Wink Posted November 4, 2019 Report Share Posted November 4, 2019 So we'll be making the long trek to Sonoma in February. Thought it might be a good idea to create a thread to discuss potential caravan routes, gathering spots, and if there is, in fact, any interest in making the haul as a group. We'll be leaving from Dallas, so most likely I-40 to I-5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jer Posted November 4, 2019 Report Share Posted November 4, 2019 I live in Denver and have been considering shooting through the mountains to save 8 hours to Sonoma. Last year I went through Wyoming, but coming back there was a blizzard. The safest route, although longer, is 40 across and then up through Bakersfield. I'll be doing that for Laguna and likely for Sonoma too. Sucks but it's safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55mini Posted November 5, 2019 Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 (edited) When you guys can figure out mother nature you can take over any weather persons job anywhere. We raced in Las Vegas over New Years a couple years back and took the safe route to get caught in two storms on the way out. Now being from Iowa and driving snow all the time it was not a huge issue. I will say I would not try the I-80 route in February unless I was ready to hang in a truck stop for a few days. Edited November 5, 2019 by 55mini Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jer Posted November 5, 2019 Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 1 hour ago, 55mini said: When you guys can figure out mother nature you can take over any weather persons job anywhere. We raced in Las Vegas over New Years a couple years back and took the safe route to get caught in two storms on the way out. Now being from Iowa and driving snow all the time it was not a huge issue. I will say I would not try the I-80 route in February unless I was ready to hang in a truck stop for a few days. We did it and got lucky on the way out. Coming back we were forced to go south. It's not an easy tow no matter what, we still had snow in western Arizona and again on Raton Pass going into Colorado from New Mexico.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mopar 4 Life Posted November 6, 2019 Report Share Posted November 6, 2019 We are planning to make the tow. I won’t touch anything unless it starts with I-40 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyKid Posted November 6, 2019 Report Share Posted November 6, 2019 (edited) Does winner-take-all start at Sonoma, or in 2021 for the 2020 season? Edited November 6, 2019 by LuckyKid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Round3Racing Posted November 6, 2019 Report Share Posted November 6, 2019 11 minutes ago, LuckyKid said: Does winner-take-all start at Sonoma, or in 2021 for the 202 season? That's a good question. Winner Take All at Sonoma would make it more interesting and could possibly bolster attendance. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wink Posted November 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2019 I believe I read in the event thread.. Best two finishes from '19 + Finish Saturday + Finish Sunday 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronh911 Posted November 6, 2019 Report Share Posted November 6, 2019 On 11/4/2019 at 5:59 PM, Jer said: I live in Denver and have been considering shooting through the mountains to save 8 hours to Sonoma. Last year I went through Wyoming, but coming back there was a blizzard. The safest route, although longer, is 40 across and then up through Bakersfield. I'll be doing that for Laguna and likely for Sonoma too. Sucks but it's safe. Thanks for the advice Jer, I was going to PM you on which route to take. I-40 it is, 49hr tow, 1 way uphill, by myself. I can't wait!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest E. Tyler Pedersen Posted November 7, 2019 Report Share Posted November 7, 2019 3 hours ago, LuckyKid said: Does winner-take-all start at Sonoma, or in 2021 for the 2020 season? 2 hours ago, Round3Racing said: That's a good question. Winner Take All at Sonoma would make it more interesting and could possibly bolster attendance. Winner take all was approved for the 2020 rules. The Sonoma race will be for the 2019 Championship so it's still points based. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Advisory Committee Andrew D Johnson Posted November 7, 2019 Technical Advisory Committee Report Share Posted November 7, 2019 13 hours ago, E. Tyler Pedersen said: Winner take all was approved for the 2020 rules. The Sonoma race will be for the 2019 Championship so it's still points based. Good luck with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest E. Tyler Pedersen Posted November 7, 2019 Report Share Posted November 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, red0 said: Good luck with that Yeah I'm not going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Round3Racing Posted November 7, 2019 Report Share Posted November 7, 2019 19 hours ago, E. Tyler Pedersen said: Winner take all was approved for the 2020 rules. The Sonoma race will be for the 2019 Championship so it's still points based. So, will Sonoma be run under the 2019 BCCR? New rules for 2020 don't apply? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvumtnbkr Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 17 hours ago, Round3Racing said: So, will Sonoma be run under the 2019 BCCR? New rules for 2020 don't apply? I think that's what they have done in years past, except for safety items. Better double check on that. My memory may not be right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest E. Tyler Pedersen Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 18 hours ago, Round3Racing said: So, will Sonoma be run under the 2019 BCCR? New rules for 2020 don't apply? There haven't been many changes in 2020 vs 2019. You'll need to run the FIA fire bottle. You will be black flagged for contact. I'd check with Mike or Jay but the format will be run under 2019 ruleset. Rules my guess would be 2020. That's a daily operations question that I do not get into. Oh and I'm guessing you'll need to have your 2020 tech sticker on your car too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jer Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 I would guess if we tried to change to the 2020 rules at Sonoma, we would get push back from the teams with two wins making the tow. I wish it were winner take all as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jer Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 On 11/6/2019 at 5:43 PM, Ronh911 said: Thanks for the advice Jer, I was going to PM you on which route to take. I-40 it is, 49hr tow, 1 way uphill, by myself. I can't wait!! Wow that's rough. I've towed from Denver alone, but that's only 24 hours to Laguna. I can't imagine doing 49. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Round3Racing Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Jer said: Wow that's rough. I've towed from Denver alone, but that's only 24 hours to Laguna. I can't imagine doing 49. We're looking at 5 days to get there and 5 days to get home, as we need to take the southern route in winter. With the big rig, we're DOT limited to 11 hours of driving per day. It makes for about 10 hours of actual travel time per day. Brutal. Pretty tough to justify, when it is not winner-take-all. And 2 of our cars might not even qualify on points. It is pretty close, but we're currently on the outside looking in.. Not sure if we're going to make this one. How about making everyone that has met the 2-race minimum and makes the trip to Sonoma eligible to race for the Championship, no matter how many points they have? Something like that might encourage more people to make the trip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyk Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 3 hours ago, Round3Racing said: We're looking at 5 days to get there and 5 days to get home, as we need to take the southern route in winter. With the big rig, we're DOT limited to 11 hours of driving per day. It makes for about 10 hours of actual travel time per day. Brutal. Pretty tough to justify, when it is not winner-take-all. And 2 of our cars might not even qualify on points. It is pretty close, but we're currently on the outside looking in.. Not sure if we're going to make this one. How about making everyone that has met the 2-race minimum and makes the trip to Sonoma eligible to race for the Championship, no matter how many points they have? Something like that might encourage more people to make the trip. You can hot seat the rig for more drive hrs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Round3Racing Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 Hot seat? I don't know what that means. The DOT has electronic devices on all commercial trucks now. So, they are electronically tracking trucks. If you go over the hours, you automatically get fined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewheelerZ Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 36 minutes ago, Round3Racing said: Hot seat? I don't know what that means. The DOT has electronic devices on all commercial trucks now. So, they are electronically tracking trucks. If you go over the hours, you automatically get fined. You cant have two drivers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Round3Racing Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, thewheelerZ said: You cant have two drivers? I believe that you can, but it gets a little tricky. It's a good idea, though! One issue is finding truck drivers. We struggle to find one for almost every event. And they are expensive! A good driver gets paid really well. But I like the idea and I have two guys in mind. If it can cut the travel time in half, it is worth it...if one or both guys can actually help at the track and maybe eliminate a crew guy. Thanks for the idea! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvumtnbkr Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 Wow. I'm glad I don't have enough money to need to hire professional truck drivers to get to the races. It would be silly to have a pro driver with my 1500 Chevy pulling an open trailer! Mo money... mo problems! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewheelerZ Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 Hmmm,, cant tell if sarcastic.... what I can say is that its time for @Round3Racing to go apply for his commercial drivers licence!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottyk Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Round3Racing said: Hot seat? I don't know what that means. The DOT has electronic devices on all commercial trucks now. So, they are electronically tracking trucks. If you go over the hours, you automatically get fined. Hot seat = 2 drivers. Sometimes called team drivers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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