Ian Moone Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 Event Supplemental Rules and Event Informationhttps://champcar.org/register/supplementalrules/360.pdf Entries for The Thunderhill Grand Prix updated April 25, 2018 Team Name Car # Year Make Model 1. Arsenic Racing 116 1996 Mazda Miata 2. Blown My Wad 135 1994 BMW 325 IS 3. crash test mummies 444 2003 ford focus 4. MIBB 147 1987 1987 BMW 5. mr. angry motorsports 7 1992 mazda miata 6. No Gray Matter Racing 255 1991 Honda CRX Si 7. Open Source Autosport 919 1973 Porsche 914 8. Porsche Defectors 930 1987 BMW E30 9. Roto Plooker Racing 37 1990 Mazda RX7 10. Rusty Cage Racing 133 1989 Pontiac Firebird 11. Son of Andre 160 1989 Ford Mustang 12. Team FOG 420 Mazda Miata 13. Triple Apex Racing 581 2007 Toyota Yaris 14. Wilwood 119 1999 Mazda Miata 15. Wir Underwater und Wir Sinking About It 161 1989 Honda CRX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drKorf Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 If you look at the Thunderhill website and go to "Open Test Days" you will not find May 4th as one of the advertised dates. However, if you go to the Events Calendar, there is an open test on the 2 mile track listed as "prior to the Champ Car weekend race". Price is $249 with $100 per additional driver. I don't know if that's the real price though. If you look at the open test on the 5 mile track 2 weeks later (right before the Lemons weekend) the price is stated as $349 plus $149 for additional drivers. But every time I've done the Lemons test day, the initial $349 covers TWO drivers. So it may be that it's $249 for TWO drivers not one. I don't think there's very good communication between the website, desk, and phone personnel (even though I think some of them are the same people). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlorahDorah Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 According to the supplementals, there is no test day on the schedule. In other words, the price you pay ChampCar does not include a test day. https://champcar.org/register/supplementalrules/360.pdf I would call the track directly and ask about a test day on Friday: 530-934-5588 Hope that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchemy Autosport Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 Y'all kids have fun at this one! We will join you one of these days for a Thill race... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Bill Strong Posted February 27, 2018 Administrators Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 Guy,,, I had a meeting with Thunderhill and will be updating the supps this morning. Yes there is a test day and the above prices are correct. Price is $249 with $100 per additional driver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Bill Strong Posted February 27, 2018 Administrators Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 Updated Supplementals are now uploaded and live. Please re-download https://champcar.org/register/supplementalrules/360.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvumtnbkr Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 Why are we talking about a race 90 years in the future? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmabarone Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 11 minutes ago, wvumtnbkr said: Why are we talking about a race 90 years in the future? Oh great, another change in the supps... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlorahDorah Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Bill Strong said: Updated Supplementals are now uploaded and live. Please re-download https://champcar.org/register/supplementalrules/360.pdf Um.... Looks like you just re-uploaded the old version as I don't see anything about a test day on Friday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 I was disappointed that this race will me the 2 mile config and unfortunately it looks like I'm not the only one https://champcar.org/register/entrantlist.php?eventid=360 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchemy Autosport Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 LDRL also has the Big Willow event that overlaps the same weekend... This is going to be a weak car count for both events i think... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drKorf Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 40 minutes ago, Jamie said: I was disappointed that this race will me the 2 mile config and unfortunately it looks like I'm not the only one https://champcar.org/register/entrantlist.php?eventid=360 ChumpCar was last at Thunderhill in 2016, when they ran 2 races. The 2 mile track drew ~20 cars and the 3 mile track drew ~10. In 2015, CC ran the 3 mile and about 20 cars showed up. I know a lot of people prefer the 3 mile to the 2 mile, but there are bigger problems than which track is run. In addition to the LDRL race at WSI, the Lemons race at Thunderhill is 2 weeks after the CC Race, which will also help deplete the pool. I'm still planning on going to the CC race though. At $750 and low car counts, it's a good way to give new teammates a try. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drKorf Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 34 minutes ago, Alchemy Autosport said: LDRL also has the Big Willow event that overlaps the same weekend... This is going to be a weak car count for both events i think... I went to Big Willow one time. It was too hot in May. Also, the track isn't very interesting and eats tires. Once was probably enough for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlorahDorah Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 I believe the Roto-Plookers will be there. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 1 hour ago, drKorf said: I went to Big Willow one time. It was too hot in May. Also, the track isn't very interesting and eats tires. Once was probably enough for me. How unsafe is it? Last corner seems sketchy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchemy Autosport Posted February 28, 2018 Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 Somehow, I havent run either track but based on looking at the layouts and talking to people, Thill is a much better track. Buuuuut I still think car counts will be tough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlorahDorah Posted February 28, 2018 Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 @Jamie - Are you coming to Thill with the Flyin' Hawaiians? And don't be negative on the 2-mile. Yeah we would really love to do the 5-mile but until we can pull the numbers.... this is the best we can do. We love it enough and are planning to go to Thunderhill; we just haven't registered yet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Posted February 28, 2018 Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 5 hours ago, FlorahDorah said: @Jamie - Are you coming to Thill with the Flyin' Hawaiians? And don't be negative on the 2-mile. Yeah we would really love to do the 5-mile but until we can pull the numbers.... this is the best we can do. We love it enough and are planning to go to Thunderhill; we just haven't registered yet. Everything is TBD. I love champcar and do everything I can to promote it but my interest in this race is low. I’ve done 2 thill races with champ, the 3 and 2 mile config but I have a funny feeling about this one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenbo211 Posted February 28, 2018 Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 20 hours ago, drKorf said: ChumpCar was last at Thunderhill in 2016, when they ran 2 races. The 2 mile track drew ~20 cars and the 3 mile track drew ~10. In 2015, CC ran the 3 mile and about 20 cars showed up. I know a lot of people prefer the 3 mile to the 2 mile, but there are bigger problems than which track is run. In addition to the LDRL race at WSI, the Lemons race at Thunderhill is 2 weeks after the CC Race, which will also help deplete the pool. I'm still planning on going to the CC race though. At $750 and low car counts, it's a good way to give new teammates a try. I would have planned to go if they'd done the 3 mile. I've already done the 2 mile and need time on the 3 mile in advance of the LDRL championship later this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenbo211 Posted February 28, 2018 Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 20 hours ago, drKorf said: I went to Big Willow one time. It was too hot in May. Also, the track isn't very interesting and eats tires. Once was probably enough for me. I wonder why it eats tires. Track surface? High speed turns? I've been told this track was made for my high horsepower car so really looking forward to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drKorf Posted February 28, 2018 Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 18 hours ago, Jamie said: How unsafe is it? Last corner seems sketchy I would say medium safety. There aren't that many things to hit near the track, but if you leave the track, even with 2 wheels, it can get nasty. One of my drivers dropped 2 wheels and coming back on, the ledge was so severe that he broke the suspension. The last corner is decreasing radius but doesn't really look it as you approach. Adequate drivers shouldn't have a problem with it but novices and red-misted drivers could get run out of track on the outside. 20 minutes ago, lenbo211 said: I wonder why it eats tires. Track surface? High speed turns? I've been told this track was made for my high horsepower car so really looking forward to it. Track surface. It's like they put sea shells in there. Tire wear was like 2x what I'm used to. But then again, I'm spoiled by Thunderhill and Sonoma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Bill Strong Posted February 28, 2018 Administrators Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 National Championship points. $750. I travel 12+ hours to race. This would be like racing next door. I fact, my family is coming out to test some super cool ChampCar.Live tech. They live in Oroville. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAMR2 Posted February 28, 2018 Report Share Posted February 28, 2018 22 hours ago, Jamie said: How unsafe is it? Last corner seems sketchy You would be fine. It's a fun, really fast track. They keep the outside of 9 pretty well maintained, so if you overcook it a bit you're alright as long as you can deal with the paved to desert transition. There are some pretty nasty washouts on the edges of the corners up on the hill, but generally they're in areas you'd never put a wheel off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenbo211 Posted March 1, 2018 Report Share Posted March 1, 2018 19 hours ago, drKorf said: Track surface. It's like they put sea shells in there. Tire wear was like 2x what I'm used to. But then again, I'm spoiled by Thunderhill and Sonoma. Good to know. I always bring extra tires, but I'll watch wear earlier than normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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