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My team has been messing with swapping camelbacks in and out of the car held in with bungy cords.  I'm looking for something easier to swap/use.  I noticed the team pitted next to us at Indy had what looked to be a small thermos style cooler that they swapped out that went into a basket mounted on the cross bar, looked like a pretty slick setup.  

 

None of my team has helmets with drink holes, so we need something "easy" to reach on a straight and sip from.

 

What does everyone use?  

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Before this race we had a team member on Running Bulls modified a Longacre bottle with a pump in it to help not have to suck on that tube for hours. Worked good. Takes a little longer to add water to it. We also added a quick disconnect on the end of the hose to facilitate each driver having his own bite valve. Still can use old method to get water if pump fails.

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5 minutes ago, Snorman said:

You can route the hose and bite valve under the right side shoulder harness or find another way to secure it within easy reach. 

 

We use this, but the bite valve - ughhhh. Got to go. Hate it. I am not keeping that thing in my mouth for the entire session (radios, annoying, etc), then when you need it it's a nightmare to re-fish into your helmet with the bite valve, then get it orientated in your mouth doing 120mph... 

 

Mount it low, no issues with siphoning. 

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Oh, just to add to this - once you get the cool trick Longacre aluminum mount, the bottles are just Coleman 42 oz flip-top, I bought extras from Walmart and drill a hole with some clear plastic tubing from Lowe's or Ace (use a zippy tie for a hose stop to keep the hose in the thermos). Or make your own small mount combined with the cheapy thermos and keep it extra-champy.

 

Ebay link for reference:

https://www.ebay.com/i/291951977102?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&itemid=291951977102&targetid=595232420789&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9011523&poi=&campaignid=1689799120&mkgroupid=66574332155&rlsatarget=pla-595232420789&abcId=1140466&merchantid=111836017&gclid=Cj0KCQjwyLDpBRCxARIsAEENsrK2th9sI_4slGLgKwsPa6SClShpGaVQN3JpLLD3hhM7LK50L-u-wWUaAuvxEALw_wcB

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, jakks said:

Before this race we had a team member on Running Bulls modified a Longacre bottle with a pump in it to help not have to suck on that tube for hours. Worked good. Takes a little longer to add water to it. We also added a quick disconnect on the end of the hose to facilitate each driver having his own bite valve. Still can use old method to get water if pump fails.

I raced a car that had a similar setup with a button on the steering wheel a few years ago. You'd push the button and use the bite valve. 

Ask me what happens at 1 am at VIR when the bite valves slips out of your mouth while you're holding the button and activating the pump...

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27 minutes ago, Snorman said:

I raced a car that had a similar setup with a button on the steering wheel a few years ago. You'd push the button and use the bite valve. 

Ask me what happens at 1 am at VIR when the bite valves slips out of your mouth while you're holding the button and activating the pump...

Oh, we anticipated that. The pump is on a PWM controller. It went from drown you in 2 seconds to drown you in 5 seconds. Our button is on the dash panel and I only used it on FCY along with the rest of us. 

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1 minute ago, jakks said:

Our button is on the dash panel and I only used it on FCY along with the rest of us. 

Great idea. I got sprayed in the face with water on the back straight at VIR. I was wearing glasses, and the water sprayed up under my helmet, hit my face and glasses and made a general mess. Amazingly, about a lap later, we got a FCY. I was able to acceptably dry my glasses using the cuff of my racing gloves. 

I think even today, I'm leery of using the water bottle with anything but a bite valve, lol. I have a Stillo with the integrated hydration fitting, but don't use it. This weekend, we raced with WRL at Road Atlanta. I would put the bite valve under my helmet from T5 to T6 so I could hopefully get cold water before spitting it out coming down the hill to T10. 

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Longacre bottle with the rollbar mount is what we use. We have two bottles to switch during pit stops. At Indy I had to back flush so it wasn't boiling hot water. Took me a couple of seconds to do that but it was cold my whole stint. 

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https://90racing.com/products/longacre-replacement-water-bottle?_pos=6&_sid=8d61a10af&_ss=r

https://90racing.com/products/longacre-aluminum-drink-holder?_pos=3&_sid=8d61a10af&_ss=r

 

LON52-22551-Longacre-Roll-bar-racing-dri

 

 

Free shipping from 90racing.com for this setup. I have used it and it works great. You just need to have a clip or somewhere to put the hose within sight of the driver so they can grab it during a yellow flag etc. 

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We have 2 kits and swap completely between stops, at least the 1 time we've gotten to use it.  I plan to get some insulation for the hose like you find on the coolshirt lines.  Sucking 120°+ water for the first few pulls isn't pleasant.    Guess you could "backflow" (aka backwash, lol) the water, but I think some insulation will make a huge difference.  I might switch to a growler size vacuum insulated bottle.  Monoprice has one that's cheap, doubles the capacity and just barely fits in the cage (may have to replace the screws). 

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4 hours ago, red0 said:

https://90racing.com/products/longacre-replacement-water-bottle?_pos=6&_sid=8d61a10af&_ss=r

https://90racing.com/products/longacre-aluminum-drink-holder?_pos=3&_sid=8d61a10af&_ss=r

 

LON52-22551-Longacre-Roll-bar-racing-dri

 

 

Free shipping from 90racing.com for this setup. I have used it and it works great. You just need to have a clip or somewhere to put the hose within sight of the driver so they can grab it during a yellow flag etc. 

I bought this kit to be compatible while renting last year, so far, it has been forgotten at home all but once since, works well but the bite valve takes some getting used to.

 

What we usually do:

Large cup holder beside driver + quart size Gatorade + unibit+ 12 in of stiff-ish vinyl hose stuffed tightly through the cap makes something one can cram under the helmet and drink during the longer straights.

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1 hour ago, Team Infiniti said:

I bought this kit to be compatible while renting last year, so far, it has been forgotten at home all but once since, works well but the bite valve takes some getting used to.

  

What we usually do:

Large cup holder beside driver + quart size Gatorade + unibit+ 12 in of stiff-ish vinyl hose stuffed tightly through the cap makes something one can cram under the helmet and drink during the longer straights.

 

I guess that's one way of doing it. 

I use the long acre bottle linked above and connect it to my helmet hydration system. I have the Stilo in the link below. 

 

https://90racing.com/products/stilo-st5-gt-composite-helmet-sa2015?_pos=2&_sid=382a00d13&_ss=r

 

The setup works incredible and I don't even need to take my hands off the wheel to get a drink! 

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I used a drink bottle once and almost crashed the car trying to find the hose and get it to my mouth! Haven’t used one since, I don’t need it if the coolsuit is nice and frosty.

We rarely see FCY in the Midwest, I think I would use a drink bottle again if going to a race with expected FCYs and use it only during FCY. 

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6 minutes ago, enginerd said:

I used a drink bottle once and almost crashed the car trying to find the hose and get it to my mouth! Haven’t used one since, I don’t need it if the coolsuit is nice and frosty.

We rarely see FCY in the Midwest, I think I would use a drink bottle again if going to a race with expected FCYs and use it only during FCY. 

 

Get a helmet with integrated drink hose.  done.

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49 minutes ago, enginerd said:

I used a drink bottle once and almost crashed the car trying to find the hose and get it to my mouth! Haven’t used one since, I don’t need it if the coolsuit is nice and frosty.

 We rarely see FCY in the Midwest, I think I would use a drink bottle again if going to a race with expected FCYs and use it only during FCY. 

 

Where did you get your coolsuit setup that stays nice and frosty?

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Yea, I'm sick of seeing all these endorsements for 90racing.com also.

 

I mean, I know that 90racing.com exists, but you don't see me talking about 90racing.com all the time.

 

I guess what I'm saying is that I would appreciate it if we laid off on the 90racing.com posts.

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I have to agree about all this shameless plugging of 90racing.com. I had never heard of 90racing.com until I saw all these posts about product available from 90racing.com.

 

Does 90racing.com have a website or something that I could peruse?

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7 minutes ago, Richard said:

I have to agree about all this shameless plugging of 90racing.com. I had never heard of 90racing.com until I saw all these posts about product available from 90racing.com.

 

Does 90racing.com have a website or something that I could peruse?

You might want to ask @red0.  

 

I think it might be 90racing.com.

 

Maybe ask @enginerd if he knows the website for 90racing.com

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