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a friend of mine recently decided that he wants to build a Chumpcar out of a totalled 2017 Mitsubishi Mirage that he used as a parts car for another one.. it has 5000 miles on it, 3 cylinders, and a cvt transmission. i was shocked- shocked- that i couldn't find any sort of a valuation for a 6 month old economy car on the list...
we don't care about penalty laps, we don't care if we win anything.. but we agree that with that few miles it should be at least reliable enough to get thru 14 hours of racing at Brainerd. he and one other guy have dirt circle track experience, and the other 2 of us have no racing experience at all so it should be an entertaining adventure if nothing else..

 

oh, yeah... the technical question: how well will the cvt hold up? the engine has all of 80hp and the car weighed just over 2000 pounds before it was stripped, so i think durability should be a non issue. it will just be boring to drive..

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40 minutes ago, novaderrik said:

how well will the cvt hold up? the engine has all of 80hp

80hp is irrelevant when the trans is sized properly (read weenie) for such a powerhouse.

 

Saying that

 

Go for it, huge trans cooler, and buy everything needed with mindset the stuff will be used in the next car in a year or 2. This will allow everyone the experience to get reliable radios, coolsuit, pitstops and such down pat.

 

Brake pads... send a set to someplace like carbotech and have em put their compound on your backing plates.

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Huh? The whole reason why paying for Chump racing is to drive fast and to have fun. 

 

To pay the same for driving a boring car slowly misses the point completely. 

 

But, if you insist you need no VPI or penalty laps. Two magic letters: EC. You will be dead last either way!

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16 minutes ago, Team Infiniti said:

80hp is irrelevant when the trans is sized properly (read weenie) for such a powerhouse.

 

Brake pads... send a set to someplace like carbotech and have em put their compound on your backing plates.

 

Do you seriously think they will even need brakes? :o:lol:

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Most likely, this has nothing to do with the original question, but I found it interesting as it relates to CVT trannsmissions.......a trusted Honda ASME certified Honda only repair shop owner I know recently stated to me, "No CVT transmission will EVER see 200,000 miles in a passenger car no matter how well it is maintained or how easily the car is driven."  He said the cones and "belt" simply cannot live that long which will necessitate a new transmission as the old cones and belt are too expensive to change compared to installing a new transmission.   I asked him about the CVTs in the new Honda CRVs.  He told me to keep my '98 CRV as it was better, cheaper to fix, and easier to diagnose and repair than any CRV made in the last 15 years.  Which could be said for most cars I would say.

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In all honesty, the car combination sounds better suited for a Lemons race. It is perfect for that series, and I believe you would have even more fun racing it at one of their events.

By all means, bring it to a Chumpcar race if you like, you will be welcomed here too.  But it is perfect for a Lemons event.

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Rented one. Probably the worst car on the planet. The first time I "hit" the brakes I thought I was going off the road (straight line on the freeway). NO as in NO power. The CVT drone will drive you crazy. The door handle broke off in my hand and it overheated on the way back to the airport. And it has NO power. Second worst car is a Ford Kugá diesel (it broke down on the way to the airport). The diesel engine was its only good  attributes until it stopped working. 

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On 10/15/2017 at 6:28 AM, Turd Ferguson said:

Most likely, this has nothing to do with the original question, but I found it interesting as it relates to CVT trannsmissions.......a trusted Honda ASME certified Honda only repair shop owner I know recently stated to me, "No CVT transmission will EVER see 200,000 miles in a passenger car no matter how well it is maintained or how easily the car is driven."  He said the cones and "belt" simply cannot live that long which will necessitate a new transmission as the old cones and belt are too expensive to change compared to installing a new transmission.   I asked him about the CVTs in the new Honda CRVs.  He told me to keep my '98 CRV as it was better, cheaper to fix, and easier to diagnose and repair than any CRV made in the last 15 years.  Which could be said for most cars I would say.

 

Sure. That's why my wife's Ford Freestyle had 208,000 miles on its CVT without as much as a hiccup, before my 16 year old daughter drove it headfirst into a New Jersey barrier.

 

Opinions, opinions....

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2 minutes ago, KDJones2000 said:

 

Sure. That's why my wife's Ford Freestyle had 208,000 miles on its CVT without as much as a hiccup, before my 16 year old daughter drove it headfirst into a New Jersey barrier.

 

Opinions, opinions....

Impressive.  I was interested in getting a Freestyle until I realized the CVT was the only transmission.  We had a 500 with the Aisin and loved it but needed more room.  

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27 minutes ago, KDJones2000 said:

 

Sure. That's why my wife's Ford Freestyle had 208,000 miles on its CVT without as much as a hiccup, before my 16 year old daughter drove it headfirst into a New Jersey barrier.

 

Opinions, opinions....

Good.  I'm happy you got good service out of it before it got modified by a barrier.  😀

 

On the flip side, a guy I know at work had a Freestyle with a CVT transmission.  The tranny died at 78k miles.  The Ford dealer said they didn't repair CVTs...they replaced them with rebuilt units.  The wanted $5k to install a rebuilt tranny...with no warranty.  So he traded it in on a Corrolla.  The Toyota dealer allowed him $800 on it.  

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