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Two Idiot's and a Garage/Sheboygan Auto Helpers had a great test day Friday, the car is fixed from the spring race issues I did 90 laps with out a hitch an 4 seconds a lap faster then it has ever gone! Looking forward to the spring race with my boss Mark!

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Quick shout out to Stinky Rat Trap. One of our drivers spun across the track in 14, leaving a very difficult yellow target to avoid. Somehow that driver did avoid us and we are extremely appreciative. Avoiding us must have taken quite some skill.

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38 minutes ago, gavro said:

@Bill Strong Most importantly, who won the costume contest?

None other than the "worlds fastest candy pizza crew". Using the heat from the engine to cook whole pizza boxes, serving 'cooked to perfection' candy out of the trunk. Working smokestack on the roof, chef outfits, the works. Our whole team, drivers, crew, family members participated and had a great time. It was a real highlight of the weekend.

We will be attending the spring Road America race with our free entry :)

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1 hour ago, gavro said:

@Bill Strong Most importantly, who won the costume contest?


The #32 dressed up as a pizza oven, and the rest of the team serving pizza (candy) dressed up as pizza chefs, waiters, etc.  

Kids would get in line, take an empty pizza box, put the pizza box into the engine bay, and then were served candy off of a pizza peel at the trunk of the car. 

It was a real hoot, and the kids loved it. 

May be an image of 2 people, people standing, car, outdoors and text that says 'FRT GENERATIONS'

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3 hours ago, enginerd said:

None other than the "worlds fastest candy pizza crew". Using the heat from the engine to cook whole pizza boxes, serving 'cooked to perfection' candy out of the trunk. Working smokestack on the roof, chef outfits, the works. Our whole team, drivers, crew, family members participated and had a great time. It was a real highlight of the weekend.

We will be attending the spring Road America race with our free entry :)

 

Congrats! You guys had a great setup - very deserving of the win.

 

That trick-or-treating event exceeded all expectations. We blew up during Friday practice and decided to take our race credit and call it a weekend - we've done enough thrashing this season - but my wife, kids, brother, sister-in-law, niece, nephew, and parents all decided to make the trip anyway, and the trunk-or-treat was a real highlight of the weekend.

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Wisconsin Crap Racing competed in our 2nd Champcar race at this one.  We had a great time and tried our best to stay out of every ones way.  We finished Saturday in 9th with finishing the day with the mount of the sway bar pulled out of the unibody (Special thanks to Beer Money for helping us weld that back on).  On Sunday we had one black flag for leaking fluid ( it was right after our pit and was overfilled),and finished Sunday in 10th. We had to finished the last 3 laps on a motor that was extremely overheating ( sounded like a tea pot as we had a tiny hole in a coolant line).  

 

But we all had a great time and we finally broke the 3 minute barrier that escaped us for so long, we actually went 2.57 which was impressive in our tired car.  

 

The Trunk our treat was an absolute blast and to everyone that that planned it need a massive pat on the back!

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We (Finndurance Motorsports) had quite the roller coaster of a weekend.  Friday went as planned except our telemetry system wouldn't connect, so I had no way to monitor the new to us engine in the car.  Thought I got it working Friday night by manually pressing the action button on the logger (RaceCapture), but learned Saturday morning that it only broadcast for 30 seconds, then quit every time.  Going to have to figure that out.

 

We started Saturday with a lucky draw, and I was first in the car.  We decided to full send the car and deal with a 4th stop as it won't go 2 hours at RA without serious fuel conserve mode, and that's not how you make up 5 penalty laps.  We just had to hope for a timely yellow.  Starting 3rd or 4th on track, I got a great start and put myself at the head of the pack within a few turns, and spent quite a few laps knocking out the fastest traffic free laps I could considering the cold track.  Made it up to 34th on the standings (from DFL) by the time I got out.  Next driver got in and kept it clean, followed by the third.  Caught a lucky yellow and shorted the 3rd driver to fuel under FCY.  4th driver hustled till there was just over an hour left  and we had made it to 5th overall somehow.  Put the 3rd driver back in with instructions to give it everything, and he was able to push our fast lap into the 2:48s while holding on to 5th.  He took the checker and we loaded the jack/stands/impact and headed for impound.  Which he never showed up to....  Apparently the RF tire shreaded coming out of 3 just after the checkers.  He got off at 5 and limped it to the paddock not knowing he needed to be in impound.  After getting screamed at by a race official that he was supposed to be in impound, he changed the tire (it was balled up and trying to wreck the fender) with a spare jack and hand tools and met me in impound.

 

We discovered we nearly mtm'd a new beaded set of ST45s in one day, we put on a new set of pads, and moved some wheels around and looked everything over.  Pretended to be an F1 pit crew for the candy crawl, but our 2 year old Valtteri Bottas just wasn't having it.  We had fun giving out all our candy, and the weekends fruit snacks, and the extra candy from the track all the same.  Man that was a lot of kids.

 

We had good feeling about Sunday, since we should have been able to finish in 3 fuel stops.  That didn't quite go to plan.  Started early with some contact between us and one of the Neons, our driver attempted an overtake in the kettle bottoms believing the Neon driver had seen him coming based on the large space they left track right, but just as our driver pulled side by side the neon tracked out wide and they traded door donuts.  Didn't know which car till we reviewed video.  The Bad luck continued with the alternator failing just after the 3rd driver got in.  We changed it in a few minutes and sent him back out hoping to salvage a reasonable finish, but the car started going into limp mode just after the swap to the forth driver.  We swapped throttle bodies twice (thought I put a bad one back in the first time) but the problem would resurface after a few laps.  Finally parked it with an hour left and started the pack up.

 

Another great race weekend with ChampCar and Road America.  I have a few changes to make over the winter that will hopefully net the speed needed to bring home some hardware.

 

To the red Neon we had the contact with, sorry about that, we couldn't figure out who it was till we reviewed video, I intended to send the driver to find your team, but all our reliability issues pushed it from my mind.  CCES rules puts the onus on the passer to complete a safe pass, and we failed to do that.  That being said, having reviewed the video, I'd have gone for the same pass as it was an ideal spot that would not have required either car to lose any time.  It serves as a reminder of the speed deltas as well as driver awareness differences in this series, and the challenges that go along with those things.  We strive to make the cars we're passing aware by being predictable, but we often catch and pass cars in a short amount of time, and doing so without dramatically slowing our pace involves a certain amount of risk.  We strive to avoid contact as best we can and in the future we'll have to try harder.

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Premium Dudes report:

 

Best weather at Road America in... well I can't remember better weather for the October race. Fantastic weather for racing. Crisp autumn air. Not too cold. Love it.

 

Test day went well. Tightened some suspension bolts. Put down some fast laps. Good to go.

 

Saturday 8 hour: Knew we were taking an extra stop so we just ran hard. Big window for a FCY stop. JSK and Two Brothers were conserving fuel and made their 2 hour stints, but the pace they sacrificed to do that left the door open for us even with the extra stop. Our ace driver got down to around 2:47 flat, Andrew and I couldn't get below 2:50. Much witchcraft must have been involved in those laps, there is no other logical explanation. We caught the yellow we were hoping for during stint 3. Made the pit stop and suddenly we were neck and neck with JSK with equal stops remaining. The yellow was a double edged sword though... we got a cheap stop, and JSK no longer needed to conserve fuel, improving their lap times by about 3 seconds. I went out for our 5th and final stint and saw JSK fly past as I left the pit-out station, GAME ON. Then I got to turn 5 and saw a ton of smoke and pulled off track. GAME OVER. Turns out the left front wheel spacer came off on the old wheel and didn't go back on the new wheel when we changed that tire (we share wheels with Andrew's CRX and the offset isn't ideal for the e30 with a squeezed 245 on 8" rim). The tire rubbed on the strut and started melting and smoking. Towed back, replaced wheel and spacer, went back out and salvaged 4th place.

 

Sunday 7 hour was looking like a barn burner. 4 stints, no fuel save. Ran hard with JSK for about 8 laps in stint 1 while we carved through the field before they dropped out with (alternator?) issues. With #1 competition out of the way, we worked into the lead and then managed a 2 minute gap to 2nd place for the rest of the race.

 

Big thanks to ChampCar for another great weekend. Also a quick shout out to maxxis, we think the new VR1 falls somewhere between RS4 and RE71 on both grip and wear. Feel was good, we were happy with the performance and will be using 245/15 VR1 again in the spring.

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4 hours ago, jakks said:

Do you not want to go to a 9” wheel? Or gasp….. a 10” wheel? 

We have 14+ 8" wheels between us (mostly his) and certainly aren't going to just replace them all right away. Up until June of this year we have been running the 205 RE71 exclusively. We may buy a couple 9" and slowly shift over as the 8" wheels break.

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If anyone saw one of these on track, it's ours and we would like to know about when it fell off so we can guesstimate for how many hours we were sucking crap into the engine. Thank you.

 

https://www.autozone.com/intake-system/custom-air-filter/p/spectre-performance-cone-air-filter/415837_0_0?cmpid=LIA:US:EN:AD:NL:1000000:GEN:15062016444&gclid=CjwKCAiAm7OMBhAQEiwArvGi3C2eTGLUNM9pjF9xLlvlwHVOdF2h6WHnKm_RTeQvU5LEAIm3ch2BPRoC1T4QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

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13 hours ago, enginerd said:

If anyone saw one of these on track, it's ours and we would like to know about when it fell off so we can guesstimate for how many hours we were sucking crap into the engine. Thank you.

 

https://www.autozone.com/intake-system/custom-air-filter/p/spectre-performance-cone-air-filter/415837_0_0?cmpid=LIA:US:EN:AD:NL:1000000:GEN:15062016444&gclid=CjwKCAiAm7OMBhAQEiwArvGi3C2eTGLUNM9pjF9xLlvlwHVOdF2h6WHnKm_RTeQvU5LEAIm3ch2BPRoC1T4QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Oh man I saw that in the first stint and we put it on our car when we had a wire issue on a coil pack. We thought a double filter might help 🙂

 

Seriously that could be bad but hey your good at motor work with lots of practice. Hope it is not too bad.

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18 minutes ago, enginerd said:

Ouch, nice burn!

 

This engine has gone 22 hours now, double the previous one!

You are welcome to do the same to me as we went thru a bad run as well. The last two seem to be good now, but who knows now that we have

both talked about it we will get bit.

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Two Brothers had a good weekend.

 

We tested the car without aero Friday. It was hard to drive. We put the aero back on. Found our fuel consumption with the new motor right were the old one was. Couldn't run flat and make 2hrs, close but not quite.  

 

Saturday goal. Run as close to 2:54 as possible, conserve fuel, make 2 hrs. We were able to run 2:54's but needing to short shift made it very hard to navigate traffic and conserve. We need to work on that. We cycled around to 4th, late problem with Premium dudes got us 3rd. Trick or treating was great.

 

Sunday was full send and see where it shook out. We ran top 5 all day. At the last stop we came in 2nd and had the beer money Camero running 30 or so seconds back and to that point they were slowly tracking us down and Premium Dudes 2 minutes out in front. Went out for the last stint thinking it was going to be a barn burner shortly into the stint Beer Money went off track (hit oil?) and loosened up pressure from behind, Premium dudes would match laps with us and we knew they were just faster so we settled in for the remainder of the stint. Finished 2nd.

 

Congrats to JSK and Premium Dudes, both well driven fast cars. Was even more impressive to watch Premium dudes start a lap down from points and make that lap back and make 4 stop strategy work, they have a great group of guys working on the car and driving it. Well done!

 

No idea what our plans are for next year at this point, hopefully we will be racing with yall again soon!

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On 11/9/2021 at 8:44 PM, enginerd said:

Our ace driver got down to around 2:47 flat, Andrew and I couldn't get below 2:50. Much witchcraft must have been involved in those laps, there is no other logical explanation.

Is the argument that you need a much faster E30 than the field to make up for a 3 second driver spread?  

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6 minutes ago, LuckyKid said:

Is the argument that you need a much faster E30 than the field to make up for a 3 second driver spread?  

Jackie Chan WTF Meme Generator - Imgflip

 

 

We are driving the same car, I think the 3 second delta will be present with a variety of car configurations.

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SRX Racing Camaro 

 

Wow,  what a great time and learning experience!   Backstory first...


This is a new team and build that started in the spring of 2020.  Found a blown up beat down Z28 for super cheap in some dusty town in Nebraska,  brought it back to west central MN and built it up in the last year and a half.  The build went great and we took it to a track day at BIR and ran some laps,  we thought it went pretty well and signed up for Road America as our first race.  

 

The team was made up of Dirt racers and enthusiasts from MN that had a variety of experience in racing, from 20 years racing open wheel modifieds and street stocks to weekend mechanics helping dirt teams.    I had rented a seat in Turnin Motorsports BMW last fall at RA so I had a few hours on track and was the only one that had time going left and right.  The rest of the team had NEVER seen a road course until they drove through the Tunnel at RA!  

 

Practice day was a wash as our brand new alternator did not work and we scrambled to find a replacement,  that being said I got 5 laps in and Al got 5 laps also.  And at this point the car had maybe 90 minutes of total time on a track.   We honestly didn't know what to expect.

 

Saturday I started about mid pack and just worked on getting comfortable in the car.  After one hour it missed a few times what i believed was fuel starvation and came in, topped of and went back out, ran another hour, same situation arouse and pitted for fuel and switched drivers.   Now knowing that with the stock tank and pump we where only getting about 10 gallons of useable fuel that set up the rest of the weekend that we just pitted every hour.  Al (with ZERO experience) went out for the next two hrs followed by John (with ZERO experience also) and Mark ran the last two hrs.  Besides some contact in the passenger door in hour 7,  the car ran great,  we got no flags and had a blast.  We finished 16 overall and 4th in class.  Wildly exceeding our expectations!

 

Sunday I started once again mid pack and by the end of the first hour I had worked our way to 6th before pitting for fuel.  I also set our fast time for the weekend with a 2. 55 during that time.  John got in and ran great laps though out hrs 3 and 4,  I ran a stint and than Mark got in and ran the last 2 hrs to bring us home 8th overall and 2nd in class!   To finish both days and have no issues was a win in my book considering everyone was new to this type of racing.

 

The car ran great all weekend,  tires and brakes all looked great for running 15 hrs.  A fuel cell and a few other minor mods this winter and we will be back in action in the spring RA event.  Thanks to Champcar for the great event and some wonderful people in the pits that helped us with questions and procedures.  Hopefully we ran clean with our competitors on track and for giving us some brakes out there!

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4 minutes ago, jevchance said:

Does anyone have any photography from this event? Hoping to catch a really good photo of the American Express 1971 Pontiac Grand Prix. Thanks!

This guy took photos, scroll down to find the albums.

https://www.facebook.com/randy.ericksen

He said 'free to use images, if you want high res / no watermark send him a message and you pay for those'.

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