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Road Atlanta - Epic Battle with Miata :)


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First time at a chump race, and im impressed :)

Sunday morning had a awesome raging 15 lap battle with a miata

which gets heated up towards the end even more.

Had to meet and greet the guy after the stint :)

We raced clean, and gave each other enough room...great driving.

First time on this track, first time with this car...loved every second of it :)

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LOL Yea.. i knew he was dead focused on my back bumber...and wanted to make sure he didnt

hit the car trying to pass me on the outside on T1 as i slowed down for that yellow... i only knew there was a

car in the middle of the road from the tire smoke,, and the yellow which came a few seconds after that smoke.

I also did not want him to get a black flag...had a feeling the battle was just starting lol :)

The car was #33, and camera gopro2

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That was super fun to watch, especially learning each other's strengths allowed you guys to do a better job of blocking and letting things happen, too.

Not sure the little compact needed the one finger salute early in the video; he walked away and you never saw him again. let those people go....

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Yea, both cars were faster from each other in diffrent sectors, which made it the battle last quite some time.

Saying that,, the reason why i gave the finger salute was,,, because i had already did a point by to the guy

before him,, and had already commited to my turn in on last T...when he dive bombed me... i thought to my self

"why the hell can't you wait for a second,, and pass on a safe area"...he almost pushed me on the grass...you

can't tell quite from the video but the car was twicthing around and i almost lost it there, quite scary :)

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"Letting the big boys by ..." :)

Its clear the car was a bit unstable with the Civic passing at 12.

My question though, is before you passed the Miata around 10-11 min mark, how come you kept going to the inside of 10a when you would catch the Miata on the back straight? It appears you had the power/top end in the battle but just about every time you would catch the Miata on the back straight you'd go to the inside there. Were you trying to out brake them to get infront, or just trying to show that you were there? With a power advantage, you would of been best to stay behind the Miata on the racing line to get a much better exit speed from 10b and then attempt a pass in 12, down the front straight, or at turn 1.

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"Letting the big boys by ..." :)

Its clear the car was a bit unstable with the Civic passing at 12.

My question though, is before you passed the Miata around 10-11 min mark, how come you kept going to the inside of 10a when you would catch the Miata on the back straight? It appears you had the power/top end in the battle but just about every time you would catch the Miata on the back straight you'd go to the inside there. Were you trying to out brake them to get infront, or just trying to show that you were there? With a power advantage, you would of been best to stay behind the Miata on the racing line to get a much better exit speed from 10b and then attempt a pass in 12, down the front straight, or at turn 1.

That is a good question... i def. had the top speed advantage like you said, but my car had bad low rpm torque,, the miata was also

nimble on the S's as designed. So.. as i caught him on the back straight, i knew i could outbrake or attempt to outbrake him..it was a bit of a bluff...my plan was if he was checking his mirrors on the braking zone, he would see me braking heavy in the inside line and back off, and let me take the inside line to 10a,, but i'm afraid most of the time he had no idea i was right next to him...or maybe he was bluffing me ;)

Would love to hear the thoughts of that driver,, although we met after the stint had a hand shake and a hug, i forgot to ask his name :)

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Thats awesome, looking forward to round #2 of this battle with him :)@

Cemaykan I will race with you any time and at any track and I too am looking forward to round two. Yes I did know how close you were in the brake zone of T10a I left you just enough room if you wanted to try to pass. After our first thumps up exchange

(exit T7) I felt a level of recpect for each other I felt confident you would not do anything crazy.

David

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Cemaykan I will race with you any time and at any track and I too am looking forward to round two. Yes I did know how close you were in the brake zone of T10a I left you just enough room if you wanted to try to pass. After our first thumps up exchange

(exit T7) I felt a level of recpect for each other I felt confident you would not do anything crazy.

David

Right on buddy...! glad to hear from you...a proper drivers driver... see you on the track :)

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Yea, both cars were faster from each other in diffrent sectors, which made it the battle last quite some time.

Saying that,, the reason why i gave the finger salute was,,, because i had already did a point by to the guy

before him,, and had already commited to my turn in on last T...when he dive bombed me... i thought to my self

"why the hell can't you wait for a second,, and pass on a safe area"...he almost pushed me on the grass...you

can't tell quite from the video but the car was twicthing around and i almost lost it there, quite scary :)

He couldnt wait "because racecar". That was a race, not a track day. Point-bys mean nothig. If you miss the apex by 10 feet, you can bet somebody driving a civic well can squeeze in there. No reason to flip him off. The only person you should be upset with is yourself. Keepin both hands on the wheel may even land you closer to the proper line on the track. Good luck

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He couldnt wait "because racecar". That was a race, not a track day. Point-bys mean nothig. If you miss the apex by 10 feet, you can bet somebody driving a civic well can squeeze in there. No reason to flip him off. The only person you should be upset with is yourself. Keepin both hands on the wheel may even land you closer to the proper line on the track. Good luck

I didn't see it that way. I think OP has good skills, but the passing car got to his quarter and didn't fall in line. This made OP have to create space he didn't plan to have. Front bumper passing rear bumper does not entitle you to racing room.

Without an aerial shot I'm just speculating...but I think the OP had right to take a mental note. I agree that getting angry or risking your drive to retaliate is not a good idea.

hmm...I love this armchair.

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He couldnt wait "because racecar". That was a race, not a track day. Point-bys mean nothig. If you miss the apex by 10 feet, you can bet somebody driving a civic well can squeeze in there. No reason to flip him off. The only person you should be upset with is yourself. Keepin both hands on the wheel may even land you closer to the proper line on the track. Good luck

I don't think the OP "missed the apex by 10ft" but had to adjust his line last minute because the civic divebombed. You can see he glanced in the mirror after turn in and realized the civic was on his back 1/4. The civic doesn't even reach is door until after track out. T12 is a serious commitment corner and a mishap there can be extremely dangerous. Closing the door (taking the apex) at that point would have likely landed both drivers in the hospital. Nice driving there OP, you sure had your hands full. IMO, a sketchy move by the civic, he may have had a run but if he's not at the door he doesn't have the pass. Yes, its a race, but its an endurance race....no need for McNishing here. I don't fault the OP for the 1-finger salute....I probably would have thrown it too.

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I don't think the OP "missed the apex by 10ft" but had to adjust his line last minute because the civic divebombed. You can see he glanced in the mirror after turn in and realized the civic was on his back 1/4. The civic doesn't even reach is door until after track out. T12 is a serious commitment corner and a mishap there can be extremely dangerous. Closing the door (taking the apex) at that point would have likely landed both drivers in the hospital. Nice driving there OP, you sure had your hands full. IMO, a sketchy move by the civic, he may have had a run but if he's not at the door he doesn't have the pass. Yes, its a race, but its an endurance race....no need for McNishing here. I don't fault the OP for the 1-finger salute....I probably would have thrown it too.

Thanks Bremsen... you were right on.. I had to adjust my line due to the dive bomb mid corner, i could have lost it...if i didnt see him dive bomb i could

have closed the door and caused both of us to be in the wall... if he was right next to me before my turn in...he had the way,, but he was a couple

feet behind me when i started turning in...i see chump-car as a multi-class race (althogh it is advertised as 1 class),, slower and faster cars need

to know how to co-exist together and take on risks that actually makes sense... no need to be a 1 lap wonder, its a enduro...glad to see many people

on same page here, looking forward to running with you guys again in the future :)

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Many people on the same page...maybe thats why the race was an endless string of cautions. As a driver that has won a few CCWS races, its much easier to pass when the slower car runs the correct line as fast as he can. Let the faster car change course. Its unsafe for everyone when the slower cars try to make evasive maneuvers in traffic. If they are closing on you that fast, there is a reason. Make em earn it, then try to learn something before they get out of site. Just my .02 and only trying to make CCWS safer and more fun for everyone. Hope to run with you at the next time we get on the track, good luck.

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