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I was thinking last night about trying to start a thread where points or rules have no reason to be discussed.  And it hit me, since driver comfort/aids are open there should be absolutely NO discussion about claiming points or rules.

 

So, lets see those interiors.  I'm all about tidy and functional driver spaces and love to poach ideas from other racers.  There are some really creative guys/gals on here so lets see what you've done/used past, present and future.  Gauges, tablet mounts, pedals, coolsuit mounts, radio installs, etc etc.  I'll get some pics of our interior this weekend.

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Reworking the foam under the seat cover to make the seat VERY comfortable.

 

Grip tape on the floor by the drivers feet

 

Foot rest / dead pedal

 

Lots of insulation to keep heat out of drivers feet

 

Cool SEAT

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27 minutes ago, enginerd said:

Quickcar switch panel with push button start. 

What about that easily removable instrument cluster?

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3 hours ago, wvumtnbkr said:

Reworking the foam under the seat cover to make the seat VERY comfortable.

 

Grip tape on the floor by the drivers feet

 

Foot rest / dead pedal

 

Lots of insulation to keep heat out of drivers feet

 

Cool SEAT

What did you do for insulation? Inside or under the car? I am running the old school NASCAR "Boom Tubes" on the Charger I am building and know I am going to have to insulate that as well. 

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1 hour ago, mcoppola said:

What about that easily removable instrument cluster?

Instrument clusters should not be so easily removed that they fall out mid-stint. Sure was funny when the driver pulled into the pits and handed me the cluster out the window.

 

I do not recommend easily removable instrument clusters as a driver aid / mod.

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1 hour ago, VegasNick said:

What did you do for insulation? Inside or under the car? I am running the old school NASCAR "Boom Tubes" on the Charger I am building and know I am going to have to insulate that as well. 

that silver reflective quilt stuff from lowes depot racing on the inside all around the driver.  it doesnt burn.

 

also, header wrap on the exhaust closest to driver.

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Sorry about the blurry pictures. Keep in mind I did the interior in 2012 when the cars were supposed to be chumpy. Now that there's no stigma attached to doing a nice job I may clean it up a fair bit.

 

Dead pedal and leveled floor, extension on brake pedal for heel and toe, friction tape on brake and throttle:

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Gauges set in 1/3 of a round tube with 1/2" square tube pedestals, switch panels, fuse box mounted where I can diagnose systems from the driver's seat (not while driving!). Two very bright red shift lights beside tach wired to water pressure switch (3 psi) and oil pressure switch (30 psi). Cigarette lighter/power outlet beside master switch, yellow shift light for low fuel, intermittent wiper switch mounted beside it:

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Exposed fuel filler hose on fuel cell, double clamped on both ends, self-adhesive mini LED lights, one on console for driver, one mounted under the filler tube so the refueler can see the fuel level at night (visible behind the shift knob):

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Dryer duct in roof blasting air over driver with snap on cover in event of rain, bright interior lights with switch driver can reach easily should car stop in dark on course, clock on dash, transponder number on dash so anyone on crew can find if needed.  Hi-lo function on stalk operational to drop off some lights when following other cars closely, something I think should be mandatory given the wide array of excessively bright, improperly aimed lights lots of cars seem to run.

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5 hours ago, mender said:

Oh, yes: I replaced the slow manual Fiero steering rack with a WS6 quick ratio power steering rack. Was points but is now driver comfort and rates as one of the best mods I made to the car.

 

I have had requests from renters for power steering, I tell them to work out more. With a straight face.  I also had a request for more assist in the brakes, but since we don't have problems with flat spots, and our lap times are toward the pointy end,  that ain't happening either. On other cars I have raced with boosted brakes, flat spots were a constant issue with some drivers. As it is we have never had to fix a power steering pump or a vacuum booster, and never will unless something changes.

 

We added a lap timer to the car, but I think it might have something to do with a spate of offs at last race... it might come out.

 

I really like all the low pressure sensors hooked up to shift lights... thinking about copying that.

 

Also, roof vent and cold air blower into helmet are on the copy list.

 

Good thread.

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6 hours ago, CBraden said:

I have had requests from renters for power steering, I tell them to work out more. With a straight face.  I also had a request for more assist in the brakes, but since we don't have problems with flat spots, and our lap times are toward the pointy end,  that ain't happening either. On other cars I have raced with boosted brakes, flat spots were a constant issue with some drivers. As it is we have never had to fix a power steering pump or a vacuum booster, and never will unless something changes.

I've never had to fix my power steering or power brakes either. The Trans Am rack has very good feel and likely helps my drivers be a little faster because they're not fighting the wheel.

 

Two hours in my car is not tiring, and even in my three layer driver suit and no coolshirt I don't start to sweat until after the first hour on hot days (80s-90s). Being fresh at the end of my stint helps me and my drivers stay fast.

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6 hours ago, CBraden said:

cold air blower into helmet are on the copy list

Easy to do if you already have a cool suit setup: 12v bilge blower, cheap ebay air-to-water intercooler, a couple of hose adapters, and run it off your shirt water. It's wonderful.

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6 hours ago, CBraden said:

I really like all the low pressure sensors hooked up to shift lights... thinking about copying that.

If you do, keep the translucent caps like the one on my fuel low warning light to put on for night racing; the shift lights are bright enough to be blinding in the dark.

 

To actuate the lights, I used adjustable Hobbs switches set appropriately. One side of the switch goes to ground, the other to a relay (terminal 86). 12v to the relay (terminals 85 and 87) then power out to the light (terminal 30).

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I am thinking about building a new car and don’t plan to install any discrete gages or lights at all. The price of digital dashes has been steadily decreasing and I would never go back to a car without an aftermarket ECU. MS3Pro Ultimate has 12 analog inputs, using generic GM temp and pressure sensors I can monitor anything I want and display it on the dash via CAN. In the long run it wouldn’t be any more expensive than installing a bunch of gauges and it would make the wiring so much simpler. The dash area wouldn’t be a jumble of wires and hoses, and I could program any display or warning light that I wanted.

 

 

It may be blasphemy to the faithful but my vision is a BMW without a single inch of original German wiring in it.
 

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12 minutes ago, enginerd said:

What other color would it be?

 

Granted it’s the only car I’ve done wiring on, but I really like how the BMW e30 is wired. 

Black, duh!  Next you are going to tell me that we need to use the metric system because it makes more sense.  

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large.image.jpeg.d7c2e8e13a6a66d2c9d2bc0a9cedd1f3.jpegJust the basics here (so far...)

stock instrument cluster, headlight switch, etc. we added 4 gauges, 2 idiot lights, master kill switch and fire bottle pull handle (might not have been installed before these pics.) 

I like to keep things simple, but will probably go with a digital dash or tablet in the future it on the next car. Oh, and I absolutely Hate shoddy wiring. 

 

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11 hours ago, mcoppola said:

large.image.jpeg.d7c2e8e13a6a66d2c9d2bc0a9cedd1f3.jpegJust the basics here (so far...)

stock instrument cluster, headlight switch, etc. we added 4 gauges, 2 idiot lights, master kill switch and fire bottle pull handle (might not have been installed before these pics.) 

I like to keep things simple, but will probably go with a digital dash or tablet in the future it on the next car. Oh, and I absolutely Hate shoddy wiring. 

 

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Dang, that wiring is incredible. Bravo sir.

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