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1.2.1. The BCCR shall govern all ChampCar events sanctioned by ChampCar. ChampCar may revise the BCCR or issue supplements to it, and all rules stated herein may be amended at any given time, in writing or verbally at any event (and put in writing at a later time), at the sole discretion of ChampCar, based on maintaining safety, equity in competition, cost reduction or clarification.The interpretation and application of the ChampCar Basic Club & Competition Rules by ChampCar officials shall be final and binding

1.3.6. Unsafe Vehicles: At ChampCar’s sole discretion, any car may be determined unsafe for competition and may be removed from the event at any time.

3.5.1. All competition cars must have an SFI-approved window net mounted to the cage of the car only.

3.5.2. SFI-CERTIFIED ARM RESTRAINTS OR ROOF NETS ARE REQUIRED in all open (convertible) cars and/or cars with t-tops or sunroof openings.

 

SFI SPECIFICATION 27.1 EFFECTIVE: OCTOBER 11, 2006*

PRODUCT: Window Nets

2.3 The useful life of the Window Net shall not exceed two years and must be replaced at or before that time.

 

(Rules revision) 

Champcar will allow the use of window nets, arm restraints, and roof nets for four calendar years, the same as we do for seat belts.

SFI harnesses list a year of manufacture, and are good until December 31st four years from that year. FIA harnesses expire on December 31st of the year of expiration sewn into harness. Any attempt to modify the date(s) on any belt are grounds for immediate team disqualification, without recourse or refund.

 

This will be written into the BCR along with any other updates after the review of the petitions by the board. 

 

Phil McKinney

Director Tech & Safety  

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Awesome! Thanks Phil!

As I said, not trying to be negative by harping about this. As I said in the VIR post, I got a text from friends that were racing at VIR over the weekend, and they had no idea their window net wouldn't be sufficient, because it was never stated in the rules. I had been singing the praises of what a great series Champcar is vs. the series they had mostly planned to run in. Their experience at tech raised some question and confusion to them, so I was hoping that a simple update to the rules would prevent confusion like they experienced, form happening in the future.

Thanks for your attention and prompt update to the BCCR @Mopar 63.

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No they didn't tell me the date on their nets, only that they didn't think the date mattered, since they didn't see window net dates specified in the BCCR. It's great that this update will eliminate that type of thinking.

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Had the same issue with an expired net in 2017, original net had been on the car since 2011 and ChumpCar rules had never required a date on window nets in prior years, only after we started seeing East region techs in the central region. It felt a bit "inconsistent" to me that my car that had been legal for the previous 6 years (several of which it got inspected at every race) was in question when there wasn't any material change to the rule by my understanding. That said, the one-race tech sticker was a fair solution and I don't see why that would concern a new team, it is a safety issue after all. I'll stand behind anything that brings clarity to the BCCR though :)

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On 3/5/2018 at 8:49 AM, Mopar 63 said:

all rules stated herein may be amended at any given time, in writing or verbally at any event (and put in writing at a later time), at the sole discretion of ChampCar, based on maintaining safety, equity in competition, cost reduction or clarification.

 

Is it just me, or does this clause sound just a bit too authoritarian? It does require that instant rule changes get put into the rule book at the next update right?

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Is it just me, or does this clause sound just a bit too authoritarian? It does require that instant rule changes get put into the rule book at the next update right?

Nope.  At a later date could be 18 years from now...

 

Rules shouldnt be that authoritarian and have no clear concise action plan for follow up.

 

I get it.  They need the ability to smack us dumbwits down when we do something incredibly stupid that is not currently covered in the rulebook.  However, a list of possible communication plans should also be in place.  

 

For example, if a rule gets changed enacted, etc during a race weekend, the new ruling WILL be communicated during the drivers meeting and WILL be updated in the BCR within 1 month and an email to team captains WILL be sent out within 1 week explaining the change.

 

 

I am being nit-picky.  I know that.

 

 

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13 minutes ago, wvumtnbkr said:

Nope.  At a later date could be 18 years from now...

 

Rules shouldnt be that authoritarian and have no clear concise action plan for follow up.

 

I get it.  They need the ability to smack us dumbwits down when we do something incredibly stupid that is not currently covered in the rulebook.  However, a list of possible communication plans should also be in place.  

 

For example, if a rule gets changed enacted, etc during a race weekend, the new ruling WILL be communicated during the drivers meeting and WILL be updated in the BCR within 1 month and an email to team captains WILL be sent out within 1 week explaining the change.

 

 

I am being nit-picky.  I know that.

 

 

 

No, I would say that is a pretty good nit to pick.

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Just went thru this with a new team i am helping. I think it should be ok for tech to just update the rules, send an email to all registered chump members. That way if you download the rules each time you have a question you are always getting the latest answer. This is how nascar does their rules.

 

I don't think a 2009 side window was out of the norm, so i would suggest an update in the online rules right away. Mine dates back to spec neon days, and is possibly old enough to drive now. Passed tech 2011 to 2016....

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@Mopar 63 and others.

 

As an FYI and question, I just received my new window net and SFI label has changed. No longer has a 'start' or 'build' date; instead it has only a "good until" date.  

 

Same net/manufacturer.  

 

 

How will these labels be handled, end date plus 2 years?  Rule should be updated to reflect new label.

 

 

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