petawawarace Posted August 20, 2021 Report Share Posted August 20, 2021 So your racing away, spin off in the grass and get a drive thru black flag. You acknowledge the black flag, enter the pits and complete your pitstop so you never really get a penalty. Is this allowed? Just got on the fly strategy? Opinions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakks Posted August 20, 2021 Report Share Posted August 20, 2021 Black flag station is at pit in. Whatever penalty is assessed is being given to you at pit in. There are no “drive-thru” penalties in CC. You’re stopping at pit-in/black flag, being assessed your penalty and released. What you do before you reach pit-out, where you have to stop again is your business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ETR Posted August 20, 2021 Report Share Posted August 20, 2021 Where in the rules is 4-off a black flag? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakks Posted August 20, 2021 Report Share Posted August 20, 2021 39 minutes ago, ETR said: Where in the rules is 4-off a black flag? It’s not in the rules but it’s the RD’s discretion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ETR Posted August 20, 2021 Report Share Posted August 20, 2021 33 minutes ago, jakks said: It’s not in the rules but it’s the RD’s discretion. Agreed. Just feeling a little spicy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiredBirds Posted August 20, 2021 Report Share Posted August 20, 2021 14 hours ago, petawawarace said: So your racing away, spin off in the grass and get a drive thru black flag. You acknowledge the black flag, enter the pits and complete your pitstop so you never really get a penalty. Is this allowed? Just got on the fly strategy? Opinions? I guess it would depend on how far along you are in your run. If you are a few laps in, it wouldn't make sense to "pit" But if you have been out 1.5 hours then you'd pit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chip Posted August 20, 2021 Report Share Posted August 20, 2021 38 minutes ago, TiredBirds said: I guess it would depend on how far along you are in your run. If you are a few laps in, it wouldn't make sense to "pit" But if you have been out 1.5 hours then you'd pit. Agreed- plus would they give you a timer when you enter for a black flag discussion? If not, then you would have to do another lap potentially to get one- or maybe ask for one once you are done with the discussion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Infiniti Posted August 20, 2021 Report Share Posted August 20, 2021 Every black flag we have observed/gotten was @ pit in where you get informed of the issue and are asked to wait there till released, what you do from there is up to the team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petawawarace Posted August 20, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, TiredBirds said: I guess it would depend on how far along you are in your run. If you are a few laps in, it wouldn't make sense to "pit" But if you have been out 1.5 hours then you'd pit. Yeah I'm just trying to figure out what is normal or not. We got a black flag for 4 wheels off (2 still on curbing and 2 in grass) and had already completed our last stop, so we had to come in again. The other team spun off, got black flagged, and ended up with no penalty at all because they made it into their stop. This ended up giving the other team the win. Just good timing for them I guess. Edited August 20, 2021 by petawawarace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuaTTro Posted August 20, 2021 Report Share Posted August 20, 2021 21 minutes ago, petawawarace said: ended up with no penalty at all because they made it into their stop. can you explain what you mean by this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petawawarace Posted August 20, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, QuaTTro said: can you explain what you mean by this? Our Black flag cost us a trip down pit road and about 30s. Their black flag added no time to their race. Edited August 20, 2021 by petawawarace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuaTTro Posted August 20, 2021 Report Share Posted August 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, petawawarace said: Our Black flag cost us a trip down pit road and about 30s. Their black flag cost them the same as a normal stop. No extra. Sounds like the Pit In guy figured since the team was pitting that it was longer than he was going to hold them anyway and let it slide. But that's kinda crappy. He should've held them for XYZ seconds and then sent the team along to their planned pit stop. I'm more intrigued about a black flag for wheels off as I've never heard of CCES doing that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petawawarace Posted August 20, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2021 10 minutes ago, QuaTTro said: Sounds like the Pit In guy figured since the team was pitting that it was longer than he was going to hold them anyway and let it slide. But that's kinda crappy. He should've held them for XYZ seconds and then sent the team along to their planned pit stop. I'm more intrigued about a black flag for wheels off as I've never heard of CCES doing that. So this was up in Canada and is run a bit differently. They were calling 4 wheels off as a black flag. A spin was also a black flag. We spun in some oil on the track (never went off track) and still got a black flag. They were consistent with the calls, but I found those minor incidents a bit much for a black flag too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted August 20, 2021 Report Share Posted August 20, 2021 12 minutes ago, petawawarace said: So this was up in Canada and is run a bit differently. They were calling 4 wheels off as a black flag. A spin was also a black flag. We spun in some oil on the track (never went off track) and still got a black flag. They were consistent with the calls, but I found those minor incidents a bit much for a black flag too. If everybody is playing by the same rules, they just got lucky they needed a stop. And it likely added some time to their pit, just not as much as yours not needing a pit. Easiest way to avoid it, is to not spin or go 4 off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiredBirds Posted August 20, 2021 Report Share Posted August 20, 2021 We have had a few in both leagues. there is no time limit on the black flag you go in tell them why you went off track and usually you are on your way. The last time I went off the race was just about over so I just went back to the trailer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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