TimS Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 Anyone have a rebuildable core or better yet a reasonably priced good running engine? Looking to build a spare engine for next year. Any contacts for engine builder or help with a refresh would be appreciated as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Advisory Committee Chris Huggins Posted October 16, 2019 Technical Advisory Committee Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 They are all over NCE30 for ~4-500 bucks. For a fee I could build you one if you want. How fa$$t do you want to go? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Advisory Committee Andrew D Johnson Posted October 16, 2019 Technical Advisory Committee Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 I would take up Huggy on his offer, his sh*t runs great! Maybe have him put you together a primary engine and make your existing a spare? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimS Posted October 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) I want it to last first off. If it makes at minimum the rated HP That would work for us. I definitely would pay $400-$500 for a core. I’m not familiar with NCE30. You are located in North Carolina correct? Edited October 16, 2019 by TimS Read original post again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Advisory Committee Andrew D Johnson Posted October 16, 2019 Technical Advisory Committee Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 25 minutes ago, TimS said: I want it to last first off. If it makes at minimum the rated HP That would work for us. I definitely would pay $400-$500 for a core. I’m not familiar with NCE30. You are located in North Carolina correct? That might be a tough goal unless you include drive loss from crank to wheel hp. The E30 I have worked on required a ton of effort to make 158hp and they are rated at 169 IIRC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi_Im_Will Posted October 16, 2019 Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, red0 said: That might be a tough goal unless you include drive loss from crank to wheel hp. The E30 I have worked on required a ton of effort to make 158hp and they are rated at 169 IIRC. SE30 kicks you out at 160whp and adds ballast at 158whp if I remember right. We make 163whp with a blueprinted motor, port cleanup, and standalone ECU. Most of our janky refreshed junkyard motors on stock electronics made ~154whp back in the day. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimS Posted October 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2019 I’m sure either hp number is more than my current junkyard unknown mileage lump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chip Posted October 17, 2019 Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 8 hours ago, TimS said: I want it to last first off. If it makes at minimum the rated HP That would work for us. I definitely would pay $400-$500 for a core. I’m not familiar with NCE30. You are located in North Carolina correct? NCE30 is a Facebook group- if you're not on FB just let us know and we'll find you something in that price range Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimS Posted October 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2019 I’m not a Facebook user but may have to start. I definitely need to find a good core and get up to speed with BMWs. Having raced Mazda RX7s primarily and few late model stock cars I’m behind on the BMWs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wd6681 Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 I have plenty of shortblocks for cheap! You would need to source yourself a head. All of these blocks would need to go 20 over, cannot get away with a hone and ring. Syracuse new York Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimS Posted October 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 I'm trying to find something that will require a little less machine shop work and is closer to home. I do appreciate the offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wd6681 Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 Believe me, it's the unreal price of the Pistons more than anything. Parts cars have always been our best source. Miles shouldn't scare you away, the block in our car has 250,000 miles and then was oil starved and spun a rod bearing. Cylinders were still straight enough to re-hone and run stock pistons with file fit 10 over rings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimS Posted October 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 That is good to know. I’m hoping the current engine is going to be in good condition and an easy refresh. I have a lead on a core engine with 140k mileage from a wreck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Infiniti Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 @TimS How far does your search reach? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimS Posted October 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 Huggy turned me on to a friend of his at VIR. He has the wrecked car with 140k on the odometer. If it’s a good runner I would make longer trip. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd K Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 We are a Honda team. I have an M30 long block that was stripped of the injectors and the starter by a friend. He doesn't want it and I want it gone so I have more room for Honda crap. Seems in good shape, except the oil pan was windowed by hitting something on / off road. Turns over fine by hand. Free pickup or its going to LKQ. I'm in West Palm Beach, acreage area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimS Posted October 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 Thanks Todd but I really want to stay with the M20 at least for now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoup Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 I have a complete engine in Asheville, NC. Was pulled from a running car but showed metal content in oil analysis so I pulled it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimS Posted November 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 I have one of those too(spun at least one main bearing). I located a slightly better used engine a few weeks back. I'm now trying to figure out a good reliable and relatively cheap swap engine. The m20 is just to expensive to rebuild and good used ones are just as rare as rainbow unicorns. Thanks for the offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mender Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 2 hours ago, TimS said: I have one of those too(spun at least one main bearing). I located a slightly better used engine a few weeks back. I'm now trying to figure out a good reliable and relatively cheap swap engine. The m20 is just to expensive to rebuild and good used ones are just as rare as rainbow unicorns. Thanks for the offer. LA1. Cheap, reliable, and everywhere. Ask @wvumtnbkr for details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimS Posted November 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 LA1? I'm not familiar. Ecotec Family? I search google too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimS Posted November 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 Definitely cheap and plentiful. Gotta figure how to attach it to a getrag trans 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mender Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 Maybe these guys can supply one: https://pmcmotorsport-shop.com/eng_m_Swap-Solutions_Gearbox-Adapter-Plates-210.html?filter_traits[53]=&filter_traits[55]=703&filter_traits[92]= Or maybe a partially finished blank: BMW getrag pattern on one side, no holes on the other. Transfer the pattern from an LA1 bellhousing. The adapter may cost more than the first engine but you're good from there on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimS Posted December 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 I have checked pmc website for different ideas. Probably have to make my own adapter. I have spare transmissions. Just need motor to check to see if everything works together. Would be nice if some one else did some of the work ahead of time. We’ll see what happens 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvumtnbkr Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 I or @mender cam help with the flywheel and accessory guidance for these engines. It's definitely not bolt in, but in the end, you have a crazy reliable engine that is cheap to maintain OR replace if needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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