SiberianDVM Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 2009 Porsche Cayenne Turbo S will need brake rotors soon. Front rotors (380mm x 38mm) .........$805. Each. Rear rotors almost seem a bargain at $112. I may just keep replacing the pads......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommytipover Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 Used to work for a VW dealer. Pretty sure that at any given time, every VW Touareg either needs $2000 worth of brakes or tires. They are hungry hippos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 Cheaper on TireRack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snorman Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 That's the price you pay for driving one of them high falutin German cars. S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiberianDVM Posted March 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, Snorman said: That's the price you pay for driving one of them high falutin German cars. S. 1 hour ago, Snake said: Cheaper on TireRack 1 hour ago, tommytipover said: Used to work for a VW dealer. Pretty sure that at any given time, every VW Touareg either needs $2000 worth of brakes or tires. They are hungry hippos. I'm sort of used to the P-tax, but I can't see how a 330 mm Cayenne rotor can be $100, a 350 mm Cayenne rotor can be $150, and a 380 mm Cayenne rotor is $800. They are phenomenal brakes, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronh911 Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 The 380s are 2 piece rotors, the others are not. Buying them from PCNA gets you a 2 year unlimited mileage warranty. Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiberianDVM Posted March 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 8 minutes ago, Ronh911 said: The 380s are 2 piece rotors, the others are not. Buying them from PCNA gets you a 2 year unlimited mileage warranty. Ron That's part of what I don't get. Shouldn't a 2 piece rotor be cheaper, since you can reuse the hat? Except that all of these 380s are sold only as complete replacements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronh911 Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 Correct, we only sell them as complete units. We use the 2 piece to lower unsprung weight and rotational mass. You can get them cheaper aftermarket but like you said “the brakes are phenomenal”. Remember, that is a 550HP beast you have! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron_e Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 There would be a lot more precision machining to a two piece plus two different materials and mounting hardware... saying this not knowing what a Cayenne two piece looks like but I know what mine look like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiberianDVM Posted March 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 http://www.wilwood.com/Rotors/RotorList1.aspx This obviously doesn't fit my car, but it's a darn close match in size and specs, and half the price. Is German steel and machining that much better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron_e Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 Because Poor-sche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bremsen Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 Technically, the brakes are Italian. But, yes, quality iron, machined aluminum to the .001" and the attachment hardware all add up. $800/side for a 380mm 2-pc iron disc is not out of whack at all. If that puts a knot in your stomach, don't go looking at the PCCB replacement prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiberianDVM Posted March 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 9 minutes ago, Bremsen said: Technically, the brakes are Italian. But, yes, quality iron, machined aluminum to the .001" and the attachment hardware all add up. $800/side for a 380mm 2-pc iron disc is not out of whack at all. If that puts a knot in your stomach, don't go looking at the PCCB replacement prices. Oh, I'm well aware of the PCCB kool-aid. I'm just saying, an equivalent Wilwood 2-pc steel rotor is half the price. It's probably not worth Wilwoods time to machine a thousand rotors for the Turbo S models, but I sure wish they would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron_e Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 It would be hard for Wilwood to compete with Poorsche fanatics that insist on all Poorsche parts not wanting to dilute the purity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEE DEE Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 I had Coleman race products make rotors for my Porsche 911 (not the twin turbo). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bremsen Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 Yeah, but that's just the iron. Porsche doesn't think its owners are capable of assembling their own discs (or maybe think they don't have the desire to), apparently, so you're stuck buying the complete assembly. When you add a couple-three hundred for each hat plus bobbins/hardware I don't think the P-tax is all that high on those. IMO, the biggest problem is that Porsche/Brembo still seem to think that drilling (or casting as it may be) holes into their iron discs is still a thing. I guess since they're still trying to perfect the beetle, using brakes from 1984 isn't totally out of character, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronh911 Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 3 hours ago, Bremsen said: Yeah, but that's just the iron. Porsche doesn't think its owners are capable of assembling their own discs (or maybe think they don't have the desire to), apparently, so you're stuck buying the complete assembly. When you add a couple-three hundred for each hat plus bobbins/hardware I don't think the P-tax is all that high on those. IMO, the biggest problem is that Porsche/Brembo still seem to think that drilling (or casting as it may be) holes into their iron discs is still a thing. I guess since they're still trying to perfect the beetle, using brakes from 1984 isn't totally out of character, lol. https://blog.caranddriver.com/in-depth-with-the-2019-porsche-cayennes-tungsten-carbide-coated-brakes/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bremsen Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 Look Ma, no holes! All because customers don't want dust on their wheels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Advisory Committee Andrew D Johnson Posted March 26, 2018 Technical Advisory Committee Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 1990 Honda Civic Si Front: $10.85 Rear: $8.87 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiberianDVM Posted March 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 27 minutes ago, red0 said: 1990 Honda Civic Si Front: $10.85 Rear: $8.87 Thank you. I feel so much better now. Of course, in order to get the stopping power the Cayenne needs, I would have to weld an entire Civic Si to each strut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Advisory Committee Andrew D Johnson Posted March 26, 2018 Technical Advisory Committee Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 1 hour ago, SiberianDVM said: Thank you. I feel so much better now. Of course, in order to get the stopping power the Cayenne needs, I would have to weld an entire Civic Si to each strut. It would still be cheaper than buying new rotors, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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