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Sampson Racing Communications used to be the preferred Chumpcar radio supplier.

A couple years back, Racing Radios took over that spot, but Sampson continues to provide discounts to Champcar teams, and has a very good product line.

https://www.sampsonracing.com/digital-racing-radios-kits-s/1978.htm

 

Here's a write up I did about our experience buying a radio system.

https://forum.champcar.org/topic/17520-racequip-gear/?do=findComment&comment=362994

 

@Shawn Sampson

 

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2 hours ago, shields8 said:

A combintion of the Sampson harnesses and Baofeng Radios are the way to go. The Baofengs are high power and incredibly high quality for a very low price.

 

 

Haha he said Baofeng and high quality in the same sentence...

 

We use Baofeng radios, I would say they are decent quality for the price if you are nice to them...  they will not survive like a Motorola or even Kenwood commercial piece, but are more than usable if you are the programmer type (IE dont mind programming radios, and understand the license requirements and laws you may or may not be complying with).

 

The biggest problem we have found (I use Baofeng stuff) is the accessories, buttons, antenna extenders, 12v power..  itsnt really all that suited for race cars, and is of that low enough chinese quality that you have to troubleshoot, repair and replace regularly...   it does at least make us want something better in the car....   for the hand held pit units, where one fails and you can just put it down and pickup another, its great, as they are cheap enough you can have several.

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Last week I rented a car with beofang, everything worked decently at start, but halfway through, the in car 12v battery eliminator would not produce enough amps to transmit, frustrating to hear but not reliably reply, caused at least one fumble shift... Not a big deal to replace but not something the team had spares for.

 

Bottom line

If radios are any bit frustrating or confusing to everyone on a team it would be best to start with better equipment from a series suporter (yes, even on a budget)

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18 minutes ago, Xph said:

 

 

Haha he said Baofeng and high quality in the same sentence...

 

We use Baofeng radios, I would say they are decent quality for the price if you are nice to them...  they will not survive like a Motorola or even Kenwood commercial piece, but are more than usable if you are the programmer type (IE dont mind programming radios, and understand the license requirements and laws you may or may not be complying with).

 

The biggest problem we have found (I use Baofeng stuff) is the accessories, buttons, antenna extenders, 12v power..  itsnt really all that suited for race cars, and is of that low enough chinese quality that you have to troubleshoot, repair and replace regularly...   it does at least make us want something better in the car....   for the hand held pit units, where one fails and you can just put it down and pickup another, its great, as they are cheap enough you can have several.

I have a completely different experience with the radios. That being said, as I mentioned, we have the Sampson harness for the car and different brand antenna.

 

We have had the Baofengs for probably 6 years now and they get used for snowmobiling (wet, cold), the racecar (hot, wet) as well as for general use at the lake for between the boat and trailer. I have found them to be far superior, especially given the price, to any of the FRS crap that many people sell. In addition to that, can run higher than a 1W radio which are not available in Canada. 

 

YMMV

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12 minutes ago, shields8 said:

I have a completely different experience with the radios. That being said, as I mentioned, we have the Sampson harness for the car and different brand antenna.

 

We have had the Baofengs for probably 6 years now and they get used for snowmobiling (wet, cold), the racecar (hot, wet) as well as for general use at the lake for between the boat and trailer. I have found them to be far superior, especially given the price, to any of the FRS crap that many people sell. In addition to that, can run higher than a 1W radio which are not available in Canada. 

 

YMMV

 

No question they are as good or better than most consumer stuff, but I guess I wasnt comparing them to blister pack radios.

 

When I called out Motorola or kenwood above, I was talking about their commercial stuff (think law enforcement or public safety gear)...  its a whole different level.  to me that is what sets the standards for quality radio gear; something you can drive over, drop, hit, start on fire, or otherwise totally ignore and it just works.

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The quality difference between analog radios (for example Baofeng) and Digital radios is MASSIVE! -With digital you get 100% communications :)

 

This is our most popular system for the budget racer - We have been using this same system (Crew radios) with a digital mobile (Motorola CM200) for our teams communications over the past 3 years and they work great. 

https://www.sampsonracing.com/Digital-Starter-5watt-Package-for-2way-complete-p/digital-starter-package.htm

 

We also offer the Baofeng radios as well in a package. They come pre programmed and ready to go. Adding a roof antenna is a big plus for larger road tracks

https://www.sampsonracing.com/The-Expert-5watt-Package-for-2way-driver-to-crew-p/the-expert.htm

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18 hours ago, Shawn Sampson said:

The quality difference between analog radios (for example Baofeng) and Digital radios is MASSIVE! -With digital you get 100% communications :)

 

Thanks for the input Shawn. I'll be getting in touch with you in the next couple of weeks.

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@Shawn Sampson

 

Considering I'm coming into Chump having run Lemons with a 1 Watt CB radio, I hacked with relays to control transmitting via a steering wheel button and rigged into IMSA headsets (yes, it worked as bad as you would imagine it would, haha!) Will a 5 Watt kit work effectively at most "flat" tracks? I'm a midwestern guy, so no hills like Leguna Seca, etc. (Gingerman, Road America, Mid Ohio, etc. By the time I have the money to race out West, I can just upgrade to a 20 Watt system, etc.

 

 

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For what its worth, we got the 5 Watt kit last summer for Thompson in CT and VIR North.  Thompson is 1.77 miles (I think) and relatively flat.  VIR North is 2.25 miles with some decent elevation changes.  We got the quarter wave antenna to go with it and had no issues with coverage.   This was our first radio/system, but I feel like its hard to beat for the money.

 

Service from Sampson was great too.

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  • 2 weeks later...

Check out the Enduro expert system. For the money and the quality you are getting our top of the line parts that can be upgraded as you would like. Also you get your 15% Discount.

 

https://www.sampsonracing.com/The-Expert-5watt-Package-for-2way-driver-to-crew-p/the-expert.htm

 

Might want to add a roof mount antenna, easy upgrade.

 

Cheers, Shawn

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3 hours ago, DEE DEE said:

Shawn I have 1 ear bud that went bad.  Can you repair or do I need a new set?  These buds are custom molded

 

Typically we can repair custom or semi custom ear bud kits, call and speak with one of our techs at (805)650-7223 and they can walk you through the repair procedure. 

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