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I am possibly in the market for a digital dash.  I want this to replace my gauges on my new build.

 

At the same time, I need a new lap timer device.

 

I would also like the ability for the unit to log data.

 

What do I need?  Is there a fairly inexpensive way to do this?  Or am I stuck with the 2k plus units.

 

I am using a stock gm obd2 pcm.  It would be great if I can get the gauge data from the pcm and log it.

 

Any help in explaining this to me would be greatly appreciated.  I am a bit of a neophyte when it comes to integrating this tech into a racecar.

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8 minutes ago, wvumtnbkr said:

Is there a fairly inexpensive way to do this? 

 

Run stock dash with an oil pressure switch to a dummy light on the dash. 

Total $$ involved = 20

 

Just use your phone as your lap timer

log data? pfffff ain't nobody got time for that

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I'm looking at the racecapture /trackmk2 and using a tablet.

 

Seems about half the cost and does what I want.

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8 minutes ago, wvumtnbkr said:

I'm looking at the racecapture /trackmk2 and using a tablet.

 

Seems about half the cost and does what I want.

I'm happy with our racecapture pro. The live telemetry is very nice, and they're good about updating and improving the features/interface over time. 

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3 minutes ago, wvumtnbkr said:

Is that the one you use?

Almost - I have the data box and small lap timer display.  I am looking at adding the Dash2 to replace stock gauges since 3/4 of my stock gauges like to cutout randomly during the race

 

Dash2Pro does all the function of the box plus the display in one unit.

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We run an Aim MXL2 with race capture on megasquirt.

 

We do have an older aim MXL Pista unit that we are sending out for repairs that we will be looking to sell. It has a lap timer and everything but i dont know what kind of datalogging it does. That could be had on the cheap.

 

Look us up @ indy if you want to talk.

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Running Bulls runs RaceCapture Mk2 as well. We have pretty nice pitbox that tends to get at least 2-3 pics a weekend from various people. We monitor all the data in the pits and have now set it up for pit to car text. Hoping there is enough cell service for all of us...

 

We will be at Indy as well. Pit stall 34 with Brew Krewe and JAS.

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I raced  @FlorahDorah's RX7 with a AEM CD7 and it saved the car both races. Alarms came up warning my of various temp issues so I was able to flip to the DIAG screen and see all the temps and adjust my driving, while looking at lap times to get them out of the red. The LED RPM gauge is really nice too. 

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1 hour ago, jakks said:

Running Bulls runs RaceCapture Mk2 as well. We have pretty nice pitbox that tends to get at least 2-3 pics a weekend from various people. We monitor all the data in the pits and have now set it up for pit to car text. Hoping there is enough cell service for all of us...

 

We will be at Indy as well. Pit stall 34 with Brew Krewe and JAS.

I gotta come check this out.  What do you use as the display in the car?

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We are actually developing a program through race capture to tell us how long we have remaining on fuel at your current pace. That way if we are trying to stretch fuel we have the read out telling us how many minutes at the average burn rate we have left.

 

There are a lot of really cool things you can use it for, id highly recommend getting it.

2 hours ago, jakks said:

Running Bulls runs RaceCapture Mk2 as well. We have pretty nice pitbox that tends to get at least 2-3 pics a weekend from various people. We monitor all the data in the pits and have now set it up for pit to car text. Hoping there is enough cell service for all of us...

 

We will be at Indy as well. Pit stall 34 with Brew Krewe and JAS.

 

Ive seen and wanted this setup!

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I swear we had a defective race capture.  We spent two years working with it and only got it to work for one actual race.  Tried wifi, cellular, and the bluetooth options.  We are currently running Race Pak and have been really happy with it.  Set up is simple and the data tool is easy to use. RacePak Vantage

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13 minutes ago, hotchkis23 said:

I swear we had a defective race capture.  We spent two years working with it and only got it to work for one actual race.  Tried wifi, cellular, and the bluetooth options.  We are currently running Race Pak and have been really happy with it.  Set up is simple and the data tool is easy to use. RacePak Vantage

Using a tablet as a dash?

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We are working on finishing up our first build and hoping to make a race before end of the year.  I'm curious as to the advantage of live telemetry.  I understand data capture can be helpful for chassis or engine tuning but not seeing the budget racing aspect of spending as much on electronics and radios than what we have into the entire build plus spares.  We're planning on just taking the simple approach to start - couple gauge / warning lights - stock tach.  Anything wrong with that?  Just trying to cover our bases.

 

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1 hour ago, wvumtnbkr said:

I gotta come check this out.  What do you use as the display in the car?

Some older Android tablet is what I’m told.

1 hour ago, Gkuhn41 said:

We are actually developing a program through race capture to tell us how long we have remaining on fuel at your current pace. That way if we are trying to stretch fuel we have the read out telling us how many minutes at the average burn rate we have left.

 

There are a lot of really cool things you can use it for, id highly recommend getting it.

 

Ive seen and wanted this setup!

I’ve investigated doing something similar, but the idiot light seems to work well. When idiot light goes solid we have 25 min left of fuel. For our car it would take two flow meters to work. After Indy I’m getting the fuel level senders set up so at least we have some data for fuel level. Ran out of time prior to.

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4 minutes ago, Todd K said:

We are working on finishing up our first build and hoping to make a race before end of the year.  I'm curious as to the advantage of live telemetry.  I understand data capture can be helpful for chassis or engine tuning but not seeing the budget racing aspect of spending as much on electronics and radios than what we have into the entire build plus spares.  We're planning on just taking the simple approach to start - couple gauge / warning lights - stock tach.  Anything wrong with that?  Just trying to cover our bases.

 

Start simple of course. I know for RBR it’s been a work in progress as to the benefits. If the driver is paying attention he will catch stuff. The biggest advantage for us has been on the fly driver coaching. We can see based on GPS feed of speed where a driver is gaining/losing time.

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1 hour ago, E. Tyler Pedersen said:

Using a tablet as a dash?

Ish, we still have an actual tach, real oil pressure, real fuel pressure, real voltage, and real water temp gauges.  The Race Pak does give those too, but mainly using it as a laptimer/data logger.  We then analyze the mechanical gauges vs. what the Race Pak is reading.  Don't have full faith to go all digital on this stuff yet.

 

As someone who works in an industry where people want everything to be "wireless", I go with the thought process that generally, your wires aren't going to break on you and leave you in the dust, but if you lose your Wifi or internet connection, now your $$$ wireless automation system no longer works.

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4 hours ago, Todd K said:

We are working on finishing up our first build and hoping to make a race before end of the year.  I'm curious as to the advantage of live telemetry.  I understand data capture can be helpful for chassis or engine tuning but not seeing the budget racing aspect of spending as much on electronics and radios than what we have into the entire build plus spares.  We're planning on just taking the simple approach to start - couple gauge / warning lights - stock tach.  Anything wrong with that?  Just trying to cover our bases.

 

 

Keep it simple at first, no worries on that front. Normal gauges is all we use for oil pressure and water temp  tach with a shift light makes life simple. We have an idiot light for low fuel and just installed a light for low battery voltage. 

 

Oh, and keep reminding the drivers to actually LOOK at the gauges!

 

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I use a AIM MXS system and smarty cam. Pretty easy stuff to use. Camera turns on/off automatically. Lots of support. Alarms are easy to set. It monitors the stuff your drivers should be doing but they aren’t. Warning lights that strobe live a electric dance party get there attention quick. 

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1 hour ago, frankrehnelt said:

Our AIM flashes red and displays “WTF” if a driver goes over 6250 rpm. 

 

Want. 

 

Truthfully, I want a 'conserve the car' map that can be activated from the pits. 

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11 hours ago, FlorahDorah said:

 

Want. 

 

Truthfully, I want a 'conserve the car' map that can be activated from the pits. 

 

Can easily be done with a 0 Point Aftermarket ECU :)

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