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Does the series need free sequential gearboxes or aftermarket sequential gearboxes in general?

 

It is already becoming a series of have and have nots as far as monetary spending and getting further and further away from the grassroots showroom stock spirit it started with...

 

 

 

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Why do you think it costs more now than it did before?

 

My tire costs are roughly the same.  The fuel costs are lower for me than when I started (different car).  The brake costs are higher, but not double the cost.

 

Roll cages, seats, safety equipment are the same.

 

Transportation is the same.

 

The cost of races is within a couple hundred dollars the same.

 

 

What got drastically more expensive in your mind?

 

 

For me, the swap was a 1 time cost that got me back to exactly where we were before in relation to the pack.  That WAS a cost increase!

 

 

It is definelty more time for me in the shop to make sure everything is really good to go.  Time equals money, so maybe you are right?

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7 minutes ago, Racer7x said:

News flash....

 

There are idiots all over the internet....

 

lets seperate 2 things here...

1) Conventional automatic transmissions....  They have been raced in several endurance series with arguably a better track record than manuals as far as reliability.  They CAN cause a noticeable decrease in power at the wheels.

 

2) The new twin clutch or automated manuals....  In my opinion, these are manual transmissions.  I would argue that they should probably have a slight points hit for using one (assume part of VPi).

 

 

If somebody wants to run an automatic in Champcar, let them.  There are pros and cons of auto and manual.  I would not look down at anyone who decides to run an automatic.  

 

It seemed to me that the people in that discussion would look down at a team that runs an auto....  Sillyness.

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13 minutes ago, thewheelerZ said:

What the heck are you talking about?  Where do you get the idea of FREE sequential boxes...?  Does the picture in the facebook post resemble a high performance racing transmission in any way?

 

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You are a troll and you make the series look bad.

 

 

Read the comments, I guess their all trolls also...

 

 

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1 hour ago, Racer7x said:

 

Does the series need free sequential gearboxes or aftermarket sequential gearboxes in general?

 

It is already becoming a series of have and have nots as far as monetary spending and getting further and further away from the grassroots showroom stock spirit it started with...

 

 

 

 

See the pic I posted?  Thats a pretty sweet aftermarket sequential gearbox you got there.

 

YOU inserted those terms, NOT the original Champcar facebook poster, NOT the commenters.

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11 minutes ago, thewheelerZ said:

 

See the pic I posted?  Thats a pretty sweet aftermarket sequential gearbox you got there.

 

YOU inserted those terms, NOT the original Champcar facebook poster, NOT the commenters.

 

 

Yep, your right...

 

Some people only look at the pictures while others only read the words...

 

 

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22 minutes ago, thewheelerZ said:

What the heck are you talking about?  Where do you get the idea of FREE sequential boxes...?  Does the picture in the facebook post resemble a high performance racing transmission in any way?

 

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You are a troll and you make the series look bad.

 

13 minutes ago, thewheelerZ said:

 

See the pic I posted?  Thats a pretty sweet aftermarket sequential gearbox you got there.

 

YOU inserted those terms, NOT the original Champcar facebook poster, NOT the commenters.

Get 'em @thewheelerZ  !!!

 

Your words in the first post above are spot on!

#driveoutthetrollsthatarestinkinguptheplace

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I read and looked at it.

 

It seemed the majority of the posters on that thread have either never raced Champcar, or just dont get it.

 

While Im not quite ready to jump on your post here as being straight up trolling....   It does appear you posted this just to stir crap up.

 

There is NO way you read that entire thread and decided that Champcar was actually looking at allowing OE or aftermarket Sequential transmissions (which is NOT a DSG or normal automatic). 

 

Therefore, posting here with the clickbait thread title and follow up with a jalopnik worthy mash up of half truth kinda does indicate trolling....

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9 minutes ago, Racer7x said:

 

 

And get that fireplace stoked and the snow blower primed...

 

Heading down tonight to the 24hr Daytona HSR to help crew, I'll be thinking of 'ya...

 

 

Which team? I think we are heading out Sat morning to catch the TA race, I know some peeps running in that. Have a wedding in the afternoon, but might head back out to catch some fire-belching at night. 

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5 minutes ago, pintodave said:

 

Which team? I think we are heading out Sat morning to catch the TA race, I know some peeps running in that. Have a wedding in the afternoon, but might head back out to catch some fire-belching at night. 

 

 

A buddies group E car...an 11pm and 5am stint sounded like good times😊

 

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1 hour ago, Racer7x said:

 

 

Nope, staying with momma unless Tyler is cooking up some meals too...

 

 

 

10 lb brisket

4 slabs of ribs

6 lbs of pork butt

Smoked salmon 

Two whole chickens 

 

I mean we will have food 

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6 hours ago, thewheelerZ said:

What the heck are you talking about?  Where do you get the idea of FREE sequential boxes...?  Does the picture in the facebook post resemble a high performance racing transmission in any way?

 

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You are a troll and you make the series look bad.

You said it perfectly.  Troll is exactly what i think of when he starts any post.

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