Bandit Posted April 19, 2021 Report Share Posted April 19, 2021 Just checked the results and it shows winner DQ'd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Infiniti Posted April 19, 2021 Report Share Posted April 19, 2021 You seem to be correct, Speedhive harbors the official results, the 108 is at the bottom, not top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit Posted April 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2021 Was legal yesterday but not today? https://speedhive.mylaps.com/Sessions/6051325 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Infiniti Posted April 19, 2021 Report Share Posted April 19, 2021 36 minutes ago, Bandit said: Was legal yesterday but not today? https://speedhive.mylaps.com/Sessions/6051325 The car is local to me but was inspected 1500 miles away. You want a answer to why yesterday not today, no clue, did you get to attend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABR-Glen Posted April 19, 2021 Report Share Posted April 19, 2021 (edited) Who you talking about, this guy? Edited April 19, 2021 by ABR-Glen 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvumtnbkr Posted April 19, 2021 Report Share Posted April 19, 2021 Tuttle got dqd for a fuel pump out that pumped out too much fuel. Champcar said fuel cells were all legal in s aturday night. Apparently, not legal on s unday night.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit Posted April 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2021 10 minutes ago, Team Infiniti said: The car is local to me but was inspected 1500 miles away. You want a answer to why yesterday not today, no clue, did you get to attend? Was as much a statement as a question. Seems odd since they apparently went over the cars closely yesterday. So far as measuring fuel cells, pics of pistons, protest for coils, etc. Would have only been able to be there for a few hours so wasn't worth the 6 hour round trip. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit Posted April 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2021 18 minutes ago, ABR-Glen said: Who you talking about, this guy? Needs a couple more beers in front of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snorman Posted April 19, 2021 Report Share Posted April 19, 2021 23 minutes ago, ABR-Glen said: Who you talking about, this guy? Quote If you can't get disqualified at one race, you ain't trying hard enough. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a914freak Posted April 19, 2021 Report Share Posted April 19, 2021 35 minutes ago, wvumtnbkr said: Tuttle got dqd for a fuel pump out that pumped out too much fuel. Champcar said fuel cells were all legal in s aturday night. Apparently, not legal on s unday night.... Thats because people in the pits saw him put 4 five gallon Hunsaker fuel jugs into his car on Sunday. So a team protested his fuel capacity and won. Plain and simple 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snorman Posted April 19, 2021 Report Share Posted April 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, a914freak said: Thats because people in the pits saw him put 4 five gallon Hunsaker fuel jugs into his car on Sunday. So a team protested his fuel capacity and won. Plain and simple I could have sworn I heard on the stream that Dana said "three teams". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a914freak Posted April 19, 2021 Report Share Posted April 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, Snorman said: I could have sworn I heard on the stream that Dana said "three teams". Correct 2 different teams protested the 108 car. Ben Schaut of Bavarian Mustache. Ron of Visceral protested #108 And CYR protested #107 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginerd Posted April 19, 2021 Report Share Posted April 19, 2021 Gotta balloon those fuel jugs so that none bat an eye when you pour just three 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronh911 Posted April 19, 2021 Report Share Posted April 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, a914freak said: Correct 2 different teams protested the 108 car. Ben Schaut of Bavarian Mustache. Ron of Visceral protested #108 And CYR protested #107 I did not protest them. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit Posted April 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2021 Looks like cell should be 18.9 gal if it's a 1995 as shown on entry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Infiniti Posted April 19, 2021 Report Share Posted April 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, Bandit said: Looks like cell should be 18.9 gal if it's a 1995 as shown on entry. Any different if declared as a 97? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit Posted April 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2021 Just now, Team Infiniti said: Any different if declared as a 97? Nope. With a generous fill tube, as discussed/debated recently, 4 cans would easily go in if on fumes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Infiniti Posted April 19, 2021 Report Share Posted April 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Bandit said: Nope. Any year of that gen have a different tank? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit Posted April 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2021 10 minutes ago, Team Infiniti said: Any year of that gen have a different tank? https://bfy.tw/QlME 1999 15.9 stock All others 16.9 stock. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchkis23 Posted April 19, 2021 Report Share Posted April 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Bandit said: Was legal yesterday but not today? https://speedhive.mylaps.com/Sessions/6051325 Cells were measured yesterday, by the dimensions that were found they were questioned, told they had blocks inside. Took that as valid yesterday, today two teams videotaped them putting in fuel and took pics of the cans before they went into the car. Yes, three protests were filed, 2 for 108 and 1 for 107, the team explained that both cars were identically built, so they only did the pump out/capacity check on the 108. After removing all fuel from the cell, the team provided 3 fuel cans with 4 gallons, stating that was all they had left. Champ staff too the other empty cans and filled them with fuel from the track and then continued to add it to the cell. At one point, when the 18ish gallons went in it was decided to pull off the filler neck from the fuel cell and actually inspect the level in the tank. They were able to add up to 20.5 gallons total before it reached the top. So over the +2 capacity. There were three board members attending the race and a lengthy discussion was had, as to be assumed lots of colorful language was hurled, but a decision was made. Regardless of how and who this happened to, I really appreciate that staff listened to membership and checked this out. There were things on the first day with both cars that were issues, discussed and removed before the start of today as well. Outside of the 1.5hr impounds, this was a great event like always. Everyone on track was courteous(mostly), a lot of point byes were given, and everyone seemed to have a smile on their face. It was really nice to get back out and race with everyone, and we could not have asked for nicer weather! 14 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit Posted April 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, hotchkis23 said: They were able to add up to 20.5 gallons total before it reached the top. So over the +2 capacity. Thanks for the info. Pretty much clears that up with no other options other than a DQ. Even Smokey said big fuel tanks, along with big engines, were just chickenshit. That's not being creative at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchkis23 Posted April 19, 2021 Report Share Posted April 19, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Bandit said: Thanks for the info. Pretty much clears that up with no other options other than a DQ. Even Smokey said big fuel tanks, along with big engines, were just chickenshit. That's not being creative at all. Agreed, the rule is written as +2, and they were way over. Staff was going to let them be 19 as a .1 difference in their eyes(I agree) is too nit picky. What is interesting to me is with the pace they could run flat out with their pro driver(really pro) I think they could have been legal on capacity and just had him drive his 2 hrs(fuel and continue) then sit for an hour and maybe won the thing anyway...well, if they had brought enough tires.... Edited April 19, 2021 by hotchkis23 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted April 19, 2021 Report Share Posted April 19, 2021 What a wild weekend. We skipped impound and awards since we had nothing on the line. The rumor mill will be working overtime for sure. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a914freak Posted April 19, 2021 Report Share Posted April 19, 2021 6 hours ago, hotchkis23 said: Agreed, the rule is written as +2, and they were way over. Staff was going to let them be 19 as a .1 difference in their eyes(I agree) is too nit picky. What is interesting to me is with the pace they could run flat out with their pro driver(really pro) I think they could have been legal on capacity and just had him drive his 2 hrs(fuel and continue) then sit for an hour and maybe won the thing anyway...well, if they had brought enough tires.... By any chance do you know how many sets they used for both days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chip Posted April 19, 2021 Report Share Posted April 19, 2021 Really glad to see that the rules were enforced 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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