turbogrill Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 Hi, They just released a new K swap: https://kmiata.com/blogs/news/game-changer-the-new-k24z3-swap-is-here Comments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmi11er Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 Currently the price is listed at $4300.. but maybe they'll split out parts from the kit. I didn't see any mention of that yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvumtnbkr Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 That hydraulic throw out bearing could be used on the NA rx7 gearboxes too. Just saying. Looks cool. Nice pwr. That's power to wallet ratio. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbogrill Posted August 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 Cost will be $2000, engine can be had for a few hundreds. They mention it in the article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmi11er Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 (edited) 37 minutes ago, turbogrill said: Cost will be $2000, engine can be had for a few hundreds. They mention it in the article. I'm fairly certain they said $2000 less than their other swap.. emphasis theirs: The goal was to create a K swap that could be completed by the customer for $2000 less than a K24A2 swap and checked all of our performance boxes. Availability and Pricing Introductory pricing on the K24Z3 swap kit is $4295.00 and includes the following items: (list follows) Edited August 13, 2019 by cmi11er 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbogrill Posted August 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, cmi11er said: I'm fairly certain they said $2000 less than their other swap.. emphasis theirs: The goal was to create a K swap that could be completed by the customer for $2000 less than a K24A2 swap and checked all of our performance boxes. Availability and Pricing Introductory pricing on the K24Z3 swap kit is $4295.00 and includes the following items: (list follows) oh! Thank you for the correction. Then the other swap is really expensive 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginerd Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 I wonder if someone will petition for a 2021 swap cost cap of $4500.... 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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QuaTTro Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 59 minutes ago, enginerd said: I wonder if someone will petition for a 2021 swap cost cap of $4500.... No need. I was told by Jay at the last Harris Hill race that they were not enforcing the $1500 limit because "nobody is swapping under $1500 and they're probably raising that limit in 2020 anyway". This was disappointing, as there were a few cars that spent more than $1500. I asked that the costs be checked/enforced and was told "sorry, we're not doing that". So effectively the limit is already "wide open" from what I can tell. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvumtnbkr Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 My swap was well under 1500. Hi think it was under 1k. 300$ engine. 200$ trans. 100$ clutch. Some belts and pulleys. 105$ ecu tune. Odds and ends like clutch hydraulic line and oil cooler hoses made up the rest. Oh, 200$ driveshaft. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karman1970 Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 11 minutes ago, wvumtnbkr said: My swap was well under 1500. Hi think it was under 1k. 300$ engine. 200$ trans. 100$ clutch. Some belts and pulleys. 105$ ecu tune. Odds and ends like clutch hydraulic line and oil cooler hoses made up the rest. Oh, 200$ driveshaft. How dare you be low-budget and cost effective! This is Champcar, not Cheapcar. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuaTTro Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 14 minutes ago, wvumtnbkr said: My swap was well under 1500. Hi think it was under 1k. 300$ engine. 200$ trans. 100$ clutch. Some belts and pulleys. 105$ ecu tune. Odds and ends like clutch hydraulic line and oil cooler hoses made up the rest. Oh, 200$ driveshaft. I agree that many are under $1500 because most teams try to follow the rules. @Jer is another good example of a swap under the $1500 rule. Again, I was surprised and disappointed to be told that Tech didn't care about swap values. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbogrill Posted August 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 How can you do a swap under $1500 if you need any fabbing done? Just an after market oil pan is like $500 - $1000.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuaTTro Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, turbogrill said: How can you do a swap under $1500 if you need any fabbing done? Just an after market oil pan is like $500 - $1000.... Not to mention the $999 wiring harness and high performance racing header required to make the swap work https://www.ecotecmiata.ca/product-page/ecotecmiata-wiring-harness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jer Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 41 minutes ago, QuaTTro said: I agree that many are under $1500 because most teams try to follow the rules. @Jer is another good example of a swap under the $1500 rule. Again, I was surprised and disappointed to be told that Tech didn't care about swap values. What is the listed HP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuaTTro Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 15 minutes ago, Jer said: What is the listed HP? Not sure I follow your question. My comment doesn't have anything to do with HP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAMR2 Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 47 minutes ago, turbogrill said: How can you do a swap under $1500 if you need any fabbing done? Just an after market oil pan is like $500 - $1000.... Fab it yourself, like the series was built on 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron_e Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 1 hour ago, QuaTTro said: I agree that many are under $1500 because most teams try to follow the rules. @Jer is another good example of a swap under the $1500 rule. Again, I was surprised and disappointed to be told that Tech didn't care about swap values. It sure would be nice if there were a list of rules that tech doesn't follow. 49 minutes ago, turbogrill said: How can you do a swap under $1500 if you need any fabbing done? Just an after market oil pan is like $500 - $1000.... We made our own, and not out of goofy "repurposed" materials. I think maybe $20 in materials? All is claimed correctly. This is why when the TBird was pushed up 100 points AND a homemade oil pan and other things were going to be no longer materials points I was taking a heavy hit on points everywhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Infiniti Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 Heavy hit because you refuse to use the available repurposed material clause? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron_e Posted August 13, 2019 Report Share Posted August 13, 2019 19 minutes ago, Team Infiniti said: Heavy hit because you refuse to use the available repurposed material clause? No because we correctly claim stuff. When the first set of rules came out in 2018 if it was in section 4 then you had to use the assigned points whether it was homemade from purchased/reclaimed materials or retailed as per the deep sump oil pan, they all became 25 points. I think ours is 2 points right now from purchased steel added to the car. That was also when my power steering cooler was 20 points whether "repurposed" heater core or purchased. I have the e-mails if you would like to see. Not sure whether it was the west tax or the TBird tax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvumtnbkr Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 3 hours ago, turbogrill said: How can you do a swap under $1500 if you need any fabbing done? Just an after market oil pan is like $500 - $1000.... Pick am engine that doesn't need it, or do it yourself! 3 hours ago, QuaTTro said: Not to mention the $999 wiring harness and high performance racing header required to make the swap work https://www.ecotecmiata.ca/product-page/ecotecmiata-wiring-harness Didn't need either ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchkis23 Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 3 hours ago, QuaTTro said: Not to mention the $999 wiring harness and high performance racing header required to make the swap work https://www.ecotecmiata.ca/product-page/ecotecmiata-wiring-harness Don't "need" either, that is for the tuner crowd that doesn't want to do any work. Outside of the cost of the kit and the donor motor, this swap is less than $1500 by quite a bit. Well, at least before all the Tarrif BS.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest E. Tyler Pedersen Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 I have spent $0 on a swap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhr650 Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 17 hours ago, wvumtnbkr said: That hydraulic throw out bearing could be used on the NA rx7 gearboxes too. Just saying. Looks cool. Nice pwr. That's power to wallet ratio. Saw that, thought about it and couldn’t come up with a compelling reason why it would be better. The one change I always make is to install M8 studs on the bell housing to hold the slave cylinder since the stock screws seem to thread into butter… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvumtnbkr Posted August 14, 2019 Report Share Posted August 14, 2019 I'm not sure why you need to either, but it is an interesting piece that might solve a problem if you were to swap it into a different chassis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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