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15.jpg   April 17-April 18, 2021
ROAD AMERICA: 8+7 Enduro, $1475
Elkhart Lake, WI
"Road America - National Championship"
Early Pay Discount Ends: February 16, 2021
Event Director: chelsey.vickery@champcar.org
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Entries for Road America - National Championship

Limited to 75 entries    Updated 01/21/2021

    Team Name Car # Year Make Model
1.   Burningham Racing 855 1992 Lexus SC300
2.   Couturier Bros Racing 593 1990 Mazda Miata
3.   Hamms Racing 286 1994 Mazda Miata
4.   HASTINGS TIRES PLUS 550 1991 BMW 325IS
5.   IFW Motorsports 825 1999 Pontiac Firebird
6.   JSK Racing 176 1999 nissan maxima
7.   Parts Badger 630 1991 Mazda Miata
8.   Premium Dudes 32 1988 BMW 325is
9.   Red Baron Racing 332 2001 BMW 330CI
10.   TouchStone Racing 800 1992 Mazda Miata
11.   Two Brothers Racing 427 1986 Mercedes 190E
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7 hours ago, Bill Strong said:

 

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15.jpg   April 17-April 18, 2021
ROAD AMERICA: 8+7 Enduro, $1475
Elkhart Lake, WI
"Road America - National Championship"
Early Pay Discount Ends: February 16, 2021
Event Director: chelsey.vickery@champcar.org
Entrant List
Download Supplemental Rules and Event Info

 

 

 

Entries for Road America - National Championship

Limited to 75 entries    Update November 18,2020

    Team Name Car # Year Make Model
1.   JSK Racing 176 1999 nissan maxima
2.   Premium Dudes 32 1988 BMW 325is

You need not update this entry list anymore, you’re already looking at the top two teams.

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2 hours ago, enginerd said:

You need not update this entry list anymore, you’re already looking at the top two teams.

 

I wonder if your BMW will show up to this one or if it'll blow the engine before it leaves the garage. Didnt you say that you were going to be on the podium in the fall? :)

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4 hours ago, E. Tyler Pedersen said:

I wonder if your BMW will show up to this one or if it'll blow the engine before it leaves the garage. Didnt you say that you were going to be on the podium in the fall? :)

 

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I signed us up for this race today!  Looking forward to driving at this course again, but the rest of the driver lineup has not been there before so we decided this would be our bucketlist track for the year.  Seems like the time was right since the championship is there.

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1 hour ago, 55mini said:

Thanks for posting this Bill. I do have a question as to the minimum number of races rule, did that change and if so what was decided?

 

Thought maybe that should be told to the member's.

  I am pretty sure something was adjusted due to covid. I remember it being brought up before. 

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7 hours ago, Ray Franck said:

  WOW 7 way tie for 1st 

    And lookie here 6 different auto manufactures represented out of the top seven qualifiers.  Must be the rules...

 

Out of the seven, which ones are justifiably getting points added to their VPI for 2021?

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8 hours ago, mender said:

And looking closely.

 

An even split of Miatas and 325s make up half of the top twenty teams. Imagine that; a trend? :) 

Miatae and BMW are underrepresented in the top 10 based on a percentage of participation, none the less, statistically the team and prep variance is so great that it would likely be a flawed analysis to assume that miata and some other platform teams are from the same population as the rest of Champcar.  I think the methodology that should be used is a combination of the theoretical performance and case-study like performance of what good teams with good drivers are able to do with the platform.  

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Can somebody explain at least somewhat officially how this works for the National Championship? 

Specifically, I'm trying to understand what this means: 

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1.5.3. Bring the same car you raced to qualify for the Championship

So the car can't be touched from the 2020 ruleset and has to sit exactly as it did in 2020? Or, if the car is compliant with 2021 and built to the revised ruleset, is it considered the "same car"? If something was points in 2020, and is not points in 2021, and it's added to the car for 2021, does it now have to be removed just for this one race? 

To me, and just IMO, the "same car" means the same car that was raced and is now compliant with the 2021 ruleset. 

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2 hours ago, Snorman said:

Can somebody explain at least somewhat officially how this works for the National Championship? 

Specifically, I'm trying to understand what this means: 

So the car can't be touched from the 2020 ruleset and has to sit exactly as it did in 2020? Or, if the car is compliant with 2021 and built to the revised ruleset, is it considered the "same car"? If something was points in 2020, and is not points in 2021, and it's added to the car for 2021, does it now have to be removed just for this one race? 

To me, and just IMO, the "same car" means the same car that was raced and is now compliant with the 2021 ruleset. 

For the Charlotte Championship we brought a new car that was basically the same from what we qualified with the prior year (we did add an air dam) and Mike had to have a talk with us about it because 1 or more teams were questioning our eligibility.  Mike eventually said we were OK after a couple of hours of deliberations.  I know this doesn’t answer your question, just giving you an example of what happened with us.  It’s a huge gray area that needs clarification IMO.

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It's my understanding that the championship is run under the previous years rules minus any safety related changes.

 

If something was a lower value the year before, you claim that lower value.  If it was higher, you claim the higher value.

 

Yes, some builds require backdating a bit to get to the previous years rules.

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On 1/19/2021 at 7:30 PM, wvumtnbkr said:

It's my understanding that the championship is run under the previous years rules minus any safety related changes.

 

If something was a lower value the year before, you claim that lower value.  If it was higher, you claim the higher value.

 

Yes, some builds require backdating a bit to get to the previous years rules.

That's sort of what I understand, but not certain. And not clear how they are going to tech cars. Are National Championship contenders going to re-tech at RA according to 2020 rules if they have a 2021 Tech sticker? 

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4 minutes ago, Snorman said:

That's sort of what I understand, but not certain. And not clear how they are going to tech cars. Are National Championship contenders going to re-tech at RA according to 2020 rules if they have a 2021 Tech sticker? 

We have never had to do that in the past.

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I read it the same way @Snorman indicated in his last paragraph. To me it is saying it needs to be the same physical chassis you ran the year before.  But it would be to the 2021 rules because it is now 2021 and if you did another of the April races your car would be to 2021 rules already and it would be crazy to ask you to change it back.  
 

I assumed the intention was to prevent a new build replacing a car that qualified, and that is why Ron got questioned. 

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