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The company I work for tried ordering a bunch of embroidered winter gear for our outside/trackside staff from a large online merchandiser.  We got this email in response:

 

"Patagonia has very strict brand standards regarding who they sell to. When they vet customers, it’s largely based on how the company impacts the environment. They were concerned about your partnerships with the auto-racing industry so unfortunately Patagonia did decline your order."

 

So, never mind all of the safety advances, engine/vehicle efficiency advances, material advances, etc, etc the auto racing industry has developed over the last 100 years.  🙄

 

Personally, I'm a free market capitalist so it doesn't really matter if they don't want our money, we'll find someone that does.  However, I'm willing to be they had no problem with the christian baker and florists being media mobbed and having the gov't force them to provide services that go against their religious beliefs.  I hate a hypocrite.

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1 hour ago, mcoppola said:

Don't get me started....

Where do you draw the line? Situations like the bakery case are extremely close to the ‘whites only’ establishments in the south decades ago.

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1 hour ago, enginerd said:

Where do you draw the line? Situations like the bakery case are extremely close to the ‘whites only’ establishments in the south decades ago.

 

That's the thing.  You don't.  You can't.  You have to let the free market sort it out.  A true capitalist knows that [insert any race/sex/orientation here] person's money is as green as anyone else's.  If one person won't sell to/service a [insert any race/sex/orientation here] person, there is someone else standing in line to.  Look at what happened to Dick's Sporting Goods.

 

Like I said, I'm not worried or offended by it, we can choose from a variety of other manufacturers for our apparel.  I find it rather comical and ignorant (just like those establishments of the 50s and 60s).  If Patagonia doesn't want to supply us based on some strange belief that we operated in an industry that has an "adverse impact on the environment", then that is there choice.  They are a private company and I personally feel its well within their rights to sell to whomever they want.

 

That said, I certainly won't be buying any of their products and I would advise those of us that enjoy motorsports not to either.  Since they think we're evil and all.

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Apparently Patagonia world headquarters is about 15 miles from me in Ventura, CA. Not surprising I guess. I won't be going for a visit. 

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Let me start by saying that I am EXPLAINING not DEFENDING.  

 

There is a big difference between the Patagonia thing and the other examples given.  Patagonia’s BRAND is on all of their goods.  They need to make sure they don’t tarnish that brand by putting other brands that are inconsistent with their brand next to their brand.  Their core customers tend to hug trees.  It would be bad for them to put Motorsport branding next to theirs.  That is what gives them the right to “discriminate”.  If they were selling products that had no visible branding (like a cake), they couldn’t do what they are doing.   

 

It is similar to a sports star declining to do advertisements for a brand that doesn’t align with their image.  

 

That said, I won’t be buying any of their products. 

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27 minutes ago, pintodave said:

I wonder if they still ship and receive goods VIA horseback & donkey. 

 

Love to stop by and see their cotton gin in action... 

 

Yes. The cognitive dissonance out here is deafening.....

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While I don't support their position on it, I say good for them for having a position and standing by it. 

 

I wasn't going to buy any of their stuff before, but I definitely won't now.  

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I guess their view is the outdoors hobbies they support don't cause much pollution. I'm an avid skier, but I don't expect the lifts and groomers to run on sunshine and rainbows.

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I know I have some Patagonia stuff in my closet.  I'm going to start wearing it to races and then tagging Patagonia in my social media posts.  :)  Just because.  

 

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I never have and never will buy their products!

 

 Unless they start making stuff with more X's or I finally get back to my playing weight, then some decisions will have to be made😑

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On 12/11/2018 at 8:17 PM, Racer28173 said:

Let me start by saying that I am EXPLAINING not DEFENDING.  

 

There is a big difference between the Patagonia thing and the other examples given.  Patagonia’s BRAND is on all of their goods.  They need to make sure they don’t tarnish that brand by putting other brands that are inconsistent with their brand next to their brand.  Their core customers tend to hug trees.  It would be bad for them to put Motorsport branding next to theirs.  That is what gives them the right to “discriminate”.  If they were selling products that had no visible branding (like a cake), they couldn’t do what they are doing.   

 

It is similar to a sports star declining to do advertisements for a brand that doesn’t align with their image.  

 

That said, I won’t be buying any of their products. 

 

Like track suits on an old lady, not what Nike was hoping for.

 

 

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