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Join the ChumpCar International, Inc Board of Directors, and ChampCar CEO/President Dana Morrison for an evening filled with ChampCar insider information.  Follow along with the meeting notes.  Download those notes here:  2021ChampCarBODMeeting3.pdf - Google Drive

The evening will include news of the Club, financial reports, and the status of member-submitted 2022 BCCR petitions.

2022 BCCR Petition PDF - 
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lEUsjz9lLmzrU3WKRmARCUOkUDOgwUNH/view?usp=sharing

ChumpCar International, Inc - ByLaws -
ChampCarBylaws.pdf

Current 2021 BCCR version 3 -
BCCR-2021v300.pdf (champcar.org)

The meeting is hosted by ChampCar.Live presenter Pauie Veltum and can be viewed live at our YouTube Channel at http://www.ChampCar.live.

Questions can be asked via the live presentation via the YouTube Chat, or email media@champcar.org, or text Bill Strong at 434.996.6721 during the presentation.

The event will be recorded and available for playback immediately after the presentation is over. If you missed it, please email any questions or concerns to board@champcar.org

 

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What:
Public virtual meeting
 
Where:
 
When:
Tuesday - June 8th, 2021
8:00 pm to 10:00 pm EST
 
Why:
Required by the ChumpCar International, Inc. Bylaws
ChampCar Endurance Series :: Board of Directors
 
 
Join the ChumpCar International, Inc Board of Directors, and ChampCar CEO/President Dana Morrison for an evening filled with ChampCar insider information. The evening will include news of the Club, financial reports, and the status of member-submitted 2022 BCCR petitions.
 

2021 BOD Board Meeting Slides - PDF Version - <Will be uploaded before the live presentation>

2022 BCCR Petition PDF - https://champcar.org/web/pdf/bod/2022-BCCR-Member-Petitions.pdf

ChumpCar International, Inc - ByLaws - https://champcar.org/web/pdf/ChampCarBylaws.pdf

Current 2021 BCCR version 3 - https://champcar.org/web/pdf/2021bccr/BCCR-2021v300.pdf

 
The meeting is hosted by ChampCar.Live presenter Paul Veltum and can be viewed live at our YouTube Channel at http://www.ChampCar.live.
Questions can be asked via the live presentation via the YouTube Chat, or email media@champcar.org, or text Bill Strong at 434.996.6721 during the presentation.
 
The event will be recorded and available for playback immediately after the presentation is over. If you missed it, please email any questions or concerns to board@champcar.org
 
Sincerely,
 
Bill Strong
Marketing Director
ChampCar Endurance Series
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On 6/1/2021 at 11:32 AM, Bill Strong said:
 
 
The event will be recorded and available for playback immediately after the presentation is over. If you missed it, please email any questions or concerns to board@champcar.org
 
Sincerely,
 
Bill Strong
Marketing Director
ChampCar Endurance Series

where I can't find it

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19 minutes ago, gundy said:

what happened  now it says the 15th

I heard that something came up and they were forced to reschedule at the last minute.  Don't know what.

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Sorry for the poor communication and last minute change.  Unfortunately we had to reschedule for 1 week out (8pm on the 15th).

 

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40 minutes ago, Jer said:

We have a good reason and you will understand.  

 

I really hope this is an "Awesome and exciting news" good reason and not horrible circumstances good reason.  Hope everyone is ok.

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2 hours ago, Jer said:

Not a rumor.  Doc suddenly passed away yesterday.  😢

 

Saw that this morning.  Absolutely gutted for his family and the whole Champ family.  The live broadcasts will never be the same, he left an awful large set of shoes to fill.

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Maybe this is the wrong thread? Idk.. 

 

Weak response from the board about tires. 
 

“So what kind of penalty would a team get if they were running through tires and not in the spirit of ChampCar and the race director went to talk to them?”


Board: “these are not the droids you are looking for”

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First, may I say, great job everyone!

 

Unfortunately the bad typically overshadows the good.

 

Weak is saying its a safety issue rather then trying to curb costs in this entry level series, if someone has bad tires *for whatever reason*  , go ahead and change them, apply whatever penalty is deemed fit for changing multiple tires and move on, if the team is being thrifty, it is what it is, they are likely not trying to win, if the team wants the stickiest, fastest wearing tires, they pay a time penalty that may negate the gains, if someone flatspotted em, learn to not do that, JUST LIKE LEMONS BLACK FLAGS FOR EVERY 4 WHEELS OFF INCIDENT, people quickly learn to not do that unless absolutely needed, not to mention, its a expensive AND time consuming mistake..

 

Alas, everyone can blame me and my ADD as I failed to vote before deadline. Always something shiny or some real life issue to distract....

 

@E. Tyler Pedersen8 tires is still too many, until you run the sticky, fast wearing ones, you will not understand. All the voices you hear defending the soft tires are only working in THEIR best interests and laptimes, NOTHING else.

We did our first full race on sticky tires for Daytona...  How did that go?  The car was ABSLOUTELY point and shoot, no mistake or missed apex mattered.                          Unlike Hankooks.

 

  Fortunately we chose/drove well and they lasted all day but our tire budget just doubled... or more.

 

The irony stings my eyes.

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2 hours ago, enginerd said:

Maybe this is the wrong thread? Idk.. 

 

Weak response from the board about tires. 
 

“So what kind of penalty would a team get if they were running through tires and not in the spirit of ChampCar and the race director went to talk to them?”


Board: “these are not the droids you are looking for”

 

1 hour ago, Team Infiniti said:

First, may I say, great job everyone!

 

Unfortunately the bad typically overshadows the good.

 

Weak is saying its a safety issue rather then trying to curb costs in this entry level series, if someone has bad tires *for whatever reason*  , go ahead and change them, apply whatever penalty is deemed fit for changing multiple tires and move on, if the team is being thrifty, it is what it is, they are likely not trying to win, if the team wants the stickiest, fastest wearing tires, they pay a time penalty that may negate the gains, if someone flatspotted em, learn to not do that, JUST LIKE LEMONS BLACK FLAGS FOR EVERY 4 WHEELS OFF INCIDENT, people quickly learn to not do that unless absolutely needed, not to mention, its a expensive AND time consuming mistake..

 

Alas, everyone can blame me and my ADD as I failed to vote before deadline. Always something shiny or some real life issue to distract....

 

@E. Tyler Pedersen8 tires is still too many, until you run the sticky, fast wearing ones, you will not understand. All the voices you hear defending the soft tires are only working in THEIR best interests and laptimes, NOTHING else.

We did our first full race on sticky tires for Daytona...  How did that go?  The car was ABSLOUTELY point and shoot, no mistake or missed apex mattered.                          Unlike Hankooks.

 

  Fortunately we chose/drove well and they lasted all day but our tire budget just doubled... or more.

 

The irony stings my eyes.

 

As a BOD we could not come to an agreement on any of the petitions for a tire rule. 

 

Are there faster tires than other? Yes for sure. 

 

As a series we will not ban tires or go to a spec tire. There are other series out there for that in my opinion. 

 

I still run Hankook RS4s on my car so I don't have much of a defense on the soft tires. I run a budget for my car and stick to it. 

 

I saw this tire issue coming at Sebring 2019 and tried putting a petition in that was denied and we As a BOD still cannot come to a good way of a ruling on tires that we can get a majority vote.

 

Look at the aluminum radiators. It took us two years to get to a rule to make us all happy that supports the mission if ChampCar.

 

I'm always willing to present ideas and listen to members. I really want you all to figure out a way to write a tire rule that doesn't ban tires that we can get on board with (no pun intended).

 

We also had barely 1% of the membership give comments on petitions, so what do the other 99% of the membership want out of the club or the rule changes? If you look at elections then you would notice something similar for participation. I want to hear members voices and see what everyone wants since it is your club. 

 

My goal is to be honest and transparent. I will give you that. I want to be able to lead the club to the best of my abilities towards our mission statement as well. 

 

I appreciate the feedback on this as well. 

 

I don't get on the forums much anymore, but I'm on social media and my phone number and email is pretty easy to find. Feel free to give me a call or email me. 

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8 minutes ago, E. Tyler Pedersen said:

 

 

As a BOD we could not come to an agreement on any of the petitions for a tire rule. 

 

Are there faster tires than other? Yes for sure. 

 

As a series we will not ban tires or go to a spec tire. There are other series out there for that in my opinion. 

 

I still run Hankook RS4s on my car so I don't have much of a defense on the soft tires. I run a budget for my car and stick to it. 

 

I saw this tire issue coming at Sebring 2019 and tried putting a petition in that was denied and we As a BOD still cannot come to a good way of a ruling on tires that we can get a majority vote.

 

Look at the aluminum radiators. It took us two years to get to a rule to make us all happy that supports the mission if ChampCar.

 

I'm always willing to present ideas and listen to members. I really want you all to figure out a way to write a tire rule that doesn't ban tires that we can get on board with (no pun intended).

 

We also had barely 1% of the membership give comments on petitions, so what do the other 99% of the membership want out of the club or the rule changes? If you look at elections then you would notice something similar for participation. I want to hear members voices and see what everyone wants since it is your club. 

 

My goal is to be honest and transparent. I will give you that. I want to be able to lead the club to the best of my abilities towards our mission statement as well. 

 

I appreciate the feedback on this as well. 

 

I don't get on the forums much anymore, but I'm on social media and my phone number and email is pretty easy to find. Feel free to give me a call or email me. 

I’m sorry, but you guys missed the bar again with the radiator rule.  My $160 Amazon Rad has 3 rows, so it’s 30 points.  But I can buy a $1500 fancy 2 row rad and it’s 0 points.  How does that fit Champcars mission?   5 minutes on google would have caught this.   
 

Basing this rule off of how many rows the rad has is not a valuable metric.  

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44 minutes ago, petawawarace said:

I’m sorry, but you guys missed the bar again with the radiator rule.  My $160 Amazon Rad has 3 rows, so it’s 30 points.  But I can buy a $1500 fancy 2 row rad and it’s 0 points.  How does that fit Champcars mission?   5 minutes on google would have caught this.   
 

Basing this rule off of how many rows the rad has is not a valuable metric.  

 

I spent plenty of time googling cars and radiators and have found plenty of options available for multiple cars that fit within the spirit of the rules. 

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11 minutes ago, E. Tyler Pedersen said:

 

I spent plenty of time googling cars and radiators and have found plenty of options available for multiple cars that fit within the spirit of the rules. 

Tyler, that’s not what I’m saying.  There are also plenty of options for 3 row rads that fit within the spirit of the rules.  Cheap aluminum 3 row rads are all over.  Yet you guys decided to arbitrarily draw the line in the sand there?  Why?  3 row rads do provide marginally better cooling for sure.  But there is no size limit on rads.  So a bigger 2 row will cool more than a smaller 3 row, but is 0 points compared to 30.  
 

I just don’t understand the thought behind the line drawn at 3 row rads? That metric doesn’t control costs and it doesn’t control performance.  All it does is eliminate some cheap rads for no real reason. 
 

As a background, I got screwed last year. I waited until the rules came our abs bought a cheap aluminum rad.  I didn’t even notice how many rows were in it. It was $160 and the dimensions and hose locations fit my car.  Then you guys reverted the rules a month later.  Screwed me with 10 extra points. Now you change the rules again.  I saw the ruling and went to look at my rad.  That’s when I noticed it was a 3 row.  
 

This rule has negative consequences for some of us , but it doesn’t control anything.  

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