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I am new to chump car looking to purchase this car and the question I have is about the cage.  I understand will need some door bars added back in but mainly was trying to check as a whole will the cage work for chump or will it need to be cut out and replaced.  Car was orginally built back in 1996 as a Neon ACR racing series.  Im not expecting a flat yes or no that it will pass the rules (because hard to verify with just 2 pictures) but more or less looking for if anyone can see or know of a red flag that would make it need to have the whole cage redone. 

 

Really appreciate the help! Thanks!

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The bar padding looks like pipe insulation which definitely won't work.  That's sort of a sign to look for other questionable sign.  I'd ask about tube wall thickness, tube diameter and material.  The mount point at the floor behind the seat looks dubious, it may be fine but I'd check that it won't punch thru the floor and that it has a load spreading plate.

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Hey man welcome  ,  can't see much from these pictures .  Our cages must be attached on top of plates , the thickness and dementions are in the rules .  Also the tubing has to be 095 or thicker  and has to have a diagonal bar from top left of the main hoop to the lower right .  You said your going to add door bars , I like the Nascar style , some like X but they must be two complete bars not pieced together at the X. .

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Well the car is a decent price and has silly low miles on it (so hopefully little to no rust). And comes with a ton of extra parts and race wheels.  But also boarder line if it needs the cage removed and a new one put in and may not be as good of a deal.  I'm ok with changing a couple bars and or adding something if needed but from what you guys are saying chances are the cage would need to be redone with all the issues.   I would plan to add a NASCAR style door bar as I prefer them as well.  Is there a easy way to check what kind of material it is because I'm willing to bet the owner doesn't know.  

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1 hour ago, Josh Fettes said:

Well the car is a decent price and has silly low miles on it (so hopefully little to no rust). And comes with a ton of extra parts and race wheels.  But also boarder line if it needs the cage removed and a new one put in and may not be as good of a deal.  I'm ok with changing a couple bars and or adding something if needed but from what you guys are saying chances are the cage would need to be redone with all the issues.   I would plan to add a NASCAR style door bar as I prefer them as well.  Is there a easy way to check what kind of material it is because I'm willing to bet the owner doesn't know.  

Drill an inspection hole over near the passenger door. That will answer your wall thickness question....

3.2.1.1. A 3/16” inspection hole must be drilled in the main hoop, such that a Tech Inspector has access to measure the wall thickness of the main hoop without obstruction. 

 

That roll bar tubing they used looks undersized to me...

3.2.14.1. Minimum tubing size for cars weighing UNDER 2,500 pounds must use a minimum tubing size of 1.50” x .095.

3.2.14.2.  Minimum tubing size for cars weighing OVER 2,500 pounds must use a minimum tubing size of 1.75" x .095 or 1.50” x .120". 

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Where are you located? I have a chump legal cage i can sell you that i cut out of my last car. I built a new cage with better tie in to the front struts, and the new cage is shorter for the shorter wheelbase. You could cut your roof off and weld or bolt mine to the floor as an easy work around. You then weld the roof back on. 

 

The cage i am discussing was a spec neon converted to chump specs with added tubes and mods. Mine was an autopower.

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6 hours ago, Black Magic said:

Where are you located? I have a chump legal cage i can sell you that i cut out of my last car. I built a new cage with better tie in to the front struts, and the new cage is shorter for the shorter wheelbase. You could cut your roof off and weld or bolt mine to the floor as an easy work around. You then weld the roof back on. 

 

The cage i am discussing was a spec neon converted to chump specs with added tubes and mods. Mine was an autopower.

 

Located around the Sioux Falls South Dakota area.  Might be interested in that as a option.  How much you looking to get out of it

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 If the car is one  the original SCCA Neon Cup cars, the tube size is fine . 

 It should have a log book with tube size listed and a hole in the hoop to measure.

 

Just add the driver door bars and some sort of anti punch through. Tying the cage to the  door sills/ rockers would suffice. 

A cross dash bar  would be nice.  

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