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September 19-September 20, 2020
PALM BEACH INTERNATIONAL RACEWAY: Double 7 Enduros, $1125
Jupiter, FL
"The South Florida 7+7-Hour Enduro"
Early Pay Discount Ends: July 21, 2020
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Entries for The South Florida 7+7-Hour Enduros

Updated 6/3/2020   Limited to 50 entries

    Team Name Car # Year Make Model
1.   All In Racing 998 1995 Mazda Miata
2.   Bent Over Racing 985 1997 BMW 325i
3.   DVM Racing 153 2006 Pontiac Solstice
4.   Empty Pockets Racing 52 1995 BMW 325i
5.   Gatewood Family Racing 13 2004 Mazda Miata
6.   Neveready 950 2004 Infinity G35
7.   RennTech 150 1989 Mercedes-Benz 190E
8.   Sharky 2 219 1995 infiniti j30
9.   Tuttle Motorsports 108 1997 mitsubishi eclipse
10.   Tuttle Motorsports 107 1996 mitsubishi eclipse
11.   Valyrian Steel 988 1999 Mazda Miata
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Now that the thread is up, I figured it would be a good time to talk about running the track in reverse on Sunday. I've had some racers contact me elsewhere and I thought maybe I could answer some questions.

 

Some background, I live about 20 minutes from PBIR and I've been going there since I was a kid and it was called Palm Beach International the first time, before it became Morosso, and then Palm Beach International Raceway again.. So I know the track. We've been working with the management at PBIR since early last year on both a date and the configuration. I had some concerns, some of the same concerns that racers have expressed to me, but since last summer I've made around 5 trips to the track just to discuss this race. Last week I brought a second ChampCar staff member with me and we met with 5 members of the PBIR track management. We walked and drove the track in both directions. 

 

We addressed and developed solutions to....

 

Add barriers (tire bundles, wall sections, barricades, etc) to every area of wall or impact zone we even remotely thought would be an issue.

We will add corner worker stations and move existing ones so the corner workers can see and flag properly around the course.

We've addressed the placement of fencing so the reverse direction does not allow cars to jump barriers.

We discussed the placement of service vehicles so they can respond to either direction.

We are adding markers on the track surface to better identify the pit-in and pit-out entry lanes going each way.

We are setting up pit lane so there is space at each end for cars to safely enter and exit, while allowing teams to remain in their same pit location each day.

We've looked at each change from the standpoint of not creating a new or additional problem elsewhere

 

And we are adding the chicane. Probably a good time to talk about the chicane. There's been some speculation about adding the chicane to "slow down cars". But that was not the purpose. As many of you know, the back stretch at PBIR is very long, so long that the high-horsepower cars can just run off. We wanted to change the tack configuration in such a way that the smaller displacement cars have an opportunity also. Essentially I wanted to be able to give you two completely different races in one weekend.

 

With all this said, we are not done. PBIR is going to physically set up the track as we agreed at our last meeting. I will go back again, and both walk and drive the track with some speed and make sure we are all comfortable with it. If we identify any new issues, we will make additional adjustments.

 

We are very aware that running a new configuration is a cool thing, and that it can create new and unforeseen challenges. I won't let the cool factor override the safety challenges. You guys are my customers, and many of you are close personal friends to me. I promise you I take your safety seriously. If I wouldn't run the track myself, I wouldn't ask you to.

 

Looking forward to seeing you in Palm Beach!

 

Dana

 

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Seriously considering this race.  How is this track on tires?  Think I'm going to have to get to a track day there in the next couple of months, for sure.

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Wow Dana, interesting concept. Thanks for doing this. Excited to participate 

 

I too have been going to this track since 1993. I believe motorcycle groups used to run it counter-clockwise.

 

As far as tire wear, my educated guess would be the LF is gonna take a beating on Sat, RF on Sunday. Longest race I have run on the new configuration (PBIR) is three hours and the LF Hoosier held up well.

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1 hour ago, Mazmarc said:

Wow Dana, interesting concept. Thanks for doing this. Excited to participate 

 

I too have been going to this track since 1993. I believe motorcycle groups used to run it counter-clockwise.

 

As far as tire wear, my educated guess would be the LF is gonna take a beating on Sat, RF on Sunday. Longest race I have run on the new configuration (PBIR) is three hours and the LF Hoosier held up well.

 

You're right, the motorcycles ran in the reverse direction. And in the way-way-back days the  south end of the track looped around through what is now the drag race staging area, ran parallel to the drag strip, then joined into the drag strip near the shut down area, and connected back to the track we run today at the far north end.

 

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My team ran a 24 hour race there with Lemons. Tire wear was nothing abnormal. Looking at my notes from that race we used one set of used Dunlop Dureza tires.

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Last time out was on RS3, terrible wear but those tires are nothing like the RS4 so, generically speaking, we mostly noticed LF wear from the big sweeper, bringing all our half tires in effort to get our $$ worth out of em.

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Thanks guys.  I have a set of the new compound Maxxis still on the car from the snowpocalypse in Atlanta.  I may try to run a day on those since they have limited wear and get a new set of RS4s as well.  It sounds like wear will be similar to Barber in that the sweeper can easily cause overheating if pushed hard but the surface isn't really abrasive.

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The reverse direction might be fun.

The normal configuration is kinda Blah.

Regardless, I’ll still run there.

When it’s only 45 minutes from my shop, I kinda Have to run it.

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So, I guess it's time we got some news about the Palm Beach race out to folks. Since we have the new date for Daytona and the new date for Charlotte lands right on top of PBIR, we are going to have to shift the date. We just cannot handle that many races so close geographically on two weekends.

 

I have been in touch with the track and we have some dates we are looking at. I can't confirm anything, but I also don't want this to be a last minute surprise. The best I can tell you right now is that we have some dates in late August and mid September that seem to be workable. As soon as we get some solid information I'll get it out to you.

 

What I can tell you is, both ChampCar and Palm Beach International Raceway, are committed to getting this race run. I know this could be a cause of additional uncertainty, but on the positive side, if you were trying to figure out which Florida races to run at least you know now that the dates will not conflict.

 

Thanks for your understanding.

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Good Job Dana,  I know your doing the best with what you have to deal with.

 

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We are planning to enter this race. Looking forward to running a new track for us and getting some beach time to boot. Hope you do not schedule it the weekend of August 23  most if not all of our team will be at the rescheduled Indy 500.

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I didn't know that was the new date. Thanks, I've made a note in my work book and I'll take that into consideration as we plan things.

 

Dana

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24 minutes ago, DuncanDana said:

 

....snip.... my work book and I'll take that into consideration as we plan things.

 

 

Please keep a little cushion between the new date and Sebring.

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7 minutes ago, Team Infiniti said:

Please keep a little cushion between the new date and Sebring.

 

Yeah, I've had that part of the conversation with the track. Fortunately the track manager also races with us, and he wants to run Sebring also so he has the same motivation.

 

Dana

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How about early Dec replacing the Sebring races we lost?    It would probably be better attended

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Whew, I was stressing on getting the car prepped in five days. Thanks  Dana. A December race in Palm Beach would be brilliant.

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On 3/9/2020 at 9:51 PM, MPRLkld said:

Seriously considering this race.  How is this track on tires?  Think I'm going to have to get to a track day there in the next couple of months, for sure.

It will run out the LF tire on the normal configuration on the longer races. Probably not during a 7-Hour.

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@DuncanDana any update on a date for this? As things start to loosen up, a lot of stuff is going to be rescheduled aside from Champcar races, so just want to make sure I don't have any conflicts. 
Thanks!

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On ‎4‎/‎27‎/‎2020 at 9:16 PM, Snorman said:

@DuncanDana any update on a date for this? As things start to loosen up, a lot of stuff is going to be rescheduled aside from Champcar races, so just want to make sure I don't have any conflicts. 
Thanks!

Crickets.

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8 minutes ago, mickindy14 said:

Crickets.

I don't think Dana watches the forums too closely.. has anyone tried emailing him? I could go for a december race in FL!

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Dana is off doing Coast Guard military things right now. he will be back soon and will let us know what's going on.

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