2022 Thompson 12-Hour Race Reports and Results

[Bill Strong]

Official Results
https://speedhive.mylaps.com/Events/2043674

 

Podium Podcast

 

Top 10 -
1    12        Rockwell Autosport Development 1999 Porsche Boxster (White 12) 
2    918        Visceral Racing Group 1987 Porsche 944RS (RD/WT/BL)
3    471        Rosmar Racing 1999 Mazda Miata (Green)
4    662        Haywood Racing 1991 Mazda Miata (Blue/Yellow) 
5    770        Miskoe Motorsports 1994 Mazda Miata (YELLOW!) 
6    600        Official Unofficial Porscha Racing 1999 Porsche Boxter (white) 
7    473        Rosmar Racing 1999 Mazda Miata (Blue\ Grey)
8    294        Mostly Motorsports 1990 MAZDA RX-7 (RED/WHITE)  
9    59        Start racing 1999 mazda Miata (teal/magenta) 
10    617        Masshole Motorsports 1993 BMW 318i (White)  

 

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THOMPSON CHAMPCAR 12HR by Tommy Ayyggss

https://ayyggss.pixieset.com/thompsonchampcar12hr/?fbclid=IwAR0cnUzcWSY4jbJHjbPrPa-zjBfXNMjCFdRhBmWAAp149okSACa2S1uUlhs

[Team Infiniti]

Safety worked, the 444 is more then total, there is very little salvage, perhaps two wheels worth of suspension, the transmission and differential can be saved NOTHING else… Even the fire bottle is ruined.

 

One question:

Where else is this posted to garner 300views already?  

[QuaTTro]

9 minutes ago, Team Infiniti said:

 

One question:

Where else is this posted to garner 300views already?  

Champcar FB groups

[cbhaywood]

Hi Jay,

 

First of all, I am thankful for the safety rules for our cars, the track and especially the wonderful job the track personnel does at these events.  We are all so glad that the accident on the front straight ended in car damage and not injuries.

 

I am the owner of the #662 car that you called out. I spoke extensively with our driver about the accident, and with Mark Gregory, owner of the Rosmar miata. Our driver absolutely put his car in a dangerouse position making the pass, putting two wheels on the grass, which you see when our car shudders. But at no time did he make contact with the Rosmar car. The Rosmar car was passing a Blue (with Red stripe) car when that same car was also passed on his driver side by a white boxster. At that point a the Rosmar car was hit on the driver side.

 

As for the radio messages, our driver was joking about a laps long and fierce battle he had been having with the white boxster. It was completely in bad taste that he said that he tapped him, and if you continue to listen to the driver of Haywood Racing 662 and a few seconds later you will hear him get on the radio and say that he was just joking.  Then the pit radio replies not to joke and to confirm the situation, to which the driver replies "Negative."  What the driver said was in bad taste for sure and for that I wish to apologize on behalf of my team.  

 

I am more than happy to discuss this further with you Jay if you have more questions about it. Again, I am thankful that everyone is safe after a frightening accident at the fastest part of that track.

 

Sincerely,

Brett Haywood

Edited September 5, 2022 by cbhaywood
Accuracy of car color and spelling

[Jay Condrick]

Thanks Brett, updated here and FB to reflect your input.

 

It may in fact be the orange and blue car that hit the 743...but my comment that the 662 started the whole mess still stands.

 

Thanks for the apology, it would have been better received by our team in person.

[Racer28173]

4 hours ago, Team Infiniti said:

Safety worked, the 444 is more then total, there is very little salvage, perhaps two wheels worth of suspension, the transmission and differential can be saved NOTHING else… Even the fire bottle is ruined.

 

One question:

Where else is this posted to garner 300views already?  

What video are you referring to?  Thx

[Bill Strong]

9 hours ago, Racer28173 said:

What video are you referring to?  Thx

It was removed by the OP

[MichaelPal]

it's still on youtube...from car 473 POV.

 

 

9 hours ago, Racer28173 said:

What video are you referring to?  Thx

 

35 minutes ago, Bill Strong said:

It was removed by the OP

 

[MMiskoe]

17 hours ago, cbhaywood said:

Hi Jay,

 

First of all, I am thankful for the safety rules for our cars, the track and especially the wonderful job the track personnel does at these events.  We are all so glad that the accident on the front straight ended in car damage and not injuries.

 

I am the owner of the #662 car that you called out. I spoke extensively with our driver about the accident, and with Mark Gregory, owner of the Rosmar miata. Our driver absolutely put his car in a dangerouse position making the pass, putting two wheels on the grass, which you see when our car shudders. But at no time did he make contact with the Rosmar car. The Rosmar car was passing a Blue (with Red stripe) car when that same car was also passed on his driver side by a white boxster. At that point a the Rosmar car was hit on the driver side.

 

As for the radio messages, our driver was joking about a laps long and fierce battle he had been having with the white boxster. It was completely in bad taste that he said that he tapped him, and if you continue to listen to the driver of Haywood Racing 662 and a few seconds later you will hear him get on the radio and say that he was just joking.  Then the pit radio replies not to joke and to confirm the situation, to which the driver replies "Negative."  What the driver said was in bad taste for sure and for that I wish to apologize on behalf of my team.  

 

I am more than happy to discuss this further with you Jay if you have more questions about it. Again, I am thankful that everyone is safe after a frightening accident at the fastest part of that track.

 

Sincerely,

Brett Haywood

Brett

 

I don't think your driver did anything wrong, he left room to Mark's car.  He had a run, there was room, he took it.  I've driven a lot further into the grass going under the starter stand to do similar things.

 

Has anyone had a word with the driver of the Ford?   This seems like the prudent thing to do next and if it isn't happening then the question is why.  We all make mistakes, but if you don't know you've made one then it is unlikely you'll work to avoid it in the future.

 

I've been in a much faster car cresting the hill and finding someone ahead in a slow car meandering down the middle of the track.  It is a defining moment when you make the decision for which side to take.  So far I've chosen correctly and I don't have stories like this to tell.

 

 

[Throoster]

I am really curious as to what happened at impound. Is anyone willing to talk about it?

[cbhaywood]

I don't know what happened, but the White Unofficial Boxster was in impound and now shows in 6th place in the overall results. I did not look at their tech sheet and therefore don't know how many points they claimed, but the official standings shows them penalized 5 laps.

 

I'm not sure who lodged a protest, if anyone, but Porsche guys know Porches, and there were two other porsches in impound.

 

 

Edited September 13, 2022 by cbhaywood

[Throoster]

that's what enquiring minds want to know.....

[Ronh911]

Unofficial Boxster claimed a 2.7L on their tech sheet but took the 2.5L points. 

[Ian]

54 minutes ago, Ronh911 said:

Unofficial Boxster claimed a 2.7L on their tech sheet but took the 2.5L points. 

 

I feel like I've seen this one before, and Tuttle has been awful quiet this year......  ( green font)

[DEE DEE]

14 hours ago, cbhaywood said:

I don't know what happened, but the White Unofficial Boxster was in impound and now shows in 6th place in the overall results. I did not look at their tech sheet and therefore don't know how many points they claimed, but the official standings shows them penalized 5 laps.

 

I'm not sure who lodged a protest, if anyone, but Porsche guys know Porches, and there were two other porsches in impound.

 

 

There was no protest

[Throoster]

Thank you everyone for the information. It seemed like a stiff penatly, but it works out based off the points. 

 

Now comes a deep dive to see what the visual differences between the two are.

[Wheelman_99 - C Rallo]

20 hours ago, Ronh911 said:

Unofficial Boxster claimed a 2.7L on their tech sheet but took the 2.5L points. 

Is this the same team that was looking for a 2.7 cam? sensor right before the race?

[Wheelman_99 - C Rallo]

On 9/5/2022 at 6:09 PM, Team Infiniti said:

Safety worked, the 444 is more then total, there is very little salvage, perhaps two wheels worth of suspension, the transmission and differential can be saved NOTHING else… Even the fire bottle is ruined.

 

One question:

Where else is this posted to garner 300views already?  

Wow. 

 

This incident is a good argument for covering wheels/tires better. At least the front side.

 

As stated, 4 wide and especially slow car(s) in the middle, not so good either. 

[DEE DEE]

24 minutes ago, Wheelman_99 said:

Is this the same team that was looking for a 2.7 cam? sensor right before the race?

Nope

[Bill Strong]

On 9/13/2022 at 6:03 PM, cbhaywood said:

I don't know what happened, but the White Unofficial Boxster was in impound and now shows in 6th place in the overall results. I did not look at their tech sheet and therefore don't know how many points they claimed, but the official standings shows them penalized 5 laps.

 

I'm not sure who lodged a protest, if anyone, but Porsche guys know Porches, and there were two other porsches in impound.

 

 

 

Their electronic tech form listed the 2.7 liter engine, and some points for a suspension component. But the total points for the car was listed incorrectly on the sheet. He never denied the engine was a 2.7. It was just that they listed the wrong VPI on the tech form. It happens and that's why we review it. His placing was adjusted.

[MMiskoe]

As the beneficiary of the change I'll comment.

 

Tech came to us as we were packing up and told us we needed to at least get inspected, I don't know if we were asked to go to impound.  I wasn't the first point of contact and by the time I sorted out what was being asked for the request was to get the car off the ground and some tires off it.  So we did.  Tech guy (Thomas?) walked around, looked at the tech sheet, shined his light on a lot of things, commented we'd taken too many points for our springs even though we were still under 500, told us congratulations, we moved up to 5th overall.  He didn't really comment on why other than there was an error on someone's tech sheet and they had to take some penalty laps.  He never told us who it was.

 

Later I went to talk to the Rosmar guys and the gentleman with the white boxter was there.  I sort of know him and his son through SCCA racing.  He told me it was his car and that they had mis-counted points and were actually over the 500 mark.  When I told him we'd been the beneficiary of it, he shrugged and congratulated me.  I didn't ask the details of which parts were wrong, it didn't matter.  Earlier in the weekend his son commented that "last year we started xx laps down because we were over in points, but we change some things to fix that".  At neither of these interactions did they seem like they were trying to hide anything.

 

I know a year ago I botched the e-tech sheet, it didn't save correctly and it had all the wrong stuff.  Dana took me aside and asked about it, but when we went through what it should have been we were not over in points.  I would be that it has happened to a few teams.

[Team Infiniti]

@MMiskoe It was good talking to you even though conversation was instigated by a little oops.

[Bill Strong]

I had some folks ask if they could buy some high res prints of my images.

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