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Without further adieu, the 2022 VPI (Value) and SPV (Weight) updates.


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These VPI numbers go into effect January 1, 2022. 

These VPI numbers go into effect January 1, 2022. 

These VPI numbers go into effect January 1, 2022. 

 

This data will be updated into the system on Jan 1, 2022. 
VPI are your points. SPV is the weight used for swaps. The vast majority of you don't need to worry about the SPV

 

2022_VPI-SPV_Changes.pdf

 

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  • Bill Strong changed the title to Without further adieu, the 2022 VPI (Value) and SPV (Weight) updates.
39 minutes ago, Bill Strong said:

there were two typos that were not caught in the editing room. 
Fixes The E9X is 550 points and the MX3 spelled correctly

Damn... At 500pts for an E90, you had me real close to being in the market for a new daily...

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So are all N52B30 engines being recognized as the same for the E90, E91, E92, E93 3 series, allowing for updates and backdates to a 10.7:1 compression ratio and 3 stage intake?

 

Ideally the 325i / 328i variants should have a 25 point allowance for inferior intake and/or compression ratio.

 

2006 330i - N52B30 with 3 stage intake 10.7:1

2006 325i - N52B30 with 1 stage intake 10.7:1

2007-2013 328i - N52B30KP with 1 stage intake 10.7:1

2007-2013 328i SULEVII - N51B30 with 3 stage intake 10.0:1

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24 minutes ago, Mean'O'Mullet said:

I am guessing that you are also including El-Caminos in with the G-Body platform, but it was left off the list. 

 

That's a huge hit to our team! 50 points?  From 175 to 225!

Elco's are a different wheelbase, much longer, and are not listed so I'd say it stays the same.

 

I put in the VPI request for the 4 cars listed specifically as the Elco/Caballero, along with the Malibu/LeMans, are not the same as those 4 models.

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3 minutes ago, benhirche said:

Are these the only changes? 

We were wondering if early BMW Z4s would be added and the answer to our request by Ray Franck was that the 2022 update would include them.

Z4's show in the "VPI additions thread"

 

Quoted from that thread;

2002 -2005 BMW Z4

M54B30 – Add at 530

M54B25 – Add at 475


2006 – 2009 BMW Z4 N52B30
Add at 550

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1 hour ago, jWashburn said:

 

So are all N52B30 engines being recognized as the same for the E90, E91, E92, E93 3 series, allowing for updates and backdates to a 10.7:1 compression ratio and 3 stage intake?

 

Ideally the 325i / 328i variants should have a 25 point allowance for inferior intake and/or compression ratio.

 

2006 330i - N52B30 with 3 stage intake 10.7:1

2006 325i - N52B30 with 1 stage intake 10.7:1

2007-2013 328i - N52B30KP with 1 stage intake 10.7:1

2007-2013 328i SULEVII - N51B30 with 3 stage intake 10.0:1

 

It was discussed but decided to leave things as they were for now. 

The requestor asked about the differences in the current VPI list (E92 and E90 with different values) and this is now corrected.  

 

BMW really fell off the rails with making the same engine with a 53hp spread.  

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After recently doing the E90 325i to 330i intake+flash, I can say its the cheapest hp I have ever gotten.  Highly recommend it to anyone who has an E90 325 or 328.

~$100 in junkyard parts and a free flash gets you 50hp....Wish I could do this for every car I have haha.   

I have been eyeing cheap e90 325s for track duty for a year or so now. If only they had a slightly larger fuel capacity, doubtful they could do a 2hr stint.

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47 minutes ago, tyler_j said:

After recently doing the E90 325i to 330i intake+flash, I can say its the cheapest hp I have ever gotten.  Highly recommend it to anyone who has an E90 325 or 328.

~$100 in junkyard parts and a free flash gets you 50hp....Wish I could do this for every car I have haha.   

I have been eyeing cheap e90 325s for track duty for a year or so now. If only they had a slightly larger fuel capacity, doubtful they could do a 2hr stint.

 

SpecE90 is coming.  

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3 hours ago, tyler_j said:

After recently doing the E90 325i to 330i intake+flash, I can say its the cheapest hp I have ever gotten.  Highly recommend it to anyone who has an E90 325 or 328.

~$100 in junkyard parts and a free flash gets you 50hp....Wish I could do this for every car I have haha.   

I have been eyeing cheap e90 325s for track duty for a year or so now. If only they had a slightly larger fuel capacity, doubtful they could do a 2hr stint.

 

What about swapping these engines into other cars? I thought about it but the electronics scared me away but you mentioned free flash? Has it been hacked or something?

 

My plan for my crapbox datsun was to take the lowest rated 215bhp and pay 25pts and get 268bhp 

 

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31 minutes ago, turbogrill said:

 

What about swapping these engines into other cars? I thought about it but the electronics scared me away but you mentioned free flash? Has it been hacked or something?

 

My plan for my crapbox datsun was to take the lowest rated 215bhp and pay 25pts and get 268bhp 

 

 

In my experience with the newer BMWs, most of the software and flashes are out there for free to do whatever you want but none of which are easy to use or laid out very well.  The interface requires quite a bit of research and time to figure out exactly what you want to do (at least for me it did). 

I essentially downloaded an unlock file which allowed the ecu to be flashed and then put a euro 330i engine flash into it. Took me a few weeks of research and all of 15 mins to actually do.  That being said I have read quite a few horror stories where people brick their ecus trying to do this, so proceed with caution haha.

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1 hour ago, tyler_j said:

 

In my experience with the newer BMWs, most of the software and flashes are out there for free to do whatever you want but none of which are easy to use or laid out very well.  The interface requires quite a bit of research and time to figure out exactly what you want to do (at least for me it did). 

I essentially downloaded an unlock file which allowed the ecu to be flashed and then put a euro 330i engine flash into it. Took me a few weeks of research and all of 15 mins to actually do.  That being said I have read quite a few horror stories where people brick their ecus trying to do this, so proceed with caution haha.

 

2 hours ago, turbogrill said:

 

What about swapping these engines into other cars? I thought about it but the electronics scared me away but you mentioned free flash? Has it been hacked or something?

 

My plan for my crapbox datsun was to take the lowest rated 215bhp and pay 25pts and get 268bhp 

 

dude! its a 6 cylinder NA motor. buy an AEM infinity and go to town...who gives a crap about the oem ecu????

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17 minutes ago, atxe30 said:

 

dude! its a 6 cylinder NA motor. buy an AEM infinity and go to town...who gives a crap about the oem ecu????

Valvetronic!

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19 minutes ago, atxe30 said:

 

dude! its a 6 cylinder NA motor. buy an AEM infinity and go to town...who gives a crap about the oem ecu????

 

I was under the impression they didn't support that trigger pattern or something. 

 

Edit: I guess you could always fix that with different trigger wheel. But that would change reliability (if I do it :) )

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13 hours ago, turbogrill said:

 

I was under the impression they didn't support that trigger pattern or something. 

 

Edit: I guess you could always fix that with different trigger wheel. But that would change reliability (if I do it :) )

The Infinity ECU will work with N52/3/4 motors...

 

I had planned to steal the motor out of my daughters x3 3.0si (N52, 200kw version) for a build....so did the homework on this topic...that is actually a good motor and pretty easy to get to 300hp without a lot of craziness in the tune/mods....

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I'm glad the N52 is getting some love. It's a true "under the curve" engine as opposed to peak power. It's wonderful how easy it is to pass on the highway from 2k rpm staying in 6th. Got loads of torque everywhere!

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