Administrators Bill Strong Posted January 18, 2018 Administrators Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 2018 ChampCar Endurance Series National Championship Qualifiers List Here it is! The point totals have been added up, checked, double checked and triple checked! It was even peer-reviewed by your fellow competitors! 75 cars qualify. Wait... Because 7 teams were tied at 12 points, the BOD allowed the top 80 teams into the National Championship! 80 teams! See if you qualified! National qualifiers will be allowed to register for the race immediately, on March 17, 2018 (90-days before the race), the registration will open up for everyone else to register for the race. 1.5. NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP An annual National Championship event will be held at a track designated by the CEO. The NCM Motorsports Park in Bowling Green, Kentucky was chosen for its central location and the 3.15-mile road course that was designed with challenging features that are reminiscent of the famous La Sarthe in Le Mans, France. 1.5.1. In order to qualify for the National Championship, a ChampCar team must: a. Finish in the top 80 in points for the previous season. b. Teams must compete in at least two (2) events in the previous season. 1.5.2. The winner of the National Championship: a. All qualified teams carry their top two (2) season finish points into the Championship. b. Finish points from the Championship will be added to the season point total. c. Lowest point total wins the National Championship. 1.5.3. Bring the same car you raced to qualify for the Championship. No replacement cars shall be considered qualified, including significant changes to otherwise qualified vehicles. 1.5.4. A minimum of TWO (2) original team drivers must be a part of the Championship team. 1.5.5. Championship events are NOT exclusive – anyone can enter. Click the link below to see if you qualified... 2017 ChampCar National Championship Qualifiers.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skierman64 Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 This a double 8 with park ferme overnight? Do the two original drivers have to have raced both the qualifying races or just have driven with the team in 2017? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Bill Strong Posted January 18, 2018 Author Administrators Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 D8, with Parc Ferme. Scored as one race. Two drivers do not have to drive in the same event in 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Advisory Committee NigelStu Posted January 18, 2018 Technical Advisory Committee Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 Do races in 2018 that occur before the Championship count for qualification? We qualified with 4 pts, but obviously can't bring the same car after the shunt at Road America that destroyed the car. It would suck if we can manage to score the points with the new car before the Championship, but not be considered "qualified" since its a new car and races were not completed in 2017... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Bill Strong Posted January 18, 2018 Author Administrators Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 Only 2017 races count towards the 2018 Championship. Only 2018 races count towards the 2019 Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jab31169 Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 Congrats to the teams that qualified!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDChristianson Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 7 minutes ago, NigelStu said: Do races in 2018 that occur before the Championship count for qualification? We qualified with 4 pts, but obviously can't bring the same car after the shunt at Road America that destroyed the car. It would suck if we can manage to score the points with the new car before the Championship, but not be considered "qualified" since its a new car and races were not completed in 2017... I've been wondering about how this would work out for your team. It would seem reasonable to me that if you rebuild the same car, same points and same mods you should get in on an execption. (With an e36 @500pts it would seem that you're bringing the same car.) Oh, seeming reasonable to me likely doesn't mean much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Advisory Committee Andrew D Johnson Posted January 18, 2018 Technical Advisory Committee Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 13 minutes ago, JDChristianson said: I've been wondering about how this would work out for your team. It would seem reasonable to me that if you rebuild the same car, same points and same mods you should get in on an execption. (With an e36 @500pts it would seem that you're bringing the same car.) Oh, seeming reasonable to me likely doesn't mean much. I think the "replacement car" that is not allowed would be if Ben replaced the E36 with something else like an E30 and wanted to use those points. Doing a body swap to another E36 should be no problem IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Bill Strong Posted January 18, 2018 Author Administrators Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 Per Michael Chisek Quote This is true. GWR totaled their car at WGI and then built a new identical car. All that changed was the color. This is legal as it's no different than a Cup car getting totaled at Daytona and them building a new car to the same specs. The team/driver keeps their points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDChristianson Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 12 minutes ago, red0 said: I think the "replacement car" that is not allowed would be if Ben replaced the E36 with something else like an E30 and wanted to use those points. Doing a body swap to another E36 should be no problem IMO. Agree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvumtnbkr Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 I would be sooo much more interested in going if we had a chance. Starting 5 points down is gonna be impossible to make the podium... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotrod Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 Any chance ChampCar will give out Class Championships instead of just overall? Seems that 60 or so cars don't have a chance when there are so many teams with such a low point total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Bill Strong Posted January 18, 2018 Author Administrators Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 8 minutes ago, wvumtnbkr said: I would be sooo much more interested in going if we had a chance. Starting 5 points down is gonna be impossible to make the podium... With that attitude, you have already lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDChristianson Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 8 minutes ago, wvumtnbkr said: I would be sooo much more interested in going if we had a chance. Starting 5 points down is gonna be impossible to make the podium... Not in the race. Maybe in the points thing but so? You get to run against all them team that are serious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvumtnbkr Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Bill Strong said: With that attitude, you have already lost. Yeah, because even if we win, ALL of the fast cars need to be 6th or worse. Not real likely. I would vote for the winner is the winner. This ain't NASCAR. 2 minutes ago, JDChristianson said: Not in the race. Maybe in the points thing but so? You get to run against all them team that are serious It's gonna be the same teams we already race against every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDChristianson Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 At risk of getting in trouble with my team....I'm going to throw this out there. This race should be started in points order. All the 2's the 3's then 4's and so on. My motivation? Not getting our car run over, squished and smashed in the first 1/2 hour be some wild eyed 3 point team that drew 80 for a starting position. I really want our car to be running without new dents at the end of 16 hours. edited for poor typing skill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Advisory Committee Andrew D Johnson Posted January 18, 2018 Technical Advisory Committee Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 Just now, JDChristianson said: At risk of getting in trouble with my team....I'm going to throw this out there. This race should be started in points order. All the 2's the 3's then 4's and so on. My motivation? Not getting our car run over, squished and smashed in the first 1/2 hour be some wild eyed team 3 point team that drew 80 for a starting position. I'd really want our car to be running without new dents at the end of 16 hours. I like the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDChristianson Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, wvumtnbkr said: Yeah, because even if we win, ALL of the fast cars need to be 6th or worse. Not real likely. I would vote for the winner is the winner. This ain't NASCAR. It's gonna be the same teams we already race against every year. Sounds like a money saving opportunity for you. Kicking back and listening to the racecast crew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moortom Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 1 minute ago, JDChristianson said: At risk of getting in trouble with my team....I'm going to throw this out there. This race should be started in points order. All the 2's the 3's then 4's and so on. My motivation? Not getting our car run over, squished and smashed in the first 1/2 hour be some wild eyed team 3 point team that drew 80 for a starting position. I'd really want our car to be running without new dents at the end of 16 hours. As with any race, I imagine the folks who don't want to dice it up at the start can elect to line up at the back of the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Advisory Committee Andrew D Johnson Posted January 18, 2018 Technical Advisory Committee Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 6 minutes ago, hotrod said: Any chance ChampCar will give out Class Championships instead of just overall? Seems that 60 or so cars don't have a chance when there are so many teams with such a low point total. Class championships like EC and Champ class? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Advisory Committee Andrew D Johnson Posted January 18, 2018 Technical Advisory Committee Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 Just now, moortom said: As with any race, I imagine the folks who don't want to dice it up at the start can elect to line up at the back of the field. I thought they got rid of that option this year. You now have a set starting spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDChristianson Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, red0 said: I thought they got rid of that option this year. You now have a set starting spot. I think if say your a brand new team or driver not wanting to start at the front you can just hang out and wait for the field to go by on pit lane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Bill Strong Posted January 18, 2018 Author Administrators Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 I believe the Race Director already has that sorted. You guys just get the cars prepped, and get ready to race! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moortom Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 @red0 That wasn't the case at the three events I went to in 2017. At all of them people were able to wait and line up in the back. Even at Pitt where starting spots were based on pit stall if you wanted to you could just wait for the field to pull out of pit lane and then follow them. Anyway, I don't think that they are going to hold up the rest of the field if you just don't get in your car in time. If there is a rule against it I don't see how it would be enforceable unless they were going to disqualify cars who don't line up right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Advisory Committee Andrew D Johnson Posted January 18, 2018 Technical Advisory Committee Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, moortom said: @red0 That wasn't the case at the three events I went to in 2017. At all of them people were able to wait and line up in the back. Even at Pitt where starting spots were based on pit stall if you wanted to you could just wait for the field to pull out of pit lane and then follow them. Anyway, I don't think that they are going to hold up the rest of the field if you just don't get in your car in time. If there is a rule against it I don't see how it would be enforceable unless they were going to disqualify cars who don't line up right. Thanks for the clarification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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