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Looking for input on this radio setup/if its going to work. Per usual im trying to do this as reasonably priced as possible.
This is what I'm thinking for set up. 

I already bought a Motorolla CM200 Mobile Radio for $80.
https://www.novacommunications.com/i...on%20Guide.pdf

http://www.irlp.net/pnp-radio-pinouts.html

Jumper $65
https://www.ruggedradios.com/index.p...products_id=88

 

Im assuming the 5 pin connector is universal between products, which is what the jumper cable has to tie into the harness.

Car Harness $65
http://raceradiosdirect.com/viewpart.asp?idpart=52000M

PTT $32
http://raceradiosdirect.com/viewpart...dpart=550003HD

Antenna $40
http://raceradiosdirect.com/viewpart.asp?idpart=59450K


So thats a total of $282 with out a crew unit for the pits. Anyone see any issues with this?

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What frequency is everyone using in their cars? 

Rules state this for race control East and Central Event Tracks – East & Central – 151.625 MHz

 

I'm assuming if im using a UHF 400+mhz matched with a antenna that's rated the same and radio I'm probably not going to have transmission and receiving problems. 

 

Motorola lists this other antennas for the CM200:

HAD4007 VHF 144-150.8 MHz, 1/4 Wave Roof Mount

HAD4008 VHF 150.8-162 MHz, 1/4 Wave Roof Mount

HAD4009 VHF 162-174 MHz, 1/4 Wave Roof Mount

RAD4000 VHF 136-174 MHz, 3 dB Gain (no mount)

HAE4002 UHF 403-430 MHz, 1/4 Wave Roof Mount

HAE4003 UHF 450-470 MHz, 1/4 Wave Roof Mount

HAE4004 UHF 470-512 MHz, 1/4 Wave Roof Mount

HAE4010 UHF 406-420 MHz, 3.5 dB Gain Roof Mount

HAE4011 UHF 450-470 MHz, 3.5 dB Gain Roof Mount

HAE4012 UHF 470-494 MHz, 3.5 dB Gain Roof Mount

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You must run a UHF antenna with a UHF radio and vise versa for VHF. Have you confirmed the frequency band that your CM200 radio is made for? Typically we recommend running your race control frequency on a scanner separate from your two way radio setup as using scan functions can be difficult to use depending on the model radio and how each track uses the race control frequency. It also allows you to stay on the UHF platform for all the communications you are having between the car and crew. If you need to know what frequency your CM200 is before buying antennas, just pull the FCC ID from the radio and give us a call. We can run it and give you the frequency range of the radio.  

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AAM50RPC9AA1AN 40W Lists at 438-470mhz.

Mostly just wanted to know if the two 5 pin connectors that I listed are going to fit into eachother (jumper & harness), but looks like you guys sell a very similar thing if not the same. So Im assuming they are going to work, ill give you guys a ring later. 

 

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No problem-

 

Yes, for the most part. The biggest difference is in the quality of the build, jacks and the coax. As with most things racing, quality products do tend to cost more to build but in the long run will save emotional anguish or grief track side.

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On 2/4/2019 at 11:20 AM, Shawn Sampson said:

http://Www.Sampsonracing.comMake sure you get UHF and not VHF radios. Also you recivie a 15% discount at SAMPSON Racing Radios if you are in need of a crew system. 

 how does it perform? we are really trying to keep our costs down, not looking for top of the line. just something simple and reliable. 

 

https://www.sampsonracing.com/The-Expert-5watt-Package-for-2way-driver-to-crew-p/the-expert.htm

 

 

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There are a few things that can make a big difference but a 5watt system with quality parts do make a difference- 

  • Location in the car you plan to mount the radio
  • kind of car 
  • tracks you run at

Adding a roof mount antenna will make a difference if you mount the radio down inside the car (dash or tunnel). If the car is fiberglass you will need to add a fiberglass roof mount antenna

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2 minutes ago, Shawn Sampson said:

There are a few things that can make a big difference but a 5watt system with quality parts do make a difference- 

  • Location in the car you plan to mount the radio
  • kind of car 
  • tracks you run at

Adding a roof mount antenna will make a difference if you mount the radio down inside the car (dash or tunnel). If the car is fiberglass you will need to add a fiberglass roof mount antenna

 

Sebring and Charlotte, maybe Daytona. running a Miata. 

 

We can definitely do an external antenna. 

 

Would i be happier with the more expensive system?And is so, why?

 SRC Racing Radios Digital Starter 5watt Package. 

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The digital starter system offer you 100% clear coverage (no static) at any track in the US with a roof mount antenna. The analog will also give you full coverage but with some static which can be hard to understand at times. 

 

Its comes down to budget. You can always add digital radios at a later date as the radios will plug right into the starter system...

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This radio fit like a glove in the stock 3 series dash plastic.

Waiting on my mini uhf to bnc adapter to install antenna to test transmitting but seems to be receiving fine without the antenna installed. 

CM200 programming cable is like $20 on ebay and then you need to get the CPS software to program the channels.

 

Basically just a 16 pin connector on the back of this thing.

Pins used from the harness i bought:

Pin 2 is Mic Audio

pin 3 is PTT

pin 7 is ground

pin 10 is to ignition 12v

pin 16 is to headphone speakers 

 

Could easily wire this yourself for way less then $65..

https://www.radiotwoway.com/motorola-hln9457a-16-pin-accessory-connector-kit?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&adpos=1o1&scid=scplp21885&sc_intid=21885&gclid=CjwKCAjwqfDlBRBDEiwAigXUaHpDG_19sGwBZZ9T26NWs5avdBvVhoOVGU0Gusjuc9QmgHzRy9laRRoCgwkQAvD_BwE

$5

https://www.ruggedradios.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=189&products_id=406

$5

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On 3/4/2019 at 3:59 PM, Shawn Sampson said:

The digital starter system offer you 100% clear coverage (no static) at any track in the US with a roof mount antenna. The analog will also give you full coverage but with some static which can be hard to understand at times. 

 

Its comes down to budget. You can always add digital radios at a later date as the radios will plug right into the starter system...

@Shawn Sampson Any track?  How about Road America?  Will it get all the way to the kettle bottoms? 

 

We we have an analog Motorola system. What would we need to upgrade to digital?  I have significant mid range hearing loss so I’m thinking digital will get more high frequency audio which I rely on to hear voices. 

 

Thanks!

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Hi Chris

 

 Yes you will have full coverage at those tracks as long as you’re running a Proper roof mount antenna set up that is installed correctly.

 

Are you running currently a NASCAR or IMSA system?

 

cheers, Shawn

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13 hours ago, Shawn Sampson said:

Hi Chris

 

 Yes you will have full coverage at those tracks as long as you’re running a Proper roof mount antenna set up that is installed correctly.

 

Are you running currently a NASCAR or IMSA system?

 

cheers, Shawn

NASCAR

we do have a roof mounted antenna. 

 

Thanks

chris 

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You would just need the 2 radios, a new jumper for incar harness and a coil cord for the crew headset. It will make a massive difference.

 

What radios are you running now?

 

Cheers, Shawn

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9 hours ago, Shawn Sampson said:

You would just need the 2 radios, a new jumper for incar harness and a coil cord for the crew headset. It will make a massive difference.

 

What radios are you running now?

 

Cheers, Shawn

Basic Motorola. GP68

 

About seven years old. 

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Forgot to update this. Radio worked flawlessly. Audio is nice and clear, even all the way down in the boot at Watkins glen.  One of my drivers uses a handheld system on his car and says the audio quality is night and day compared to what he usually uses. 

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Shawn can you change the IMSA car harness to a NASCAR harness on your starter endurance system? 

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4 minutes ago, TimS said:

Shawn can you change the IMSA car harness to a NASCAR harness on your starter endurance system? 

You don’t want anything to do with a nascar system.  IMSA is worth the extra cost

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Helmet has nascar plug and i have a spare helmet kit also with nascar plug.  So needs to be the nascar style at least for 10 years. Maybe an adapter ?

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You cant adapt from Nascar helmet parts to IMSA car parts.  It wont work reliably, if at all.

 

Its worth spending the extra 60 or 100 bucks and converting your helmet to IMSA - its a much more reliable standard.

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Hi Tim - That system must be a IMSA-

 

Huggy is correct a NASCAR helmet to IMSA harness is not always compatible. Also NASCAR will not always work with other radios where as IMSA will work 100% of the time.

 

Cheers, Shawn

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