Administrators Bill Strong Posted June 27, 2019 Administrators Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 September 7-September 8, 2019NELSON LEDGES ROAD COURSE: 24 Hour Enduro, $1725Garrettsville, OH"Nelson 24"Early Pay Discount Ends: July 9, 2019Entrant ListDownload Supplemental Rules and Event Info So, how long does it take the clock to go around, twice.... Yep, 1 full day, 24 hours, 1,440 minutes, 86,400 ticks of the second hand.. Excited yet? Yeah, me to.... As always, please read the Supplemental Rules. There's lots of good information and answers to most questions. They can be found here. The Novice / Champ School. There's always lots of questions about this school (meeting). This meeting is not about teaching new drivers how to race, it's about how ChampCar administers a race, how you can expect the race to run. You MUST attend the Novice/Champ school if you have never raced wheel-to-wheel before, or if you have never raced with ChampCar. If you have not raced in over a year, are a newly formed team of experienced ChampCar drivers, are working over the wall, or just want a refresher you Should attend the school. All are welcome. What time is the meeting you ask? Check the Supplemental Rules. (See that's how I get you to read them.) Your Pit Assignments are here. I am maintaining a few open spaces in the event that additional teams register. The specific pit spaces will be marked along the pit rail. Speaking of the Pits, you will be able to use small vehicles like golf-carts and mules to move around the paddock and cold-side pits. However, you must have lighting on them after dark. And speaking of lights. We want all cars to have headlights mounted and turned on by 5pm. Why so early? So we have time to contact you and get them on properly before we have to black flag you and affect your race. Remember, headlights, taillights, and brakelights are all required. Fuel. So this year we know for sure that Nelson Ledges will have a fuel truck onsite. I do not know for sure what the price will be, but it will be comparable to pump prices locally. No need to make runs out to the stop-and-rob.. Paddock Parking. There's been a few questions about trailer parking. The attached photo below explains it best. Trailers, haulers, and rigs must be parked in the green paddock area. If you ran last year, it's the same layout. A reminder: read through and print out the Supplemental Rules for this event here. If you have any questions about the Nelson Ledges 24 please email me here. All the best - Your ChampCar Staff The ChampCar Staff Entries for Nelson 24 updated 9/3/2019 Team Name Car # Year Make Model 1. All Rhodes Racing 495 1995 BMW 318TI 2. Autobody Specialist 139 1979 Mazda RX7 3. Blakes Garage 248 2000 Mazda Miata 4. Bush Boys 909 1991 Mazda Miata 5. Car Ramrod 283 1990 Mazda Miata 6. Catvalier 931 2004 Chevy Cavalier 7. Clapped Out Racing 993 1994 Bmw E36 8. Hakuna Miata 128 1990 Mazda Miata 9. Hole Lotta Less Laps 732 2010 Mini Cooper 10. Hounddogs 522 1994 Bmw 325 11. Kar-Go Racing 236 2004 Mazda Miata 12. Misfire 773 1992 honda civic 13. Mostmint Racing 50 1992 Saturn SC 14. MZ Custom 338 1999 Mazda MX-5 15. NTF Racing 683 1998 Honda Civic 16. red green racing 31 1992 BMW 325i 17. Rhinoceros Racing 253 1993 Mazda Miata 18. Silver Star 470 1992 mazada miata 19. Step Brothers 35 1988 BMW 325is 20. Team Koko 30 1991 BMW 318is 21. Team Sahlen 942 1999 Porsche Boxster 22. The Banana Splits 170 1998 BMW 323iS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Bill Strong Posted July 17, 2019 Author Administrators Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 updated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvumtnbkr Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 Hmmm... @E. Tyler Pedersen you got a stint left over? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest E. Tyler Pedersen Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, wvumtnbkr said: Hmmm... @E. Tyler Pedersen you got a stint left over? Not going to this one due to baby classes that day. May go to the track and hang out that night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvumtnbkr Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 Your car is on the list.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Bill Strong Posted July 17, 2019 Author Administrators Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 41 minutes ago, E. Tyler Pedersen said: Not going to this one due to baby classes that day. May go to the track and hang out that night. Kids are way overrated. You builkt a race car without instructions. Kids are way easier. Just feed. sleep. change diapers. feed. sleep change diapers.Just feed. sleep. change diapers. feed. sleep change diapers.Just feed. sleep. change diapers. feed. sleep change diapers.Just feed. sleep. change diapers. feed. sleep change diapers.Just feed. sleep. change diapers. feed. sleep change diapers.Just feed. sleep. change diapers. feed. sleep change diapers.Just feed. sleep. change diapers. feed. sleep change diapers.Just feed. sleep. change diapers. feed. sleep change diapers.Just feed. sleep. change diapers. feed. sleep change diapers.Just feed. sleep. change diapers. feed. sleep change diapers. and whatever you do, don't fall for the we have to buy all these fancy european baby this and thats. That takes money away from racing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvumtnbkr Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 When your sweet beautiful baby is crying do the following.... Check it's cute tiny diaper, change if necessary. If this is good move onto the next step to make your cutie pie feel better: Give food. Once that baby doesn't want anymore, check diaper again. If those things don't work, gently hold the thing and see if it will fall asleep. If that doesn't work, check diaper. If none of that works, check the parasite for a fever. Once done checking for fever, check diaper. If none of that works, give the devil spawn back to mommy until baby momma gets frustrated and hands that life ruiner back to you... Repeat. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest E. Tyler Pedersen Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 2 hours ago, wvumtnbkr said: Your car is on the list.... Sure is, still not going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Bill Strong Posted July 17, 2019 Author Administrators Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 1 hour ago, wvumtnbkr said: When your sweet beautiful baby is crying do the following.... Check it's cute tiny diaper, change if necessary. If this is good move onto the next step to make your cutie pie feel better: Give food. Once that baby doesn't want anymore, check diaper again. If those things don't work, gently hold the thing and see if it will fall asleep. If that doesn't work, check diaper. If none of that works, check the parasite for a fever. Once done checking for fever, check diaper. If none of that works, give the devil spawn back to mommy until baby momma gets frustrated and hands that life ruiner back to you... Repeat. And shaking the baby like an etch-a-sketch is for some reason frowned upon in today's world. raising a bunch of pu...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skierman64 Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) I want to go again, but can't. BTW the track is awesome, it doesn't look like much on paper but the flow is incredible. Edited July 17, 2019 by skierman64 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wd6681 Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 Babies 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitsbain Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 I'm going, I assume it will be with All Roads. There will be a potluck. I will probably be there Thursday. There will be desserts!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMiskoe Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 Wait, when is the kid due? Missing baby class for a race is acceptable, there isn't much for you to do anyway, you're just along for moral support. Missing the birth is not. But scheduling a c-section 10 days before the race, then going to said race while mom & newborn stay home? Yup. Been there, done that. Still married too. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kondata Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 This will be our team's first time at Nelson Ledges. Anyone have any good words of advice for what to bring/expect in the paddock? I read through last years thread and it seems getting some boards or large pieces of wood as platforms is a good idea. Any other tips (first time for a 24 race in general). Thank You Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Bill Strong Posted July 23, 2019 Author Administrators Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 a couple of 4x8 sheets of plywood in case it rains. generators for pit and paddock. Christmas tree led lights for the easyup on pitlane. a small flashlight mounted on the dash in case your driver gets lost in the wilderness of tires and fog. easy up with hold down weights - concrete filled PVC tube or karting tires with embedded eye hooks to hold shit down. spare tires. Cupcakes for the pit lane reporter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kondata Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 thanks bill, all good ideas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Bill Strong Posted July 23, 2019 Author Administrators Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 oh, and if you think your lights are awesome... they are not. You will need more light! But... be prepared for fog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mostmint Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 Sunscreen and insect repellent. They do a pretty good job keeping the bugs down but still nice to have in case some get through. I recommend some type of tent big enough for the car in the paddock with light in case you have to make repairs at night in the rain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logdog Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Bill Strong said: Cupcakes for the pit lane reporter. The wife and I are volunteering to work this race. Don't you mean "cupcakes for the pit road reporter AND miscellaneous workers"? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest E. Tyler Pedersen Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 3 hours ago, kondata said: This will be our team's first time at Nelson Ledges. Anyone have any good words of advice for what to bring/expect in the paddock? I read through last years thread and it seems getting some boards or large pieces of wood as platforms is a good idea. Any other tips (first time for a 24 race in general). Thank You Bring some boards like Bill said but put them on pallets like a raised platform. Generator for the pits. Wagon for fuel jugs. The walk from the cold pits to the pit road is very adventurous especially if it rains. Fan for the pits. It gets hot even in Sept. Boards for jack stands in pit road. They have restroom trailers and a building where they have restrooms which are interesting to say the least. Food truck was awesome since it was opened all day and night. There is ice available for a good price too. There is a Marathon close by to the track for fuel. Open early in the morning for fuel run. Track is very very fast. Take advantage of the practice day for testing. We only had to change one tire last year. Fog rolls in at about 2-3 am going into the kink but I saw people go off the track there. Head lamps for pit stops during the night. We used these to strap to the helmets. We rented a camper last year so we didn't have to leave. It was worth the money. Guy delivered it on Friday. If I think of more I'll respond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kondata Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 I saw the average speed here is higher than even RA, I'm guessing its a heavy fuel use track. Any comparisons with stint time being shortened vs say, gingerman or RA as baselines? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvumtnbkr Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 (edited) I don't think it uses as much fuel as ra. There is no slow corners except the very last corner. We didn't use any more there than we use at Pitt race or gingerman. One stint (with not so good brakes), I did 2 hours on 9 gallons of gas even setting one of our fastest laps in the process. Normal fuel usage is about 8gph. Edit for clarity: this one stint I used that much fuel. Stints with working brakes and using the top speed of the car, we averaged right at our normal 8gph. We brought pallets and some plywood and screwed it all together like a deck. Our tools, spares, shoes, etc were dry the entire weekend. Plus, it made getting over pit wall easier. Edited July 24, 2019 by wvumtnbkr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbaker480 Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 15 hours ago, E. Tyler Pedersen said: Boards for jack stands in pit road. This. Last year my car spent the entire practice day up on jackstands and every time we put it back down to take a lap we had to pull the stands back out of the asphalt. I hope it's hardened up a bit by now but I also ruined the shirt I had on that day because I too melted into the pavement. Nelson Ledges is not a fun place to spend two days trying to recover from catastrophic engine failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kondata Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 18 hours ago, wvumtnbkr said: I don't think it uses as much fuel as ra. There is no slow corners except the very last corner. We didn't use any more there than we use at Pitt race or gingerman. One stint (with not so good brakes), I did 2 hours on 9 gallons of gas even setting one of our fastest laps in the process. Normal fuel usage is about 8gph. We brought pallets and some plywood and screwed it all together like a deck. Our tools, spares, shoes, etc were dry the entire weekend. Plus, it made getting over pit wall easier. Just to clarify, you usually use 8 gallons per hour and did a 2 hour stint with only 9 gallons total? So fuel economy was double at this track...or am I understanding something incorrectly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvumtnbkr Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 You understood correctly with 1 twist.... I was forced to go a bit slower in the stint and back off on the straights because I had very marginal brakes. This led to crazy good gas mileage. I would say that it is fairly easy to conserve fuel at this track without a huge laptime penalty if you need to. Expect similar fuel mileage as you would at gingerman, Pitt race, mid Ohio, etc. Probably slightly less usage than ra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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