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  1. ... if the rules were the same for everyone. Recent examples being lightened flywheels free for some but not allowed for others, corrected now. Ram's horn 2 points because cast iron while another team gets hit with 50 points for a hood that is the same material as OE but not the same shape, hoods now 25 for everyone although not sure about ram's horn. The Tech desk has not improved optics because the vast majority of the rulings are not posted so I don't see how it is much different from before. To whoever said 15 is equivalent to 50 - maybe if 80 other cars were not dropped at the same time for a double dipping, maybe if the car had actually made the podium impound in the last seven years, maybe if the car didn't initially get 100 points just for leading Tyler by half a lap. Sorry, got distracted when someone told me there was a new kerfuffle. Now back to the electric power steering.
  2. I would be too embarrassed to answer that question as well for the fastest car in the series or maybe there is some hidden cast iron in the assessment somewhere. Now back to my 5.0 Ford stock replacement because it is more fun than the secret rule book.
  3. What is the base VPI and fuel capacity of that super fast machine? It must have been the drivers and not the car since it didn't get a VPI increase after that kind of performance or maybe you didn't manage to get half a lap on... a certain someone?
  4. I wonder how those "in the know" got to be "in the know"and how one was to know there were other rules to know. Really glad I wasted a bunch of time building two cars to the written rules while others were building to "in the know" rules. It would have been so much easier knowing E36, E46, Camaro, ballooning, flywheels, and whatever other "in the know" rules out there. 305 makes "near identical" hp as 350 - hahahahaha. Seems like there are no rules if you are "in the know" - hahahahaha, I finally get the "they are just an awesome team" line, in reality they are just "in the know". John also ruled ECU's were 75 points, driveshafts 50 points, surge tanks were 2 gallons (later changed to 0.5), etc. but those all have been changed. Why would the Camaro (and fuel) rules be so untouchable? Never mind, no longer curious, still trying to figure out why the 5.0 factory engine replacement is so much wider, have to tilt that sucker to squeeze it in.
  5. Shocking how easy an entire K-member, front suspension/wheels/brakes, Coyote engine, trans, steering rack move between cars generations apart after removing seven bolts, two brake lines, and a single connector for the computer. What is the rule again, if it bolts in it is -50 points but if you have to weld it is +50 and a formula or something like that?
  6. It is strange and you are missing something. I will let you in on a little secret, Bill doesn't publish any of the answers I get on the techdesk so don't look there for any of my valuations. Jay did later change to 10 points for the flywheel or whatever it is now but the message was received loud and clear. Anyway, peace out hope everyone had a good race. Sad to hear both of those teams have moved on. Date: 2020-01-09 23:23:32 Name: Ron Ens Email: Message: I have had rulings in the past on the following with some of them on my car and I want to be sure everyone is taking the same points. How many points are the following items? 1 Swap from an engine OE mechanical clutch fan to electric? 2 Poly steering rack bushing? 3 Aluminum steering rack bushings? 4 Swapping out a steering rubber rag joint to a steel U-joint? 5 Aluminum flywheel? 6 My car has drum brakes, how do I 2X to caliper and rotor? Is it backing plate, piston, springs, drum then 2X to caliper and bracket? What if the backing plate is no longer available and I can’t get a price on the backing plate? 7 Is a short shifter points? 8 Is a bump steer kit points or is it just points for the two spherical rod ends? 9 Is converting from four lug rear axles to five lug axles considered points? 10 Is a heater core repurposed to a fluid cooler points? I am converting from old brake bearing in rotor with cone bearings on a spindle to modern spindle/hub/rotor hat. I am taking 10 points per spindle, will there be additional points for the hub that is needed to make the new spindle work? The old rotor was essentially the hub. Date: 2020-01-10 14:12:47 Name: Ron Ens Print Message: This was all asked for an 87-93 Ford Mustang but would apply to any car. Date: 2020-01-10 22:45:46 Name: Jay Mauney Print Message: #1 -0 #2 -0 #3 - materials #4 - 0 #5 - not allowed #6 - need more info, was a car in your platform avalible with disks ? if so use that . #7 - no #8 - need more info, 10 point each stearing component or points for heims #9 - no , drilling = free #10- no , but you must have documentation and pictures of the where the repurposed materials came from and how you installed the materials if you wish to use the materials for no point add . #11 10 points per spindle , 2.5 per hub , hat added to rotor cost within 2X no points more than 2X added points.
  7. Different than in the past as in... last month and things are different now? Again? I have been hearing that line for many years, too many years. Eastern Miata asks tech last year how much for an aluminum flywheel? Answer: those are free. Western Mustang asks tech last month how much for an aluminum flywheel? Answer: those are not allowed. I just stopped in hoping the Doorslammers had shown up, sadly they didn't and nor did SoA, Griggs, Arsenic. Looks like Flyin Hawaiian's and Bandits both had a less than optimal race.
  8. Was the entire race damp? Nobody even got close to Doorslammer's 1:48.5 a couple of years ago. It has always been known that the eastern rule set has been much looser than the western rule set. It is much easier to win when one group has rules to follow while the other group doesn't have any rules.
  9. Ha, do you really think I would be so careless as to rely on only one approval from only one person four years ago? I was going by memory but because I am irritated here are the dates of my e-mails: Dec 12, 2017 Mike C approves the 1993 Cobra at 250 points, we run it for a year and it never makes the VPI list Jan 3, 2019 Jay reapproves the 1993 Cobra is available to use as supplying the engine for a swap despite it still not appearing on the VPI list Jan 21, 2020 Jay rejects 2X for brakes from a 1993 Cobra because it does not appear on the VPI list. I'm just guessing but I assume the answer would be the same for swapping out the engine. Gosh I guess I better run out to pull the engine so I can quickly yank the cam and roller rockers as those are illegal since I can't claim a Cobra swap anymore, or I take 50 points for cam and 50 for rockers. Or maybe I need to run around and find a 94-95 Cobra intake for $1,000 so I can claim a swap from that car to keep the cam and rockers for the same performance. Or maybe I need to find an unknown number of other people to ask the same question. Or maybe I should just give up.
  10. Not sure who you think the liars and real racers are. All I see are a few more western teams leaving. Just recently got my second "Not allowed" answer - huh, what? But it has been allowed for about four years. Better run out to the garage again to remove those parts too if I wanted to be non-EC. So if I follow the process above I need to get multiple (20? 50? 100?) people to ask the same question then it will allowed? Did I miss that fine print somewhere? Was Phil lying years ago when he said flywheels are 15 points? Was Parts Badger lying when he said he had tech approval last year to run a flywheel for free? Was I lying when tech said they are not allowed? Peace out, good luck in the series. Consider the above questions rhetorical.
  11. It is only hard if you want to follow the rules. Looks like I probably need to edit my statement above to four changes in flywheel value - if I was concerned anymore. Way back when I was concerned about points (like last week), we would not spend $6,000 to go to a race then sweat bullets for the 30 minutes in impound hoping we would not get caught for: Flywheel Header Heads Intake Rockers Cam Cobra engine Driveshaft As not quite OE but pretty close so it “should” be free, right?
  12. Yeah whatever, I'm only here because we have one race credit to use up from a race we had to cancel. I am tired of my points having to readjust every couple of months because BMW or Miata needs or doesn't need a part to be free or points. We will probably be EC as I don't think I have the patience to read through the entire techdesk that is growing by the day to find the points for the items not in the rules in the effort to have a "stable" rule set. I submitted the aluminum flywheel question out of curiosity, shocked it was not allowed for the Mustang, jaw dropped when Miata gets it for free, now 10 points, I think steel is free but I wonder if cast iron or billet steel comes into play. Crazy that an SFI flywheel would not be allowed when SFI is the word of the day for fire suppression. Aluminum flywheels have been in the series for what, 10 years and over the course of a week or two it gets three different values depending on what car it is for.
  13. If those are true then obviously the Mustang must pay 48 points for a fibre glass hood even though it came with one, pay 20 points for a power steering cooler while others get it for free, and cannot run an aluminum flywheel that others get for free. Miata and BMW can run the larger tank, Honda can inflate theirs. Oh and the TBird needs a 10 lap penalty because it led by half a lap that one time. Not green font. I think I am starting to understand the rules finally. While I am at it, can someone remind me - back with the original board members were they always EC when they raced?
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