Berusch Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 1991-1994 Protégé. 1.8L DOHC 125HP The swap calculator claims base weight at 2089. Edmunds claims 2480. Automobile-catalog claims 2487. 90% of that would be 2232 and 2238, respectively. Is there a process to request review, or is this a petition? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67Mustang Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 Don’t know but I just looked it up and Wikapedia has 2064 lbs. maybe there was a variation that was that light. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berusch Posted August 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, 67Mustang said: Don’t know but I just looked it up and Wikapedia has 2064 lbs. maybe there was a variation that was that light. Not in the US. Other markets got a 1.3L bare bones version with rear drum brakes, and it was lighter. I assumed the lighter weight was due to confusion from a foreign market car. This is the US market car:https://www.automobile-catalog.com/car/1992/1646135/mazda_protege_lx.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karman1970 Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 I believe same happened with the Scirocco; weight only matches first year Euro base model. Don’t know that it ever got fixed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berusch Posted August 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, Berusch said: Not in the US. Other markets got a 1.3L bare bones version with rear drum brakes, and it was lighter. I assumed the lighter weight was due to confusion from a foreign market car. This is the US market car:https://www.automobile-catalog.com/car/1992/1646135/mazda_protege_lx.html And here is the foreign market 1.3L car, 2094 lbs...https://www.automobile-catalog.com/car/1992/1643915/mazda_familia_4door_1300_clair.html As the rules are written for US/Canadian cars and US/Canadian engines only, it seems I should be judged by that standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67Mustang Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, Berusch said: Not in the US. Other markets got a 1.3L bare bones version with rear drum brakes, and it was lighter. I assumed the lighter weight was due to confusion from a foreign market car. This is the US market car:https://www.automobile-catalog.com/car/1992/1646135/mazda_protege_lx.html I could buy that as a probability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karman1970 Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, Berusch said: And here is the foreign market 1.3L car, 2094 lbs...https://www.automobile-catalog.com/car/1992/1643915/mazda_familia_4door_1300_clair.html As the rules are written for US/Canadian cars and US/Canadian engines only, it seems I should be judged by that standard. They probably are not aware. Email tech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berusch Posted August 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 I fired off some emails. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 weights have nothing to do with whatever the cars weigh anymore. Some cars use actual weight, some use actual minus 10%, some use some made up number so a certain swap can be allowed to skirt the rules. There's no longer 1 ruleset for all cars when it comes to swap, different rules for different makes/models. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berusch Posted August 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Snake said: weights have nothing to do with whatever the cars weigh anymore. Some cars use actual weight, some use actual minus 10%, some use some made up number so a certain swap can be allowed to skirt the rules. There's no longer 1 ruleset for all cars when it comes to swap, different rules for different makes/models. Poking around at the calculator, I noticed inconsistencies. I think this may have just been an oversight in this case. I requested a correction to published curb weight less 10%, per the BCCR. 4.5.2.1. “weight” is the advertised vehicle curb weight minus 10%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDChristianson Posted August 10, 2019 Report Share Posted August 10, 2019 It’s just a fudge factor and I believe the name is being changed as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mashley Adison Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 How Do i get the correct weight for the 1996 Chevy S10 . It is listed at 2700# for the swap math and it is actaually over 3100 with the 4.3 . I did the Ford Ranger, 245HP Vette engine swap and it came out under the break. The S10 comers out over the break with anything over the 195 HP 4.3 . Thanks,MM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67Mustang Posted August 12, 2019 Report Share Posted August 12, 2019 I think I've read they go minus 10%, so maybe that is close to working out. Also noticed it's not an exact science and in most cases if you find something clearly messed up or out of wack, the best bet is to put in a request for review... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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