wvumtnbkr Posted July 3, 2019 Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 I am possibly in the market for a digital dash. I want this to replace my gauges on my new build. At the same time, I need a new lap timer device. I would also like the ability for the unit to log data. What do I need? Is there a fairly inexpensive way to do this? Or am I stuck with the 2k plus units. I am using a stock gm obd2 pcm. It would be great if I can get the gauge data from the pcm and log it. Any help in explaining this to me would be greatly appreciated. I am a bit of a neophyte when it comes to integrating this tech into a racecar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Advisory Committee Andrew D Johnson Posted July 3, 2019 Technical Advisory Committee Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, wvumtnbkr said: Is there a fairly inexpensive way to do this? Run stock dash with an oil pressure switch to a dummy light on the dash. Total $$ involved = 20 Just use your phone as your lap timer log data? pfffff ain't nobody got time for that 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest E. Tyler Pedersen Posted July 3, 2019 Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 @55mini or @hotchkis23 can help you with a tablet solution with integrating data. I use the AiM MXL2 but I also have Megasquirt so it talks over CAN. I know @Huggy and Will run similiar setups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvumtnbkr Posted July 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 I'm looking at the racecapture /trackmk2 and using a tablet. Seems about half the cost and does what I want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Advisory Committee NigelStu Posted July 3, 2019 Technical Advisory Committee Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 http://www.race-technology.com/us/racing/products/display-products/dash2-pro 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvumtnbkr Posted July 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, NigelStu said: http://www.race-technology.com/us/racing/products/display-products/dash2-pro Is that the one you use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ross2004 Posted July 3, 2019 Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, wvumtnbkr said: I'm looking at the racecapture /trackmk2 and using a tablet. Seems about half the cost and does what I want. I'm happy with our racecapture pro. The live telemetry is very nice, and they're good about updating and improving the features/interface over time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Advisory Committee NigelStu Posted July 3, 2019 Technical Advisory Committee Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, wvumtnbkr said: Is that the one you use? Almost - I have the data box and small lap timer display. I am looking at adding the Dash2 to replace stock gauges since 3/4 of my stock gauges like to cutout randomly during the race Dash2Pro does all the function of the box plus the display in one unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gkuhn41 Posted July 3, 2019 Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 We run an Aim MXL2 with race capture on megasquirt. We do have an older aim MXL Pista unit that we are sending out for repairs that we will be looking to sell. It has a lap timer and everything but i dont know what kind of datalogging it does. That could be had on the cheap. Look us up @ indy if you want to talk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakks Posted July 3, 2019 Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 Running Bulls runs RaceCapture Mk2 as well. We have pretty nice pitbox that tends to get at least 2-3 pics a weekend from various people. We monitor all the data in the pits and have now set it up for pit to car text. Hoping there is enough cell service for all of us... We will be at Indy as well. Pit stall 34 with Brew Krewe and JAS. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Posted July 3, 2019 Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 I raced @FlorahDorah's RX7 with a AEM CD7 and it saved the car both races. Alarms came up warning my of various temp issues so I was able to flip to the DIAG screen and see all the temps and adjust my driving, while looking at lap times to get them out of the red. The LED RPM gauge is really nice too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvumtnbkr Posted July 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, jakks said: Running Bulls runs RaceCapture Mk2 as well. We have pretty nice pitbox that tends to get at least 2-3 pics a weekend from various people. We monitor all the data in the pits and have now set it up for pit to car text. Hoping there is enough cell service for all of us... We will be at Indy as well. Pit stall 34 with Brew Krewe and JAS. I gotta come check this out. What do you use as the display in the car? Edited July 3, 2019 by wvumtnbkr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gkuhn41 Posted July 3, 2019 Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 We are actually developing a program through race capture to tell us how long we have remaining on fuel at your current pace. That way if we are trying to stretch fuel we have the read out telling us how many minutes at the average burn rate we have left. There are a lot of really cool things you can use it for, id highly recommend getting it. 2 hours ago, jakks said: Running Bulls runs RaceCapture Mk2 as well. We have pretty nice pitbox that tends to get at least 2-3 pics a weekend from various people. We monitor all the data in the pits and have now set it up for pit to car text. Hoping there is enough cell service for all of us... We will be at Indy as well. Pit stall 34 with Brew Krewe and JAS. Ive seen and wanted this setup! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest E. Tyler Pedersen Posted July 3, 2019 Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 Good there are some Racecapture wiz kids that can help me next weekend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchkis23 Posted July 3, 2019 Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 I swear we had a defective race capture. We spent two years working with it and only got it to work for one actual race. Tried wifi, cellular, and the bluetooth options. We are currently running Race Pak and have been really happy with it. Set up is simple and the data tool is easy to use. RacePak Vantage 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest E. Tyler Pedersen Posted July 3, 2019 Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 13 minutes ago, hotchkis23 said: I swear we had a defective race capture. We spent two years working with it and only got it to work for one actual race. Tried wifi, cellular, and the bluetooth options. We are currently running Race Pak and have been really happy with it. Set up is simple and the data tool is easy to use. RacePak Vantage Using a tablet as a dash? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd K Posted July 3, 2019 Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 We are working on finishing up our first build and hoping to make a race before end of the year. I'm curious as to the advantage of live telemetry. I understand data capture can be helpful for chassis or engine tuning but not seeing the budget racing aspect of spending as much on electronics and radios than what we have into the entire build plus spares. We're planning on just taking the simple approach to start - couple gauge / warning lights - stock tach. Anything wrong with that? Just trying to cover our bases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakks Posted July 3, 2019 Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 1 hour ago, wvumtnbkr said: I gotta come check this out. What do you use as the display in the car? Some older Android tablet is what I’m told. 1 hour ago, Gkuhn41 said: We are actually developing a program through race capture to tell us how long we have remaining on fuel at your current pace. That way if we are trying to stretch fuel we have the read out telling us how many minutes at the average burn rate we have left. There are a lot of really cool things you can use it for, id highly recommend getting it. Ive seen and wanted this setup! I’ve investigated doing something similar, but the idiot light seems to work well. When idiot light goes solid we have 25 min left of fuel. For our car it would take two flow meters to work. After Indy I’m getting the fuel level senders set up so at least we have some data for fuel level. Ran out of time prior to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakks Posted July 3, 2019 Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, Todd K said: We are working on finishing up our first build and hoping to make a race before end of the year. I'm curious as to the advantage of live telemetry. I understand data capture can be helpful for chassis or engine tuning but not seeing the budget racing aspect of spending as much on electronics and radios than what we have into the entire build plus spares. We're planning on just taking the simple approach to start - couple gauge / warning lights - stock tach. Anything wrong with that? Just trying to cover our bases. Start simple of course. I know for RBR it’s been a work in progress as to the benefits. If the driver is paying attention he will catch stuff. The biggest advantage for us has been on the fly driver coaching. We can see based on GPS feed of speed where a driver is gaining/losing time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchkis23 Posted July 3, 2019 Report Share Posted July 3, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, E. Tyler Pedersen said: Using a tablet as a dash? Ish, we still have an actual tach, real oil pressure, real fuel pressure, real voltage, and real water temp gauges. The Race Pak does give those too, but mainly using it as a laptimer/data logger. We then analyze the mechanical gauges vs. what the Race Pak is reading. Don't have full faith to go all digital on this stuff yet. As someone who works in an industry where people want everything to be "wireless", I go with the thought process that generally, your wires aren't going to break on you and leave you in the dust, but if you lose your Wifi or internet connection, now your $$$ wireless automation system no longer works. Edited July 3, 2019 by hotchkis23 added content 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewheelerZ Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 4 hours ago, Todd K said: We are working on finishing up our first build and hoping to make a race before end of the year. I'm curious as to the advantage of live telemetry. I understand data capture can be helpful for chassis or engine tuning but not seeing the budget racing aspect of spending as much on electronics and radios than what we have into the entire build plus spares. We're planning on just taking the simple approach to start - couple gauge / warning lights - stock tach. Anything wrong with that? Just trying to cover our bases. Keep it simple at first, no worries on that front. Normal gauges is all we use for oil pressure and water temp tach with a shift light makes life simple. We have an idiot light for low fuel and just installed a light for low battery voltage. Oh, and keep reminding the drivers to actually LOOK at the gauges! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mopar 4 Life Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 I use a AIM MXS system and smarty cam. Pretty easy stuff to use. Camera turns on/off automatically. Lots of support. Alarms are easy to set. It monitors the stuff your drivers should be doing but they aren’t. Warning lights that strobe live a electric dance party get there attention quick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankrehnelt Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 (edited) Our AIM flashes red and displays “WTF” if a driver goes over 6250 rpm. Edited July 4, 2019 by frankrehnelt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlorahDorah Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 1 hour ago, frankrehnelt said: Our AIM flashes red and displays “WTF” if a driver goes over 6250 rpm. Want. Truthfully, I want a 'conserve the car' map that can be activated from the pits. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the5 Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 11 hours ago, FlorahDorah said: Want. Truthfully, I want a 'conserve the car' map that can be activated from the pits. Can easily be done with a 0 Point Aftermarket ECU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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