55mini Posted March 4, 2022 Report Share Posted March 4, 2022 Just talked to Pegasus on a new change for fire systems and had not seen this one yet. Sent our bottle in for refill and recertification and was called late today and told the bottle will date out at the end of this year. It can be serviced and filled for the next 9 months but at that time it is out of service, understand that. Next told the new FIA rule requires all systems to move from 6mm to 8mm and higher volume systems. So with that, the complete system needs changed to 8mm lines and nozzles and new bottle. Also told no one offers new bottles for the old 6mm systems. Putting this out so others can be made aware of changes ahead, maybe this has been discussed but I have not seen anything. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmabarone Posted March 7, 2022 Report Share Posted March 7, 2022 SPA 1/4 x 6mm (1/4") Push-in Fitting | Pegasus Auto Racing Supplies ??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55mini Posted March 8, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2022 On 3/6/2022 at 6:54 PM, jmabarone said: SPA 1/4 x 6mm (1/4") Push-in Fitting | Pegasus Auto Racing Supplies ??? Yes sir to all of the above, that is who told me of the new FIA change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmabarone Posted March 8, 2022 Report Share Posted March 8, 2022 1 hour ago, 55mini said: Yes sir to all of the above, that is who told me of the new FIA change. I'm not questioning you, just offering a possible solution for the lines. Again, that is if you have a SPA system. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Marshall Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 Hi Guys, Brandon from Lifeline USA chiming in here. I will speak with Pegasus to see where they received this information, but FIA does not dictate tubing diameter or size in any way, they just care that you pass their test with an effective system. For the record, there are currently homologated FIA systems that use 6mm, 8mm, or 10mm tubing. So if your system came with 6mm or 10mm, leave it as designed, otherwise changing tubing diameter will effect dispersion and performance of the system, as it wasn't designed or intended to use a different size tubing. On 3/3/2022 at 10:06 PM, 55mini said: Just talked to Pegasus on a new change for fire systems and had not seen this one yet. Sent our bottle in for refill and recertification and was called late today and told the bottle will date out at the end of this year. It can be serviced and filled for the next 9 months but at that time it is out of service, understand that. Next told the new FIA rule requires all systems to move from 6mm to 8mm and higher volume systems. So with that, the complete system needs changed to 8mm lines and nozzles and new bottle. Also told no one offers new bottles for the old 6mm systems. Putting this out so others can be made aware of changes ahead, maybe this has been discussed but I have not seen anything. Do you recall who you spoke with at Pegasus? 4 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55mini Posted March 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2022 On 3/9/2022 at 9:01 AM, Brandon Marshall said: Hi Guys, Brandon from Lifeline USA chiming in here. I will speak with Pegasus to see where they received this information, but FIA does not dictate tubing diameter or size in any way, they just care that you pass their test with an effective system. For the record, there are currently homologated FIA systems that use 6mm, 8mm, or 10mm tubing. So if your system came with 6mm or 10mm, leave it as designed, otherwise changing tubing diameter will effect dispersion and performance of the system, as it wasn't designed or intended to use a different size tubing. Do you recall who you spoke with at Pegasus? Brandon thank you as I was very confused myself from what I was told. It was further explained when I questioned it had to do with flow rate and nozzle requirements. Change needed to cover all the technology changes in current race cars, more electronics and such needed more and higher flow. I was told you have to change the complete system to 8mm. I'm sorry I don't have a name for you and maybe I misunderstood the information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmabarone Posted March 25, 2022 Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 I can confirm that the threads on the adapter from Pegasus are the same as the existing 8mm T adapter that comes with the new Lifeline bottles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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