Administrators Bill Strong Posted June 1, 2021 Administrators Report Share Posted June 1, 2021 Join the ChumpCar International, Inc Board of Directors, and ChampCar CEO/President Dana Morrison for an evening filled with ChampCar insider information. Follow along with the meeting notes. Download those notes here: 2021ChampCarBODMeeting3.pdf - Google Drive The evening will include news of the Club, financial reports, and the status of member-submitted 2022 BCCR petitions. 2022 BCCR Petition PDF - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lEUsjz9lLmzrU3WKRmARCUOkUDOgwUNH/view?usp=sharing ChumpCar International, Inc - ByLaws -ChampCarBylaws.pdf Current 2021 BCCR version 3 -BCCR-2021v300.pdf (champcar.org) The meeting is hosted by ChampCar.Live presenter Pauie Veltum and can be viewed live at our YouTube Channel at http://www.ChampCar.live. Questions can be asked via the live presentation via the YouTube Chat, or email media@champcar.org, or text Bill Strong at 434.996.6721 during the presentation. The event will be recorded and available for playback immediately after the presentation is over. If you missed it, please email any questions or concerns to board@champcar.org The TireRack.com ChampCar Endurance Series is for people like you that have always wanted to go road racing without all the hassles, huge rulebook, or obscene expense. All you need is a valid drivers license, some safety gear, and a race car, which you can rent from arrive and drive teams, or build your own car! ChampCar is the simplest path to real wheel-to-wheel road racing! ChampCar.Live is brought to you by AutoZone. What: Public virtual meeting Where: http://www.ChampCar.live When: Tuesday - June 8th, 2021 8:00 pm to 10:00 pm EST Why: Required by the ChumpCar International, Inc. BylawsChampCar Endurance Series :: Board of Directors Join the ChumpCar International, Inc Board of Directors, and ChampCar CEO/President Dana Morrison for an evening filled with ChampCar insider information. The evening will include news of the Club, financial reports, and the status of member-submitted 2022 BCCR petitions. 2021 BOD Board Meeting Slides - PDF Version - <Will be uploaded before the live presentation> 2022 BCCR Petition PDF - https://champcar.org/web/pdf/bod/2022-BCCR-Member-Petitions.pdf ChumpCar International, Inc - ByLaws - https://champcar.org/web/pdf/ChampCarBylaws.pdf Current 2021 BCCR version 3 - https://champcar.org/web/pdf/2021bccr/BCCR-2021v300.pdf The meeting is hosted by ChampCar.Live presenter Paul Veltum and can be viewed live at our YouTube Channel at http://www.ChampCar.live. Questions can be asked via the live presentation via the YouTube Chat, or email media@champcar.org, or text Bill Strong at 434.996.6721 during the presentation. The event will be recorded and available for playback immediately after the presentation is over. If you missed it, please email any questions or concerns to board@champcar.org Sincerely, Bill Strong Marketing Director ChampCar Endurance Series 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundy Posted June 3, 2021 Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 On 6/1/2021 at 11:32 AM, Bill Strong said: The event will be recorded and available for playback immediately after the presentation is over. If you missed it, please email any questions or concerns to board@champcar.org Sincerely, Bill Strong Marketing Director ChampCar Endurance Series where I can't find it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Bill Strong Posted June 3, 2021 Author Administrators Report Share Posted June 3, 2021 10 hours ago, gundy said: where I can't find it Tuesday - June 8th, 2021 8:00 pm to 10:00 pm EST Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundy Posted June 9, 2021 Report Share Posted June 9, 2021 On 6/3/2021 at 10:48 AM, Bill Strong said: Tuesday - June 8th, 2021 8:00 pm to 10:00 pm EST what happened now it says the 15th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvumtnbkr Posted June 9, 2021 Report Share Posted June 9, 2021 19 minutes ago, gundy said: what happened now it says the 15th I heard that something came up and they were forced to reschedule at the last minute. Don't know what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Advisory Committee Chris Huggins Posted June 9, 2021 Technical Advisory Committee Report Share Posted June 9, 2021 Sorry for the poor communication and last minute change. Unfortunately we had to reschedule for 1 week out (8pm on the 15th). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jer Posted June 9, 2021 Report Share Posted June 9, 2021 We have a good reason and you will understand. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Advisory Committee mcoppola Posted June 9, 2021 Technical Advisory Committee Report Share Posted June 9, 2021 hope everybody is ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted June 9, 2021 Report Share Posted June 9, 2021 40 minutes ago, Jer said: We have a good reason and you will understand. I really hope this is an "Awesome and exciting news" good reason and not horrible circumstances good reason. Hope everyone is ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchkis23 Posted June 9, 2021 Report Share Posted June 9, 2021 8 minutes ago, Ian said: I really hope this is an "Awesome and exciting news" good reason and not horrible circumstances good reason. Hope everyone is ok. Its not, per facebook.... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimS Posted June 9, 2021 Report Share Posted June 9, 2021 12 hours ago, hotchkis23 said: Its not, per facebook.... What’s the rumor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jer Posted June 9, 2021 Report Share Posted June 9, 2021 12 minutes ago, TimS said: What’s the rumor? Not a rumor. Doc suddenly passed away yesterday. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimS Posted June 9, 2021 Report Share Posted June 9, 2021 That is terrible. My condolences to his family and friends. Great guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy G. Elliott Posted June 9, 2021 Report Share Posted June 9, 2021 I will miss his wit and wisdom, a huge loss for Champcar! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted June 9, 2021 Report Share Posted June 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Jer said: Not a rumor. Doc suddenly passed away yesterday. Saw that this morning. Absolutely gutted for his family and the whole Champ family. The live broadcasts will never be the same, he left an awful large set of shoes to fill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Infiniti Posted June 15, 2021 Report Share Posted June 15, 2021 On 6/8/2021 at 8:40 PM, Chris Huggins said: Sorry for the poor communication and last minute change. Unfortunately we had to reschedule for 1 week out (8pm on the 15th). Are we a go for this tonight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Advisory Committee Chris Huggins Posted June 15, 2021 Technical Advisory Committee Report Share Posted June 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, Team Infiniti said: Are we a go for this tonight? Yes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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enginerd Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 (edited) Maybe this is the wrong thread? Idk.. Weak response from the board about tires. “So what kind of penalty would a team get if they were running through tires and not in the spirit of ChampCar and the race director went to talk to them?” Board: “these are not the droids you are looking for” Edited June 16, 2021 by enginerd 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Infiniti Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 (edited) First, may I say, great job everyone! Unfortunately the bad typically overshadows the good. Weak is saying its a safety issue rather then trying to curb costs in this entry level series, if someone has bad tires *for whatever reason* , go ahead and change them, apply whatever penalty is deemed fit for changing multiple tires and move on, if the team is being thrifty, it is what it is, they are likely not trying to win, if the team wants the stickiest, fastest wearing tires, they pay a time penalty that may negate the gains, if someone flatspotted em, learn to not do that, JUST LIKE LEMONS BLACK FLAGS FOR EVERY 4 WHEELS OFF INCIDENT, people quickly learn to not do that unless absolutely needed, not to mention, its a expensive AND time consuming mistake.. Alas, everyone can blame me and my ADD as I failed to vote before deadline. Always something shiny or some real life issue to distract.... @E. Tyler Pedersen8 tires is still too many, until you run the sticky, fast wearing ones, you will not understand. All the voices you hear defending the soft tires are only working in THEIR best interests and laptimes, NOTHING else. We did our first full race on sticky tires for Daytona... How did that go? The car was ABSLOUTELY point and shoot, no mistake or missed apex mattered. Unlike Hankooks. Fortunately we chose/drove well and they lasted all day but our tire budget just doubled... or more. The irony stings my eyes. Edited June 16, 2021 by Team Infiniti 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petawawarace Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 I was listening to it late last night in the background. Did they share what the results of the membership votes were? Is that made public? If so, what was the membership consensus on tires? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators E. Tyler Pedersen Posted June 16, 2021 Administrators Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 2 hours ago, enginerd said: Maybe this is the wrong thread? Idk.. Weak response from the board about tires. “So what kind of penalty would a team get if they were running through tires and not in the spirit of ChampCar and the race director went to talk to them?” Board: “these are not the droids you are looking for” 1 hour ago, Team Infiniti said: First, may I say, great job everyone! Unfortunately the bad typically overshadows the good. Weak is saying its a safety issue rather then trying to curb costs in this entry level series, if someone has bad tires *for whatever reason* , go ahead and change them, apply whatever penalty is deemed fit for changing multiple tires and move on, if the team is being thrifty, it is what it is, they are likely not trying to win, if the team wants the stickiest, fastest wearing tires, they pay a time penalty that may negate the gains, if someone flatspotted em, learn to not do that, JUST LIKE LEMONS BLACK FLAGS FOR EVERY 4 WHEELS OFF INCIDENT, people quickly learn to not do that unless absolutely needed, not to mention, its a expensive AND time consuming mistake.. Alas, everyone can blame me and my ADD as I failed to vote before deadline. Always something shiny or some real life issue to distract.... @E. Tyler Pedersen8 tires is still too many, until you run the sticky, fast wearing ones, you will not understand. All the voices you hear defending the soft tires are only working in THEIR best interests and laptimes, NOTHING else. We did our first full race on sticky tires for Daytona... How did that go? The car was ABSLOUTELY point and shoot, no mistake or missed apex mattered. Unlike Hankooks. Fortunately we chose/drove well and they lasted all day but our tire budget just doubled... or more. The irony stings my eyes. As a BOD we could not come to an agreement on any of the petitions for a tire rule. Are there faster tires than other? Yes for sure. As a series we will not ban tires or go to a spec tire. There are other series out there for that in my opinion. I still run Hankook RS4s on my car so I don't have much of a defense on the soft tires. I run a budget for my car and stick to it. I saw this tire issue coming at Sebring 2019 and tried putting a petition in that was denied and we As a BOD still cannot come to a good way of a ruling on tires that we can get a majority vote. Look at the aluminum radiators. It took us two years to get to a rule to make us all happy that supports the mission if ChampCar. I'm always willing to present ideas and listen to members. I really want you all to figure out a way to write a tire rule that doesn't ban tires that we can get on board with (no pun intended). We also had barely 1% of the membership give comments on petitions, so what do the other 99% of the membership want out of the club or the rule changes? If you look at elections then you would notice something similar for participation. I want to hear members voices and see what everyone wants since it is your club. My goal is to be honest and transparent. I will give you that. I want to be able to lead the club to the best of my abilities towards our mission statement as well. I appreciate the feedback on this as well. I don't get on the forums much anymore, but I'm on social media and my phone number and email is pretty easy to find. Feel free to give me a call or email me. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petawawarace Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, E. Tyler Pedersen said: As a BOD we could not come to an agreement on any of the petitions for a tire rule. Are there faster tires than other? Yes for sure. As a series we will not ban tires or go to a spec tire. There are other series out there for that in my opinion. I still run Hankook RS4s on my car so I don't have much of a defense on the soft tires. I run a budget for my car and stick to it. I saw this tire issue coming at Sebring 2019 and tried putting a petition in that was denied and we As a BOD still cannot come to a good way of a ruling on tires that we can get a majority vote. Look at the aluminum radiators. It took us two years to get to a rule to make us all happy that supports the mission if ChampCar. I'm always willing to present ideas and listen to members. I really want you all to figure out a way to write a tire rule that doesn't ban tires that we can get on board with (no pun intended). We also had barely 1% of the membership give comments on petitions, so what do the other 99% of the membership want out of the club or the rule changes? If you look at elections then you would notice something similar for participation. I want to hear members voices and see what everyone wants since it is your club. My goal is to be honest and transparent. I will give you that. I want to be able to lead the club to the best of my abilities towards our mission statement as well. I appreciate the feedback on this as well. I don't get on the forums much anymore, but I'm on social media and my phone number and email is pretty easy to find. Feel free to give me a call or email me. I’m sorry, but you guys missed the bar again with the radiator rule. My $160 Amazon Rad has 3 rows, so it’s 30 points. But I can buy a $1500 fancy 2 row rad and it’s 0 points. How does that fit Champcars mission? 5 minutes on google would have caught this. Basing this rule off of how many rows the rad has is not a valuable metric. Edited June 16, 2021 by petawawarace 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators E. Tyler Pedersen Posted June 16, 2021 Administrators Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 44 minutes ago, petawawarace said: I’m sorry, but you guys missed the bar again with the radiator rule. My $160 Amazon Rad has 3 rows, so it’s 30 points. But I can buy a $1500 fancy 2 row rad and it’s 0 points. How does that fit Champcars mission? 5 minutes on google would have caught this. Basing this rule off of how many rows the rad has is not a valuable metric. I spent plenty of time googling cars and radiators and have found plenty of options available for multiple cars that fit within the spirit of the rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petawawarace Posted June 16, 2021 Report Share Posted June 16, 2021 11 minutes ago, E. Tyler Pedersen said: I spent plenty of time googling cars and radiators and have found plenty of options available for multiple cars that fit within the spirit of the rules. Tyler, that’s not what I’m saying. There are also plenty of options for 3 row rads that fit within the spirit of the rules. Cheap aluminum 3 row rads are all over. Yet you guys decided to arbitrarily draw the line in the sand there? Why? 3 row rads do provide marginally better cooling for sure. But there is no size limit on rads. So a bigger 2 row will cool more than a smaller 3 row, but is 0 points compared to 30. I just don’t understand the thought behind the line drawn at 3 row rads? That metric doesn’t control costs and it doesn’t control performance. All it does is eliminate some cheap rads for no real reason. As a background, I got screwed last year. I waited until the rules came our abs bought a cheap aluminum rad. I didn’t even notice how many rows were in it. It was $160 and the dimensions and hose locations fit my car. Then you guys reverted the rules a month later. Screwed me with 10 extra points. Now you change the rules again. I saw the ruling and went to look at my rad. That’s when I noticed it was a 3 row. This rule has negative consequences for some of us , but it doesn’t control anything. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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