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Event Supplemental Rules and Event Information
https://champcar.org/register/supplementalrules/360.pdf

Entries for The Thunderhill Grand Prix

updated April 25, 2018

    Team Name Car # Year Make Model
1.   Arsenic Racing 116 1996 Mazda Miata
2.   Blown My Wad 135 1994 BMW 325 IS
3.   crash test mummies 444 2003 ford focus
4.   MIBB 147 1987 1987 BMW
5.   mr. angry motorsports 7 1992 mazda miata
6.   No Gray Matter Racing 255 1991 Honda CRX Si
7.   Open Source Autosport 919 1973 Porsche 914
8.   Porsche Defectors 930 1987 BMW E30
9.   Roto Plooker Racing 37 1990 Mazda RX7
10.   Rusty Cage Racing 133 1989 Pontiac Firebird
11.   Son of Andre 160 1989 Ford Mustang
12.   Team FOG 420   Mazda Miata
13.   Triple Apex Racing 581 2007 Toyota Yaris
14.   Wilwood 119 1999 Mazda Miata
15.   Wir Underwater und Wir Sinking About It 161 1989 Honda CRX
 
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If you look at the Thunderhill website and go to "Open Test Days" you will not find May 4th as one of the advertised dates. However, if you go to the Events Calendar, there is an open test on the 2 mile track listed as "prior to the Champ Car weekend race". Price is $249 with $100 per additional driver. I don't know if that's the real price though. If you look at the open test on the 5 mile track 2 weeks later (right before the Lemons weekend) the price is stated as $349 plus $149 for additional drivers. But every time I've done the Lemons test day, the initial $349 covers TWO drivers. So it may be that it's $249 for TWO drivers not one. I don't think there's very good communication between the website, desk, and phone personnel (even though I think some of them are the same people).

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According to the supplementals, there is no test day on the schedule. In other words, the price you pay ChampCar does not include a test day. 

 

https://champcar.org/register/supplementalrules/360.pdf

 

I would call the track directly and ask about a test day on Friday: 530-934-5588

 

Hope that helps. 

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40 minutes ago, Jamie said:

I was disappointed that this race will me the 2 mile config and unfortunately it looks like I'm not the only one https://champcar.org/register/entrantlist.php?eventid=360

 

ChumpCar was last at Thunderhill in 2016, when they ran 2 races. The 2 mile track drew ~20 cars and the 3 mile track drew ~10. In 2015, CC ran the 3 mile and about 20 cars showed up. I know a lot of people prefer the 3 mile to the 2 mile, but there are bigger problems than which track is run. In addition to the LDRL race at WSI, the Lemons race at Thunderhill is 2 weeks after the CC Race, which will also help deplete the pool. I'm still planning on going to the CC race though. At $750 and low car counts, it's a good way to give new teammates a try.

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34 minutes ago, Alchemy Autosport said:

LDRL also has the Big Willow event that overlaps the same weekend...  This is going to be a weak car count for both events i think...

 

I went to Big Willow one time. It was too hot in May. Also, the track isn't very interesting and eats tires. Once was probably enough for me.

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1 hour ago, drKorf said:

 

I went to Big Willow one time. It was too hot in May. Also, the track isn't very interesting and eats tires. Once was probably enough for me.

How unsafe is it? Last corner seems sketchy 

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@Jamie - Are you coming to Thill with the Flyin' Hawaiians? And don't be negative on the 2-mile. Yeah we would really love to do the 5-mile but until we can pull the numbers.... this is the best we can do. We love it enough and are planning to go to Thunderhill; we just haven't registered yet. 

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5 hours ago, FlorahDorah said:

@Jamie - Are you coming to Thill with the Flyin' Hawaiians? And don't be negative on the 2-mile. Yeah we would really love to do the 5-mile but until we can pull the numbers.... this is the best we can do. We love it enough and are planning to go to Thunderhill; we just haven't registered yet. 

Everything is TBD. I love champcar and do everything I can to promote it but my interest in this race is low. I’ve done 2 thill races with champ, the 3 and 2 mile config but I have a funny feeling about this one... 

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20 hours ago, drKorf said:

 

ChumpCar was last at Thunderhill in 2016, when they ran 2 races. The 2 mile track drew ~20 cars and the 3 mile track drew ~10. In 2015, CC ran the 3 mile and about 20 cars showed up. I know a lot of people prefer the 3 mile to the 2 mile, but there are bigger problems than which track is run. In addition to the LDRL race at WSI, the Lemons race at Thunderhill is 2 weeks after the CC Race, which will also help deplete the pool. I'm still planning on going to the CC race though. At $750 and low car counts, it's a good way to give new teammates a try.

I would have planned to go if they'd done the 3 mile.  I've already done the 2 mile and need time on the 3 mile in advance of the LDRL championship later this year.

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20 hours ago, drKorf said:

 

I went to Big Willow one time. It was too hot in May. Also, the track isn't very interesting and eats tires. Once was probably enough for me.

I wonder why it eats tires.  Track surface? High speed turns?  I've been told this track was made for my high horsepower car so really looking forward to it.

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18 hours ago, Jamie said:

How unsafe is it? Last corner seems sketchy 

 

I would say medium safety. There aren't that many things to hit near the track, but if you leave the track, even with 2 wheels, it can get nasty. One of my drivers dropped 2 wheels and coming back on, the ledge was so severe that he broke the suspension. The last corner is decreasing radius but doesn't really look it as you approach. Adequate drivers shouldn't have a problem with it but novices and red-misted drivers could get run out of track on the outside.

20 minutes ago, lenbo211 said:

I wonder why it eats tires.  Track surface? High speed turns?  I've been told this track was made for my high horsepower car so really looking forward to it.

 

Track surface. It's like they put sea shells in there. Tire wear was like 2x what I'm used to. But then again, I'm spoiled by Thunderhill and Sonoma.

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National Championship points.

$750.

I travel 12+ hours to race. This would be like racing next door. 
I fact, my family is coming out to test some super cool ChampCar.Live tech. They live in Oroville.

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22 hours ago, Jamie said:

How unsafe is it? Last corner seems sketchy 

 

You would be fine. It's a fun, really fast track. They keep the outside of 9 pretty well maintained, so if you overcook it a bit you're alright as long as you can deal with the paved to desert transition. There are some pretty nasty washouts on the edges of the corners up on the hill, but generally they're in areas you'd never put a wheel off.

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19 hours ago, drKorf said:

 

Track surface. It's like they put sea shells in there. Tire wear was like 2x what I'm used to. But then again, I'm spoiled by Thunderhill and Sonoma.

Good to know. I always bring extra tires, but I'll watch wear earlier than normal.

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