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It was a fantastically fun and successful weekend for our team.  We had all three R3R Boxsters on track and even scored a 3rd overall on Friday.  We did have one catastrophic failure, but it was due to a sniper pebble with perfect aim.  It punctured the radiator with a one in a million shot.

 

I'll address one thing first.  We did put Pro drivers in the cars.  Johan Schwartz (PWC) drove 603 and Josh Bilicki (NASCAR) drove 602.  On Friday, 601 had a local hot-shoe with pro-level abilities, as well as Johan Schwartz.  Some may question why we would do that, when the Boxster is a hot button for some competitors.  Easy answer... we wanted to show everyone the absolute upper limit for these cars and calm any fears.  With pros at the wheel, we were still 3 seconds slower than Ludicrous Speed MR2.  Our human drivers were in the 2:53 - 2:56 range (7-10 seconds slower than the winning car).  And as expected, we could only go 85-90 minutes on fuel.  602 and 603 ran out of fuel multiple times during the race.  A more detailed reason is that we wanted to test the C car vs. the EC car.  We needed a super fast and consistent driver for that.  We proved that there is virtually no difference between the cars.  The EC car is just stiffer and has some adjustability.  For that reason, we're coverting the EC car to C class.  In our opinion, the cars fit in very nicely in ChampCar and we're excited to compete for podium finishes.

 

We had a great time and really enjoyed meeting fellow competitors and making new friends.  It's going to be a fun season.  Thank you to ChampCar officials and volunteers.  Special thanks to everyone for being gentle on us rookies.  #VisorDown

 

Brad

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Is there any event photos? I was hoping someone got photo of our car while it was on track - not in pieces :P
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27 minutes ago, Mike.g said:

Is there any event photos? I was hoping someone got photo of our car while it was on track - not in pieces :P

 

I definitely saw a photographer out there.  He was at the entrance to the carousel for a while on Saturday.  The photos of our cars were sent to us by one of our local drivers.  I'll try to find out where he got them.

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55 minutes ago, Mike.g said:

Is there any event photos? I was hoping someone got photo of our car while it was on track - not in pieces :P
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7 minutes ago, Ray Franck said:

 HUMMM ????

We started to have a fuel pick up issue. After we filled up we started to lose power, and the temp started to climb to 220. We came in and shut it down.

Plug #2 was not in the greatest shape, and #5 piston is going to need some JB Weld. :)

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Thank you Champcar staff and volunteers for another great event. 

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Had a great time at Road America. Car ran great. We were nursing a alternator issue mostly all day, cutting in and out. Near the end of the day our battery discharged to a dangerous level. We stopped to change batteries and continue. With about an hour left we lost 4th gear. Not a huge issue. And on the last lap we lost 5th.

 

Unfortunately the extra set of spare brake pads did not arrive in time for this race so we did not have enough pads to continue Saturday safely. And knowing we were going to have a braking issue we decided to take our class win and P8 finish and re-group for the glen.

 

Thanks to the champcar staff for another great event. See you all at the next one.

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8 hours ago, Round3Racing said:

It was a fantastically fun and successful weekend for our team.  We had all three R3R Boxsters on track and even scored a 3rd overall on Friday.  We did have one catastrophic failure, but it was due to a sniper pebble with perfect aim.  It punctured the radiator with a one in a million shot.

 

I'll address one thing first.  We did put Pro drivers in the cars.  Johan Schwartz (PWC) drove 603 and Josh Bilicki (NASCAR) drove 602.  On Friday, 601 had a local hot-shoe with pro-level abilities, as well as Johan Schwartz.  Some may question why we would do that, when the Boxster is a hot button for some competitors.  Easy answer... we wanted to show everyone the absolute upper limit for these cars and calm any fears.  With pros at the wheel, we were still 3 seconds slower than Ludicrous Speed MR2.  Our human drivers were in the 2:53 - 2:56 range (7-10 seconds slower than the winning car).  And as expected, we could only go 85-90 minutes on fuel.  602 and 603 ran out of fuel multiple times during the race.  A more detailed reason is that we wanted to test the C car vs. the EC car.  We needed a super fast and consistent driver for that.  We proved that there is virtually no difference between the cars.  The EC car is just stiffer and has some adjustability.  For that reason, we're coverting the EC car to C class.  In our opinion, the cars fit in very nicely in ChampCar and we're excited to compete for podium finishes.

 

We had a great time and really enjoyed meeting fellow competitors and making new friends.  It's going to be a fun season.  Thank you to ChampCar officials and volunteers.  Special thanks to everyone for being gentle on us rookies.  #VisorDown

 

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Enjoy being a part of a series in which (currently) regular people with regular paying jobs can compete - a low cost series!  I hope it stays that way.  Rich people have plenty of other series they can join. Let's help them 'get in where they fit in.' 

I love this series (so far, anyway).
We have a Miata and are competitive with the other Miatas -  without investing a lot of money or cheating.

We were not competitive with the PartsBadger Miata, however.  That thing blows my doors off down the straightaway.  Congrats to them for finding mind-blowing speed from a Miata engine.  #amazed.

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#55 Udder Chaos neon team had a fun weekend despite having our share of issues.  This was the first outing after going to megasquirt and we had some sync issues appear mid-day Friday.  Changed the voltage to crank sensor from 5 to 12v and issue went away.  Saturday morning we discovered the alternator was shot as we went to move the car to grid.  Got the alternator changed and out on the track to catch the back of the field just prior to track going green.  Had a strong first stint and then we struggled with the alternator again and then fried a clutch.  So again after spending the middle of the race in the paddock changing the clutch we got back out to get some laps for all the drivers and see the checkered flag.  We were happy with the lack of rain on Fri and Sat, setting some new fast lap times for our car at RA, and once again for the camaraderie of the teams in the paddock near us.

 

Looking forward to Gingerman, seams way too far away!

 

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#489 Ergolab Miata was fun and fast, but had issues.  I'm trying to drive it off the trailer and the car won't start.  Bad fuel pump.  How does that happen simply from towing it across the country?  LOL.  Need to source another spare.  

 

We had a clutch line blow Friday when we were in 3rd place.  From there, the problems cascaded.   Going around in only 4th gear we were still able to turn 256-258s.  Then our driver had contact, come in to pull the fender, and then beached the car a little later, effectively destroying the splitter (from the tow out) and both front ball joints were blown too.  But jamming the car in gear also apparently broke a spring in the clutch, so after hour and hours of bleeding and changing all the components to the clutch, we finally took the trans off at 9:30 PM and found the bad clutch.  We had multiple used options and clearly chose the wrong one as it started slipping Saturday after 45 minutes (we were leading at that point).  Note also that wing was effective.  So effective it started ripping the body apart at the attachment points.  Troy welded the poop out of it and it should be good going forward.

 

The car is fun and fast, we just haven't been able to put a whole race together.  It teases enough that I'm not giving up.  Thanks to the workers and the other great teams we swapped needed parts with.  Love to race with you all.  

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#630 - PartsBadger Miata

 

A big congrats to Ludicrous Speed on an awesome performance.  I was also very impressed by the driving of the EC Cougar, that team can wheel!

 

It was a rough weekend for PartsBadger, our mechanic was having some health issues, and we were busy since VIR and didn't dedicate the time needed to the car.  We just got the motor together with the new port and polish but didn't get a chance to tune it and we were scrambling at the test day with little sleep.  None the less the car did test strong and we were hoping for a good race performance.  The first stint was fast and we were building a good lead (2:48.7).  Came into the pits and the car died at pit entry.  We couldn't get it refired and after troubleshooting we lost compression, AGAIN!! (Also happened at VIR).  Which is shocking since the lap prior was a 2:51.

 

This is a local race for us, so we went back to the shop, got a junker motor we had in the shop and swapped the motor.  After it was installed, we tried to turn it over and it was stopping at TDC.  We assumed it was a flywheel bolt and removed the trans.  Same issue.  We then scoped the motor and it seemed like some stuff was in the head.  We removed the head and found the remainder of a cut rivet that likely came from when we were fabricating our splitter.  Apparently it flew into the motor in the corner of the shop.  After reinstalling the head(Thanks Jason Perl for the head gasket) we still couldn't get it started and called it a night a 12:30am.  The next morning I troubleshooted some more and found the cam timing was way off around 10:00am.  We fixed that and hit the track.

 

We got about a dozen laps in total before the front oil seal blew and we packed up for the weekend.

 

Overall the car was 0.5 seconds faster than last year.  We believe there was a 2:47 in the car without traffic and a solid lap.  The junker motor cost us ~2.5 seconds a lap versus our rebuilt motor with a port and polish, which isn't as much time as I expected.  

 

It was a tough weekend in many respects, but we will hopefully learn and be faster and smarter at the next race.

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3 minutes ago, LuckyKid said:

#630 - PartsBadger Miata

 

A big congrats to Ludicrous Speed on an awesome performance.  I was also very impressed by the driving of the EC Cougar, that team can wheel!

 

It was a rough weekend for PartsBadger, our mechanic was having some health issues, and we were busy since VIR and didn't dedicate the time needed to the car.  We just got the motor together with the new port and polish but didn't get a chance to tune it and we were scrambling at the test day with little sleep.  None the less the car did test strong and we were hoping for a good race performance.  The first stint was fast and we were building a good lead (2:48.7).  Came into the pits and the car died at pit entry.  We couldn't get it refired and after troubleshooting we lost compression, AGAIN!! (Also happened at VIR).  Which is shocking since the lap prior was a 2:51.

 

This is a local race for us, so we went back to the shop, got a junker motor we had in the shop and swapped the motor.  After it was installed, we tried to turn it over and it was stopping at TDC.  We assumed it was a flywheel bolt and removed the trans.  Same issue.  We then scoped the motor and it seemed like some stuff was in the head.  We removed the head and found the remainder of a cut rivet that likely came from when we were fabricating our splitter.  Apparently it flew into the motor in the corner of the shop.  After reinstalling the head(Thanks Jason Perl for the head gasket) we still couldn't get it started and called it a night a 12:30am.  The next morning I troubleshooted some more and found the cam timing was way off around 10:00am.  We fixed that and hit the track.

 

We got about a dozen laps in total before the front oil seal blew and we packed up for the weekend.

 

Overall the car was 0.5 seconds faster than last year.  We believe there was a 2:47 in the car without traffic and a solid lap.  The junker motor cost us ~2.5 seconds a lap versus our rebuilt motor with a port and polish, which isn't as much time as I expected.  

 

It was a tough weekend in many respects, but we will hopefully learn and be faster and smarter at the next race.

This car was very impressive. I think it gapped me 6 car lengths in the carousel... and our car handles pretty well!

Would love to see your times at Gingerman when you get the engine sorted out. 

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I didn't do this earlier, so here is taking care of some unfinished business.  

 

First, thanks to Parts Badger for things we needed that we didn't possess to finish up our repairs.  We owe you.  You guys are awesome and are advancing our series.  Keep it up.

Second, thanks to Ludicrous Speed for the use of the welder.  And also congrats to you for winning both races.  Speed and reliability-you have both!

Third, thanks to tech for keeping us safe.  Good inspections.  Note that a few things came to light later-we are NOT required to weight cars, and also there will be no pump outs to determine fuel capacity according to Mike, our CEO.  We are not IMSA and don't want to be.

Fourth, thank you to Mike Morrison for putting on a great show and also to the Road America volunteers and staff.  What a great track.  

Fifth, thanks to the guys in garage 13.  We didn't have time for food and you fed us.  I wish more could take their attitude-they had ten drivers for two cars.  Only one car ran each day, but you wouldn't know it from the laughs and fun being had over there.  It was awesome to see.

 

See some of you guys in Charlotte this weekend!

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Ludicrous Speed had a weekend to remember with overall wins both days!  Our third win ever and third in a row at Road America.  It didn't start out well.  Thursday practice was wet cold and windy.  We had a list of things to test but conditions were so varied with the rain we didn't get any good data.  After one driver had a 90 mph slide through the gravel, I got in to make sure the car still felt ok and bounced it off the wall going into 12 in rain and 40 deg temps.  With some help from Asteri and Bill Strong, we got the car rolling again to get through tech Thursday night.  We then took it back to my house in Sheboygan and went through the alignment, pulled fenders out, and patched the splitter.  Put it back on the trailer around midnight.

 

Friday had three drivers and we chose to go max fuel burn and ended up making five stops.  Two more than Premium Dudes and JSK.  We did not have them covered but they both had issues giving us a chance at the win.  We were in the lead with less than an hour to go and we got the dreadded meatball black flag.  Some of the new aero was dragging.  Likely caused by the contact with the wall the day before.  Some quick pit repair by Chris Krumrai got me back out there with enough time for me to catch Premium Dudes for the win.

 

Saturday race started a few minutes later making fuel a little less of an issue.  We went full fuel conserve for a while running up to 20 seconds off our earlier lap times to eliminate a stop.  This put me in the car for the last 90 minute stint (85 to 90 min is our typical stint) and I came out in the lead just ahead of Premium Dudes all I had to do maintain the lead. Unbelievable that we took the win again.  Over the two race days, I drove 8 hours and loved it!

 

JSK, Premium Dudes, ErgoLab, Parts Badger (and likely others) could have all had the win with a clean race.  

 

Now we have 25 things on the to do list to fix in the next two days before we leave for Charlotte!  Looking forward to 24 degrees of banking!

 

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25 minutes ago, Chris Shay said:

Now we have 25 things on the to do list to fix in the next two days before we leave for Charlotte!  Looking forward to 24 degrees of banking!

 

Chris Shay

See you next weekend!!!  Congrats again, can't wait for Charlotte.  

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Great weekend for the Premium Dudes, I'll post a longer write-up later detailing how we raced our way to two podium finishes. 

 

But first, we would not have gotten there without some help (per usual) from some helpful champs!

- Thanks to PartsBadger who loaned us a 36mm socket and alignment string

- Big thanks to the rusty cougar / drunken squirrel team for lots of help, including but not limited to their tall jack, a welder,  oil-dry, fuel during the race when we realized we didn't have enough and a pit stop was imminent. I know there was more but can't remember it right now. Great group of guys... that car is a monster on the straights! I'll bring some Jaeger to our next event with you!

- Thanks Bucksnort for offering your welder too

- And thanks to any other teams who assisted, we appreciate it!

 

And thanks to a couple team sponsors:

- SSSquid tuning hooked us up with some ECU changes and tuning for this track. We needed lots of power without too much fuel burn and they made it happen.

- 90racing.com provided some of our driver gear, roll cage padding, and other helpful items. Free shipping on all orders over $90 and great service.

 

Congrats to all finishers and Ludicrous Speed on the wins... we hope to dethrone you in October but we have some work to do!

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23 minutes ago, enginerd said:

Congrats to all finishers and Ludicrous Speed on the wins... we hope to dethrone you in October but we have some work to do!

Thanks!  We welcome the challenge.  A win doesn’t mean much without good competition and you guys bring that. 

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A big thanks to  @Jer for inviting me to run with his Ergolab team, I had a great time despite the untimely issues that took us out of the race.  Having never driven his car before I was happy to take the 1st stint on Friday morning and I quickly felt at home behind the wheel, clocking in a fastest lap of 2:50.157.  Not that it's a sprint race, but that lap would have been into the 2:49s if it wasn't for some traffic in T14 that killed the front straight speed.  After 31 laps and some great ChampCar racing I was pleased that we climbed into 3rd place.  Our next 2 drivers had good pace as well but the transmission got stuck in 4th gear.  @Jer already told the story behind the issues but as a team we really pulled together that Friday afternoon to get the car fixed to the best of our abilities.  Justin, Evan, Troy, and Jer did everything in their power to fix the myriad repairs well into the wee hours of the morning ... I was very glad for their experience, knowledge, and confidence with the wrenches as I tried to pitch in where I could and stay out of the way when I couldn't.  I really thought the car was in good shape but unfortunately the racing gods had other ideas and the spare clutch that we installed suicided itself after 45 minutes of Troy's quick driving.  To add insult to injury I discovered that my GoPro setup locked up and didn't record any of Friday's racing <face palm>.

 

Thank you Road America staff, flaggers, and safety team ... I commend you for still allowing hot-pulls.  Thanks to ChampCar and the volunteers for hosting an awesome race at an iconic venue.  And, further to Jer's post, a huge shout out to @LuckyKid and the Parts Badger team for offering up your Miata parts.  I was humbled by your generosity and good nature despite working long hours on your own extensive repairs.  And @Chris Shay and Ludicris Speed for the welding equipment, that really helped, congrats on the wins!  Finally a huge high-five to the Riley team #441 Silver Steak and #444 Purple Haze for the hot food during our many hours of toil in the garages. You guys are a riot!

 

The GoPros did manage to capture Troy's stint on Saturday morning, including the moment the clutch gave up the ghost.  Great driving @troy!

 

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Had a good time racing with everyone this weekend, very clean racing from my stint.  Tyler told us to "send it" so we did!  Chris your creeping up on our record, congrats on the back to back to back wins.

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3 minutes ago, scottyk said:

Had a good time racing with everyone this weekend, very clean racing from my stint.  Tyler told us to "send it" so we did!  Chris your creeping up on our record, congrats on the back to back to back wins.

Thanks!

Which record are you referring to?

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2 hours ago, miatainium said:

Thank you Road America staff, flaggers, and safety team ... I commend you for still allow hot-pulls

Amazing event!! And yes RA doing hot pulls is amazing!!!!!!!  Makes for great racing, keeps the flow of the race the whole day and driver stints equal. Amazing track and amazing staff there! Just finished a 13 hour ride home.  Will post more tomorrow.  Great return to Champcar for our team. 

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A big thanks from BuckSnort Racing to ChampCar Staff, Road America Crew and all the teams for a great race this weekend.
Our car sat for ~2years and we had to sort out some issues with one of them that unfortunately sent us home early on Saturday.

We had a new driver out there also so I appreciate everyone's patience with us on track. Thanks to Premium Dudes and Gearworks for the beers too!
See you at Indy!

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9 hours ago, csx135 said:

...RA doing hot pulls is amazing!!!!!!! 

 

I'm fairly certain that I saw the emergency vehicle pass a race car on the front straight.  Those EV guys were amazing!

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