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Would this be allowed in Chump?

In another racing series, we were running between 2nd to 4th in class depending on pit stops.  Towards the end of the race, due to a pit stop to give us enough fuel to finish, we were 1.5 laps down.  Our expectations were that the 2 teams ahead of us would also need to stop.  Instead, with about 4 minutes left, 1 of the teams comes to a stop on the final straight near the wall.  It brings out the yellow on the final turn and straight.  A pit marshal latter told us he had asked them to move if they could.  Not having enough fuel for a lap they sat until the flagger pulled out the checker, they then fire up and cross the line about 10 seconds in front of us.  They end up being towed back.  Final result for us, 4th in class and 7th overall.

Our protest - they intentionally caused a yellow on a downhill blind curve - it prohibiting teams to race to the line - it was dangerous to stop on track, this was the same spot that the 636 BMW Squadron car crashed into the wall the day before - they ignored a directive of a pit marshal to move the car if they could ( I'm not sure the powers that be knew that).

Our protest was rejected as this scenario isn't in the rules.

In the big picture, no big deal, the prize money between 3rd and 4th is zero and it's just a trophy.  We had a great weekend of racing.  The other team are good guys as are the officials.  No yelling or screaming, just a simple level headed protest.

So.....opinions?

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Stopping on the track is a Richard move no matter what. Scoring wise, he managed to have enough fuel to get the car over the S/F line for on more lap. As long as the rules don't require the car to take the actual checkered flag, he would have completed that final lap before you whether he coasted across the line or waited for the checker.

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9 minutes ago, tommytipover said:

Stopping on the track is a Richard move no matter what. Scoring wise, he managed to have enough fuel to get the car over the S/F line for on more lap. As long as the rules don't require the car to take the actual checkered flag, he would have completed that final lap before you whether he coasted across the line or waited for the checker.

 

I think "the other series" is referring to the WRL race at Barber this weekend. If that is correct, you must take the checkered or you are scored as DNF.  

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1 minute ago, red0 said:

 

I think "the other series" is referring to the WRL race at Barber this weekend. If that is correct, you must take the checkered or you are scored as DNF.  

 

Ahh, then I think there should be a rule about impeding or something to that effect. Lots of rules get written after someone drives though a loophole. :) I think most series don't require you take the checker just to try and avoid that scenario.

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I don't like the rule that you have to take the checkered, I like the way chump does it better. I like the way that Chisek runs a race where if the race ends at 4PM, IT ENDS AT 4PM!

 

The following situation happened to us at Road America 2 years ago (IIRC):

We are in 2nd place, with 2 laps to go and the radiator hose blows off. Our driver radios in saying that the temp gauge is going wacky, we tell him to just pull over and shut it down since we have enough lead over 3rd place to keep the spot. On the last lap, 1st place runs out of fuel so they don't throw the checkered. Then 2nd place runs out of fuel the next lap. Finally 8 minutes later they throw the checkered. We end up like 5th place since the race went so long. 

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44 minutes ago, dogtired said:

Brilliant....  but not very sporstmanlike....

Gurney did it at the first Daytona Continental race and it is lauded as a brilliant and classy move.  

 

If Toyota had done that last year at Le Mans, they would have been classified.  

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This goes back to you guys saying that endurance racing is about surviving. Saving the car. Not going all out from the green flag to the end. 
In endurance racing, you do what it takes to get to the end. 

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5 hours ago, Bill Strong said:

Race Craft.

 

 

Race Crap is more like it.

 

Intentionally stopping on track in a position that would force a FC yellow flag when your car is not impeded and is able to continue under its own power should be an automatic penalty. 

 

Completely unsafe and sounds like "actions detrimental to the sport".

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54 minutes ago, pintodave said:

 

Race Crap is more like it.

 

Intentionally stopping on track in a position that would force a FC yellow flag when your car is not impeded and is able to continue under its own power should be an automatic penalty. 

 

Completely unsafe and sounds like "actions detrimental to the sport".

 

This and for 3 minutes ignoring the Pit Marshall to move the car.  As said earlier, the stopped car was in the same spot the 636 BMW went head first into the wall on Sat. 

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1 minute ago, enginerd said:

And F1 responds with a 5 place grid penalty (a couple penalties have been handed out this season for impeding in qualifying).

That's for not getting out of the way. 

 

If you "accidentally" blow a corner and are parked in the runoff (Mercedes last year at Monte Carlo), well then oops....

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