion We have a winner! The picture I posted is actually of a Chrysler Conquest that we just finished stripping for parts last weekend. The actual car we are building is shown below: She is a 1988 Mitsubishi Starion with around 67k miles on her that we picked up in downtown Chicago. The car is originally from Texas, so it mostly rust free. She will be going under the knife this weekend. I have some more info to share on her that I'll post up tomorrow. Edited July 3, 2017 by Scribe 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted March 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Hi_Im_Will said: Nice logo. Is this the build thread, or will the finished car just magically appear at a race? I waited a couple of months to see if the car would build itself, but sadly it has not happened yet. I guess we'll have to do it the hard way. 32 minutes ago, mcoppola said: Looks like a Toyota (Celica?) to me... Need a cage builder? Or an older 300ZX? We are planning to build our own cage, but if we mess it up bad enough we'll be in touch. 14 minutes ago, enginerd said: Wish my e30 was even half as aerodynamic as that! On topic, if it is a widebody starion / dodge conquest, and if my quick googling was accurate (never heard of this car before today!), then that is a very good platform on paper under the 2017 rules. E30s (and everyone else for that matter!) beware... and hope that this car isn't reliable on the track! Good find. That's what we are hoping! ...but we are a little worried about the reliability part. Edited March 22, 2017 by Scribe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mopar 4 Life Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 Please don't tell me you are using the 2.6 turbo motor? I had a friend with one of those cars. We used to make fun as his car got more "head" then he did. Its been a long time but I remember they kept on cracking. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikiel Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 I owned a Starion back in to 80s. Loved the car, but it loved eating turbos. Be sure you make every effort to keep that turbo cool and it should be a fun car to race. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogren-Engineering Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 Turn to a T3 Garret , use mobile one and some sort of accusump . Do the usual balance shaft delete. Itl fly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi_Im_Will Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 Reasons this will be fast: 1. Turbo 2. Cheaty turbo rules 3. 22 gallon fuel cell to better exploit cheaty turbo rules 4. Nice wedge-y shape 5. @Scribe has spent the last 2 years working on the GWR car with Chris and I 6. @Scribe knows all of our go-fast tricks 7. @Scribe is usually ~80% responsible for our race strategy 8. @Scribe also came up with a lot of our go-fast tricks Ya'll better hope this thing breaks down a lot, or ya'll gonna lose. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginerd Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 12 minutes ago, flyinglizard said: Turn to a T3 Garret Doesn't have 100 points in the budget if he wants to keep it under 500. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogren-Engineering Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 Under the heat shield they all look the same.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Advisory Committee mcoppola Posted March 22, 2017 Technical Advisory Committee Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Scribe said: We have a winner! The picture I posted is actually of a Chrysler Conquest that we just finished stripping for parts last weekend. The actual car we are building is shown below: She is a 1988 Mitsubishi Starion with around 67k miles on her that we picked up in downtown Chicago. The car is originally from Texas, so it mostly rust free. She will be going under the knife this weekend. I have some more info to share on her that I'll post up tomorrow. Wow, a blast from the past. I now recall loving the shape of those cars! Good luck with the build, can't wait to see it in race trim. I'm sensing a short road trip to Canton in my future... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi_Im_Will Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 16 minutes ago, mcoppola said: I'm sensing a short road trip to Canton in my future... Cage build party at Scribe's house? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Advisory Committee mcoppola Posted March 22, 2017 Technical Advisory Committee Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 10 minutes ago, Hi_Im_Will said: Cage build party at Scribe's house? Only if you guys share some of those "go-fast tricks"... Might we be seeing a fat tired, aero Focus this summer??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted March 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 11 hours ago, Mopar 4 Life said: Please don't tell me you are using the 2.6 turbo motor? I had a friend with one of those cars. We used to make fun as his car got more "head" then he did. Its been a long time but I remember they kept on cracking. The plan is to use the 2.6. My understanding is that the head-cracking issue is due to the inclusion of steel jet valves in an aluminum head. The issue may also be cars not receiving proper maintenance leading to overheating and head damage. The plan is to remove the jet valves and weld the opening shut. 11 hours ago, flyinglizard said: Turn to a T3 Garret , use mobile one and some sort of accusump . Do the usual balance shaft delete. Itl fly. Balance shaft delete and Accusump are on the to-do list. The 12A should be plenty of turbo for Chumpcar. I'm not trying to be that cheaty... 11 hours ago, Hi_Im_Will said: Reasons this will be fast: 1. Turbo 2. Cheaty turbo rules 3. 22 gallon fuel cell to better exploit cheaty turbo rules 4. Nice wedge-y shape 5. @Scribe has spent the last 2 years working on the GWR car with Chris and I 6. @Scribe knows all of our go-fast tricks 7. @Scribe is usually ~80% responsible for our race strategy 8. @Scribe also came up with a lot of our go-fast tricks Ya'll better hope this thing breaks down a lot, or ya'll gonna lose. I think you're giving me too much credit... or you're trying to get my car banned before I finish it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDChristianson Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 Looks and sounds cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bremsen Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 Love those cars. But I can't believe you're going to chump one.....they're getting very rare. Hope to get to see it at a race someday soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Advisory Committee Andrew D Johnson Posted March 22, 2017 Technical Advisory Committee Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 My thoughts on this thread so far: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiredBirds Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 Those are cool cars... always liked them. the baddest one I've seen had a twin turbo's Magnum 360 in it. I'd try a magnum and 5 speed or a HO 4.7 and 5 speed. You'd have more power than a turbo 4 and a much broader power band. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racer28173 Posted March 22, 2017 Report Share Posted March 22, 2017 (edited) A good friend had one of those when I was in college (Conquest TSi - what a name!). I remember him needing to replace the turbo at around 50K, and he was meticulous on the maintenance (Mobil 1 was the oil of choice, too). The lag on those cars was typical for the era (i.e. pretty bad) and you really needed to keep the revs up because the low end was pretty anemic. I can't quite recall, but I seem to remember him having a problem with the trans at some point too. He was street racing it (nothing serious, just being a typical kid in the wonderful era before cameras at intersections). If you can keep it reliable, it should be pretty fun and pretty fast. I look forward to seeing it when it is finished. It is funny how things like this bring back memories long forgotten. I can't speak to the Starion, but the electronics in the Conquest were bizarre looking. It was one of the first cars to put audio controls on the steering wheel though, so it was ahead of its time in at least one way. You have to laugh at the lower ad. You see the 5.5 sec time and say "holy crap", but then realize it is 0 - 50, not 0 - 60 (even though they do the braking test from 60) And for you young kids, 5.5 seconds was really fast in the 80s for a 0-60 time. That was what a non-turbo 911 did back then. Hard to believe, I know. Edited March 22, 2017 by Racer28173 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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