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I believe there was some sort of error in the fastest lap reporting.

I recall running faster than that in the short course 1.28s and know we can't run that fast on the long course.

It is all quite fuzzy, but I was getting lap times called to me while running the short course.

I certainly could be wrong, but I will check further when I can.

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John, there is something haywire with it. If you look at he actual lap data for us, we put in several 1:27s on the short course but the 'best lap' shows 1:30...

The best I saw on the traqmate was a 1:26 flat which was backed up on my laps.

Thanks to chumpcar staff and volunteers for hosting another quality event.

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For this race I was a competitor and had duty to my team first. I agreed to help, as I could, with timing stuff for this race :). This is the only race this year where I chose to drive instead of "work" :).

What happened is when I set up the timing, I selected a track the timing computer already knew about, Spokane County Raceway. But if you remember, for the 14 hour even in May, we ran the long course the entire time. As such, I had set the minimum lap possible for a chumpcar on Spokane County Raceway to be a 1:30.00. Thus, when we switched to the short course, the timing computer assumed all laps under 1:30 were impossible. I made the adjustment to the track's data after the fact, but it didn't retroactively update the "fastest lap" of the team data, even though if you look at raw data of laps, you'll see faster ones listed. An artifact of changing the minimum valid lap time after the timing has started.

So yeah, nothing was missed, and if you check your raw lap data above, you can find your actual fastest lap time. It's just the timing software didn't update its auto-summary.

Sorry. Didn't have my mind on the "timing" what-if's of this race, was way more focused on the team and the car.

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Example - Race Winner #10 Martini Racers' fastest lap was Lap 436, at 1:12 AM, with a 01:27.299

Sorry to make you guys have to "search" for it.

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I was watching the race monitor from home and was very curious as to what was going on, haha. I was going into all of the top teams and seeing what their fastest times were though. Many teams were in the low 1:27s including the Martini, Titleists, Produnk, MAYBE the Audi(or 1:28 for them?), and the fastest I remember seeing(but I think there were more) was a 1:25.8 by maybe the Backmarkers?

I want to know the story of the Canadian Neon though! Fastest car out there!?! Must be an R/T with the 150hp motor base, I assume??

And what happened to the poor Cond Damage team that was doing so well in the top 3 for a good while?(found out elsewhere, headgasket failure resulting in an engine swap to take the checker!)

Who/what is the Mediocre Motoring #0 car?

What were the problems with Todd's Roadsters? (Roadster slow from the get go, Roadster Z haulin balls for a while until something, what, happened?)

Ferrari Massacre 2 car, the Porsche I think? It was doing well, and then? The ZX2 slowly worked it's way up the field, well done.

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Thanks ChumpCar for another awesome event, we had a great time. My whole team had great racing and no complaints.

After overcoming a new alternator that decided it did not want to charge and a fuel pump that decided now was the time to fail we were finally able to start racing and climb up through the standings from 29 out of 30 cars. Since two of our regular drivers couldn't make it we had two new drivers who both performed well. I think we lost our fuel pick up in our regular stock gas tank as we could only go 45 minutes before starving for fuel so we had many extra stops along the way.

My one off was going through the far 180 two wide with Cone Damage at sunset. I was confident we could make it until I lost sight of the track and their Miata with the sun in my eyes then I felt two wheels off and next I was going sideways in the dirt. It only resulted in a rear flat tire and I was soon back on track.

Thanks again ChumpCar!

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I was watching the race monitor from home and was very curious as to what was going on, haha. I was going into all of the top teams and seeing what their fastest times were though. Many teams were in the low 1:27s including the Martini, Titleists, Produnk, MAYBE the Audi(or 1:28 for them?), and the fastest I remember seeing(but I think there were more) was a 1:25.8 by maybe the Backmarkers?

I want to know the story of the Canadian Neon though! Fastest car out there!?! Must be an R/T with the 150hp motor base, I assume?? And what happened to the poor Cond Damage team that was doing so well in the top 3 for a good while?(found out elsewhere, headgasket failure resulting in an engine swap to take the checker!)

My fastest laps in the "Canadian Neon" was 1:43:797 on the long and 1:25:200 on the short. Its the same car we ran at Road America except about 50lbs lighter. Basicly intake, header and ditch anything that the car doesen't need to race. I am confident we will be in the sub 1900lb category by the time we show up in Iowa. There are more details on the car in the Road America thread:
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I was watching the race monitor from home and was very curious as to what was going on, haha. I was going into all of the top teams and seeing what their fastest times were though. Many teams were in the low 1:27s including the Martini, Titleists, Produnk, MAYBE the Audi(or 1:28 for them?), and the fastest I remember seeing(but I think there were more) was a 1:25.8 by maybe the Backmarkers?

I want to know the story of the Canadian Neon though! Fastest car out there!?! Must be an R/T with the 150hp motor base, I assume??

And what happened to the poor Cond Damage team that was doing so well in the top 3 for a good while?(found out elsewhere, headgasket failure resulting in an engine swap to take the checker!)

Who/what is the Mediocre Motoring #0 car?

What were the problems with Todd's Roadsters? (Roadster slow from the get go, Roadster Z haulin balls for a while until something, what, happened?)

Ferrari Massacre 2 car, the Porsche I think? It was doing well, and then? The ZX2 slowly worked it's way up the field, well done.

I was driving the Z, the car is still having some teething problems, but is a FANTASTIC car. Joe and Todd have definitely built another winner in AJ (Todd's name for the Z)

Bob the roadster was was not really slow from the get go, it just did not post a lap until lap 22. Bob, unfortunately was destroyed during the race, I will let Todd elaborate if he wants to. I, for one will miss that little car. It never ran fastest lap during any Chump race, but won 4. It was truly the "energizer bunny" of Chump cars. I hope the spirit of ol' Bob is tearing it up in race car heaven! Maybe he will be reincarnated...............................................

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I was driving the Z, the car is still having some teething problems, but is a FANTASTIC car. Joe and Todd have definitely built another winner in AJ (Todd's name for the Z)

Bob the roadster was was not really slow from the get go, it just did not post a lap until lap 22. Bob, unfortunately was destroyed during the race, I will let Todd elaborate if he wants to. I, for one will miss that little car. It never ran fastest lap during any Chump race, but won 4. It was truly the "energizer bunny" of Chump cars. I hope the spirit of ol' Bob is tearing it up in race car heaven! Maybe he will be reincarnated...............................................

Oh, and I was also personally responsible for losing at least 10 laps in the Z. I went off pretty hard in 2 on the long course, and tore the fuel pump wiring off (also lost the transponder, which thankfully my wife was able to find in one piece the next day!). Although 50 years old, I am still very new at this, and let the 18 year old inside me get the best of me a couple of times before settling down.

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Who/what is the Mediocre Motoring #0 car?

Hi, Matt from Mediocre Motoring here.

We are the white/black/blue/pink Golf - we're actually pretty similar in setup to Titleist and Martini (mk2 golf with a 2.0 ABA swap) but we were experiencing electronics issues for most the race and were down on power. Car ran great at night though and we were able to push up from 22nd to 10th by the morning.

Just want to give a quick shout out to Squirrels of Fury for fronting us a set of spark plug wires after ours got torn during troubleshooting and also for the relay they gave us to fix our fuel pump issue. Huge shout out to the CSCC/Titleist crew for helping us troubleshoot our silly little motor. Never did get it working right but appreciated it nonetheless.

Cheers,

Matt

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Oh, also with all of our stuff going on with the car besides the race I didn't manage to wander down to 77's pit, I don't know if you had a new driver or what but you should warn your drivers to look at every flag station as they are driving. I got up to a yellow and slowed down and your car went by me. I passed your car under green then a short time later we hit another yellow where your passed myself and the next car. This all happened in the same stint. I don't think you got a black flag so the station workers missed the passes. For your safety and everybody else's you need to keep an eye on every flag station.

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77 also passed us a few times under yellow and yellow white. We decided it didn't make any difference so gave it a "meh", but it should be noted to watch for. ;) Indirectly once the yellows out, I check my mirrors less (shouldn't be anybody passing me) and I concentrate on flag stations and safety stuff in front of me. So it's worth a mention. Yellow, to me, means keep your eyes peeled and look forward, be safe.

We had a great time, learned a lot again. By 10:45pm we were dead and done with transmission that would no longer rotate. when it locked up and I went off (thankfully on the slowest part of the track.)

We also fought CV axles, we ruined 4 of them, due to excessive heat (they essentially welded solid). I bought all the axles in the city of spokane before it was over.... We scooped out the factory grease and put the most bad donkey high temp grease we could find, did it help? Dunno... probably didn't hurt... I hate working on CV's... Fought blow-by and vaccum issues, changed ball joints at the track, and plugged away. engine started giving out about 4 hours in. Was slowly getting slower, and slower. Each guy that would get out of the car would report he was basically 8-10mph slower on the straight than the previous guy.

Personally, I think we cooked the rings when we were having all the trouble getting the ignition to work with this car.

One of our guys went off and ruined 2 new tires and wheels, that kinda sucks.

We got, I think 264 laps.

We have our most trouble at night, it's just hard to judge distances of the folks behind you that are wanting to come around. My apologies if we gave anyone grief in the dark. Just can't distances if all you see is one bright dot. Been easier if we were faster... that's a different issue. ...lol...

Need new engine transmission again, axles, wheels and tires... Other than that, we're good to go!

Was a good time. Sucks though, but we're learning this endurance thing. See ya at the ridge.

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Oh, also with all of our stuff going on with the car besides the race I didn't manage to wander down to 77's pit, I don't know if you had a new driver or what but you should warn your drivers to look at every flag station as they are driving. I got up to a yellow and slowed down and your car went by me. I passed your car under green then a short time later we hit another yellow where your passed myself and the next car. This all happened in the same stint. I don't think you got a black flag so the station workers missed the passes. For your safety and everybody else's you need to keep an eye on every flag station.

I got passed under a yellow by the number 13 E36 "chumpcar" right in front of a turn worker station also. I am one of the least experienced drivers out there, but I try very hard to follow my mentors, Todd and Joe's advice to hold my line, and pick my battles, so if I caused anyone grief (which I am sure I did) please accept my apology.

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Overall I thought it was a great group of drivers, pretty much everyone was courteous and safe on the track, and friendly in the paddock. Vast majority of the cars seemed well matched. Had a great time. Hope we didn't cause any problems for anyone.

Only had an issue with a couple of teams. I got passed under yellow probably about 6 times, and under white (which explicitly was mentioned at the driver's meeting) maybe 3 times. Which was pretty crazy because every turn station was directly in people's line of sights unlike some tracks. So top tip: if the competitor in front of you eases off the pace while raising their hand in the car, probably should wonder why and start looking for flags.

There was one team that was particularly agressive and also ignored about black flag for about 15 laps (I know because I was stuck behind him/her). I don't what is worse, a driver that doesn't see that many black flags or that they are intentionally ignoring it. Either way, I'd prefer to not race with them.

Anyway, great weekend as per usual, looking forward to the next one.

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#75 Neon here

after a long road home, we are here safe and sound

On behalf of the rest of the NNM guys that are not online I'd like to thank the volunteers and chump for making the weekend possible!

Specifically the JAT and Paul Newmans Revenge for being great neighbours in the paddock and making us feel at home. - its always reassuring when you come to a "home track" and get treated with such courtesy and respect.

and our competitors, #24 golf and #9 porsche - thanks for being great teams and working with us on pit stops, and making a long race breeze by with conversation and some good old fashioned harrassment!!

(#24 jinxed us, Asked when we were going to break, and the clutch pressure plate grenaded not 2 laps later.)

overall I'm happy how our weekend went, its a little rough going from a 6 lap lead to 30 laps down swapping a clutch - BUT - thats chump car. We have a fast car and one day (hopefully) it'll finish on top and not in the paddock!

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Good work on 8th, Kris. How'd the car do over the long race? Did you guys have to repair/replace anything?

Thanks. It did pretty well! We had to get towed in at about the half-hour mark, after the engine died and wouldn't start. Turned out to be the distributor, internal coil probably. Didn't really have any issues beyond normal stuff (refilling oil, etc.) from that point on. Car isn't the fastest, but it isn't the slowest either. Feels like most of the cars are within a second or two per lap on either way so it makes for pretty good racing.

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