Jdgun Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 I am planning on building a chump car that will be for sale at the next race at VIR ,,, what do you all think ,, would it sell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilwheel Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 Sure, build two or three, they sell like hotcakes don't ya know. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellow Mike Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 If your going to start some buzz over you custom cars for sale you need to post a lot more information , like what kind of car, what's in it and the price. Personally, I think you should cut down on rolling your own. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron_e Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 ^^^ agree, have you checked out the prices of other ChumpCars? Maybe turn a profit if you work for free I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastZ06 Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 If your car wins overall at any endurance Chumpcar race at VIR, I will gladly buy it for $4,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdgun Posted March 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 We just built our first chump car for the last race at vir,, 6 days road to track,, 773 racing for heroes car,, I really enjoyed the build,, I am bidding on a 99 Eclipse with v-6 an manual trans. An a z-28 v8 with manual trans,, if I do this I would do turn key build,, inspected an ready to race ,, as far as the price, not sure must pay for its self an a little profit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginerd Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Jdgun said: We just built our first chump car for the last race at vir,, 6 days road to track,, 773 racing for heroes car,, I really enjoyed the build,, I am bidding on a 99 Eclipse with v-6 an manual trans. An a z-28 v8 with manual trans,, if I do this I would do turn key build,, inspected an ready to race ,, as far as the price, not sure must pay for its self an a little profit There's a pair of orange eclipses that raced last year.... spent more time in the pits than the track. Just observing, very limited knowledge of the platform. I would be surprised if you can break even on a build-to-sell ChumpCar, even with free labor. I wouldn't pay much for an unraced car... would want to see that it survived a few races first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Infiniti Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 1 hour ago, enginerd said: There's a pair of orange eclipses that raced last year.... spent more time in the pits than the track. Just observing, very limited knowledge of the platform. I would be surprised if you can break even on a build-to-sell ChumpCar, even with free labor. I wouldn't pay much for an unraced car... would want to see that it survived a few races first. Those eclipse are local to me, turbo 4 bangers with a unlimited budget and they don't hold up, saying that, Evilwheel and crew do well with their NA V6 3000gt but it took quite some time to get em reliable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdgun Posted March 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 Thank you all for any info, as I am new to this chumpcar stuff, I do listen an take any an all advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick House Racing Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 1 hour ago, mcoppola said: ^^^Yeah, I'm sure you can build one helluva competitive car in 6 days. LOL. Are you a troll, or do you roll your own, like someone else mentioned. Dude, They posted in another thread. They run a non_profit shop for disabled veterans. I am guessing some sort of training deal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilwheel Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 Like has been said before there is a problem with purchasing a unproven car, don't care what platform it is either. I think that if you build it first and then show it can be competitive and reliable on the track for a few events by having the veterans take it and race it then you could consider selling it. And this could actually help your sell. Example....... New car, 3 races old, top ten finishes overall and maybe class wins too would go farther in helping you than a fresh build. Don't get us wrong, we're all pulling for ya with helping the veterans and we think that's awesome ! But selling something new that doesn't come from Roush or Penske or someone well known looks problematic to me. Build it, race it, then sell it. IMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdgun Posted March 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 Not sure what you mean about a troll or roll your own,, did build a safe car not the best of everything but we will get better an faster,, but we did rotate vets in an out of the car all day an had a great time,,, just an idea I had about building an selling cars as I am a fabricator ,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
u-turn Posted March 11, 2017 Report Share Posted March 11, 2017 (edited) I think your idea has merit if this was a spec series or you had history of building one brand of car. Edited March 11, 2017 by u-turn Spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolcars44 Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 i have been racing a pair of rx8s for about 3 years now with around 12 races on both cars and trust me when i say it takes alot to keep a car going from the start to finish and to be a top 20 car alone is a hard thing to do let alone finish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginerd Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 8 minutes ago, coolcars44 said: i have been racing a pair of rx8s for about 3 years now with around 12 races on both cars and trust me when i say it takes alot to keep a car going from the start to finish and to be a top 20 car alone is a hard thing to do let alone finish when you aren't campaigning a BMW. FIFY 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Advisory Committee Chris Huggins Posted March 13, 2017 Technical Advisory Committee Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 On 3/11/2017 at 2:43 PM, Jdgun said: Not sure what you mean about a troll or roll your own,, did build a safe car not the best of everything but we will get better an faster,, but we did rotate vets in an out of the car all day an had a great time,,, just an idea I had about building an selling cars as I am a fabricator ,, I think we understand that you are a non-profit working to support veterans - We all support that effort. That said, I second the "roll your own" comment. I don't see there being a market for build-to-sell CHUMPCAR's. Look, for example, at the super nice and clean SC300 that has yet to sell at a price less than 33% of what they likely spent to build it, NOT including labor costs. EVEN working for free, its not going to be possible. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Advisory Committee Andrew D Johnson Posted March 13, 2017 Technical Advisory Committee Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 I raced a Chumpcar that went from street to track in 2 weeks a few years ago. It was one of the worst racing experiences I have ever had. Building chumpcars for resale is not profitable in any form. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miatainium Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 What you may want to consider is to build 2 or 3 cars and offer arrive-and-drive full-service rentals. This is a proven model that works for many teams ... you certainly will not get rich, but it's a fun way to get out to the races. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdgun Posted March 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 Thanks for all the advice,,, alot of good points ,, I think I will just work on improving an making our car faster,, I am a dirt racer,, I came up to VIR one week b4 the race ,, worked long hrs to put racing for heroes car together,, haven't enjoyed building an wrenching on a race car that much in 20 yrs,,, 1st chump race but not the last,,, had alot of fun 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogren-Engineering Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 Poor business model ; spend 10K in either cash or time and sell for 5000$ The cars that are worth something are the race winning BMWs. They may sell for about 50-75% of build cost. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdgun Posted March 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 Thanks for all the advice guys,,, hope our next race will be at Watkins Glen with 773 cars,,, faster this time ,,, we really enjoy racing with everyone,, learned alot in our 1st race ,, good luck to all 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmas Posted April 1, 2017 Report Share Posted April 1, 2017 I think it might be a lot of fun if you guys built 4 of the same car so they were as identical as possible. Then rent them out as arrive and drive like Miatainium said. It would be like going to a go cart track on steroids for a group of friends who want to compete with each other with equally matched cars. Also would be good for training, for a team to rent for a track day. No wear an tear on your team race car, but can get the whole team on the track at once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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