Administrators Bill Strong Posted July 4, 2017 Administrators Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 This has kind of been discussed in the past. Starting a mentor program for new teams or less experienced teams that need help at understanding ins and outs of chumpcar. From understanding the rules from understanding the rules, pre race filling out the paperwork properly so you don't get yelled at at registration, to understanding how a fuel stop works or how you should play yellow flags during a race. Helping these teams Builder racecraft and not get frustrated and just bleed money. While Racers always want to have the upper hand or the unfair advantage, I think it would be great for the future of Grassroots racing if some of the more experienced teams could help newer teams transition to be better Racers better teams and ultimately they will have more fun doing this. How do you guys think a program like this should work? The way I look at it is that I can help you as a team owner with some of the basic car preparation, rules interpretation, getting your paperwork ready, and the stuff that you need to bring to pit lane or even to the the race that will make your weekend more enjoyable. And you do most of this via messenger or email. It's been suggested that we pair up teams that request this on Race weekends. My issue with that is that I am already seriously over work trying to keep the wheels on my car to help another team out. But pairing up these teams and pitlane the other team can observe my team and what we're doing and what we bring and that could help them as well. But I think a lot of this information can be handled via email and messenger. What do you think? Let me know what you think about this it's something that we want to start up fairly quickly. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Infiniti Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 (edited) Email/messenger contact, exchange phone numbers,check in/tech together, pair them in hot and cold pits with a combined "all access" agreement. Edited July 4, 2017 by Team Infiniti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcwilliams00 Posted July 4, 2017 Report Share Posted July 4, 2017 Chump is founded on allowing non-experienced people/teams to race cars. So this is a great idea. Seasoned veterans assisting a new/young team would help 360 within the series. The new teams learning curve would be steep, and safety would be better. But the veterans need to have the series best interests in mind. I would not be able to have my own car if I did not have the ability to rely on my experienced racing friends, and @Bill Strong. lol Ideas: Pit together, Drivers meetings together, contact information prior to and after races (facebook messenger, texts, phones), novice school together if first race, have the mentor inspect car for safety/technical ideas. I'll think of some more. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogren-Engineering Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 Happy to help .The big problem with new teams is that they know a lot already. Let me know how icanhelp. MM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jass Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 As the owner of a new team (only one race so far) I would be interested in this. We are registered for VIR in August and looking to build on what we learned in March. Are there any teams out there that want to take a bunch of simracers in a Miata under their wing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MR2 Biohazard Posted July 5, 2017 Members Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 9 hours ago, Hugh Jass said: As the owner of a new team (only one race so far) I would be interested in this. We are registered for VIR in August and looking to build on what we learned in March. Are there any teams out there that want to take a bunch of simracers in a Miata under their wing? I am going to vir in Agust as a driver for another team instead of my own car and can give advice and help if you would like, just pm me. On the idea of mentoring I think it can help new teams get up to speed quickly with what we take for granted after all these years of racing. It can also be a way to get a new team to even start a build if they have encouragement and help from an experience team or person to give guidance. I think it can really help. Troy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators E. Tyler Pedersen Posted July 5, 2017 Administrators Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 I know we tried to do some of this stuff a couple of years ago, but never got off the ground. I think some CZAR was still in charge of running the organization. I would be willing to help teams out in the area to get up to speed as quick as possible. I think it is a good idea to get mentoring out there so new teams do not get so discriminated/frustrated. The goal is for these new teams to come back, not be a one race and done. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Bill Strong Posted July 5, 2017 Author Administrators Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 How do we set his up? I think we make a list... split out by states and whatever Canadia uses. with something like this... Bill Strong Racing Strong Motorsports Virginia, USA email: wdstrongjr@gmail.com Racing with ChumpCar since 2010 Local Tracks - Summit Point, VIR, Dominion Raceway Specialty: 1970-current Toyota with a specialty in the AE86 and MR2 (1984-2005) Engines - 4AGE, 5SFE, 3SGE, 3SGTE, 3VZFE, 1MZFE, 3MZFE, 2GRFE 1968-1973 Opel GT Engine swap paperwork Creative Math and Deception through the use of shiny objects Rules Interpretation and the Use of the Force ChumpCar Aerodynamics Brakes Race day organization In-car media and video live and recorded 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Advisory Committee Andrew D Johnson Posted July 5, 2017 Technical Advisory Committee Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 (edited) Andrew Johnson Holy Rollers Illinois, USA email: AIVDOCS@gmail.com Racing with ChumpCar since 2010 Local Tracks - Road 'merica, Autobahn, Gingerman Specialty: Drinking beer or margaritas Arguing with teammates Annoying Mike Chisek Mean mugging competitors Forgetting tools, parts, and driving gear at home Borrowing tools from other teams to repair my car posting memes on chump forum Some general endurance racing knowledge Edited July 5, 2017 by red0 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Bill Strong Posted July 5, 2017 Author Administrators Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 I am making a google form that we can use to collect this info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcwilliams00 Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 maybe somehow make it a requirement that less than 3 races, you must pair with a "mentor" and you pick it via the information like you said Bill, and talk to them. But the real thing is at the racetrack, right? Helping run a clean race and on the spot corrections for safety? So maybe identified mentors have some sort of identifier when registered for an event, so a new team and seek them out and pair up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Bill Strong Posted July 5, 2017 Author Administrators Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 Feed back. https://goo.gl/forms/N73VN30JLYPWmH7p1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Advisory Committee Andrew D Johnson Posted July 5, 2017 Technical Advisory Committee Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 10 minutes ago, Dcwilliams00 said: maybe somehow make it a requirement NOPE! Barriers to entry are terrible. We won our first chumpcar event without a mentor......simply not needed for some teams. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Infiniti Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 1 minute ago, Bill Strong said: Feed back. https://goo.gl/forms/N73VN30JLYPWmH7p1 Not bad but car type should be less relevant, this should be more to show noobs how to pit/register/tech and basic mechanical needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginerd Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 (edited) Might want to add another field to the form: 'DNF percentage' I'd hate to be a new team who links up with another team thinking they are hot s*** only to find that they rarely finish a race After all, just finishing should be the main goal at any team's first race. Edited July 5, 2017 by enginerd 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Bill Strong Posted July 5, 2017 Author Administrators Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 My take on it is that if you have teams that are running up a specific car that you have them contact somebody running the same type car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators E. Tyler Pedersen Posted July 5, 2017 Administrators Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 53 minutes ago, red0 said: Andrew Johnson Holy Rollers Illinois, USA email: AIVDOCS@gmail.com Racing with ChumpCar since 2010 Local Tracks - Road 'merica, Autobahn, Gingerman Specialty: Drinking beer or margaritas Arguing with teammates Annoying Mike Chisek Mean mugging competitors Forgetting tools, parts, and driving gear at home Borrowing tools from other teams to repair my car posting memes on chump forum Some general endurance racing knowledge Best email ever! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Bill Strong Posted July 5, 2017 Author Administrators Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 Mike Chisek approved and I will be posting it up live 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Bill Strong Posted July 5, 2017 Author Administrators Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 slight change... From the Mentor page, one could register as a mentor (subject to review by us) or one could register as a new team seeking a mentor. Ultimately all matches will be done by us. I'll make the page this week. All mentors must be members in good standing with CCWS Please start applying to be a mentor - https://goo.gl/forms/9eS3t67JavmJis173 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvumtnbkr Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 It says I need to sign in to google to fill out the form. Me no want to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators E. Tyler Pedersen Posted July 5, 2017 Administrators Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 Just now, wvumtnbkr said: It says I need to sign in to google to fill out the form. Me no want to. Yeah in order to fill out Google Doc forms you must sign in to Google. Makes sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvumtnbkr Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 Just now, Crank Yankers Racing said: Yeah in order to fill out Google Doc forms you must sign in to Google. Makes sense to me. Oh, I understand it. I just don't want to create an account just for this. Make it more accessible and I would gladly mentor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginerd Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, wvumtnbkr said: Oh, I understand it. I just don't want to create an account just for this. Make it more accessible and I would gladly mentor. You don't have a google account? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Bill Strong Posted July 5, 2017 Author Administrators Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 hmm. maybe I have a setting wrong. I'll fix that fixed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvumtnbkr Posted July 5, 2017 Report Share Posted July 5, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, enginerd said: You don't have a google account? not intentionally. Not one that I use for anything. I am sure I have one because I have an android phone, but I don't actively use it. I have been able to update and use google docs (like for a survey) from other sources without personally signing in. I still have a Hotmail account.... I'm lame. Edited July 5, 2017 by wvumtnbkr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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