Jump to content

Tire ban list in the future?


Recommended Posts

  • Technical Advisory Committee
14 minutes ago, flyinglizard said:

 In the beginning..  

In the beginning  

 

4.3.2. After any previous ChumpCar World Series (or other) racing event, teams may replace any worn, broken, ventilated, impaled, defective or bent-beyond-all-recognition parts on their car -- anything -- without affecting the value of the car so long as it's a used or junkyard part and it’s OEM and it's 100% stock. No new parts; no aftermarket crap; no OEM part that's been modified or upgraded in any way… and no swapped parts just because they fit. Everything has to be OEM and 100% stock and wellused to qualify for the no-added-value pass. It would serve all teams to keep their junkyard or CraigsList receipts

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Technical Advisory Committee
17 minutes ago, ABR-Glen said:

Don't worry Andrew, nobody takes Mike's suggestions seriously. 

 

I hope you are right.

 

if mike's suggestion was taken seriously I would have to build a wide body car, and spend a ton on wheels and fabrication. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

We usually run a full race weekend and one more day with a set of tires (225x16's).  If you are wearing tires that fast something else must be causing the excessive wear.  I would look at your alignment and then..........your drivers.  It is very easy to drive the tires off a car pretty quickly with "driving style".  Pushing into the corners too hard comes to mind and is what I see as an instructor so often.  Spinning the inside wheel on exit is a common one as well.

Edited by drgchapman
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, drgchapman said:

We usually run a full race weekend and one more day with a set of tires.  If you are wearing tires that fast something else must be causing the excessive wear.  I would look at your alignment and then..........your drivers.  It is very easy to drive the tires off a car pretty quickly with "driving style".  Pushing into the corners too hard comes to mind and is what I see as an instructor so often.  Spinning the inside wheel on exit is a common one as well.

But are you using rival-s or RE71R? That was the point of the thread.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Enginerd, We have run the Falken 615's, BFG Rivals, Dunlop Direzzas, and are trying the Proxis R1R at our next race.

All these tires run ~$640 the set.  If you are speaking to 200TW tires and are lobbying for 300-400 TW tires, good luck.  No one wants to race on those rocks, they also chunk out and fall apart. They are not designed for what we are doing.

Edited by drgchapman
  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Technical Advisory Committee
1 hour ago, red0 said:

 

I can make any 180TW tire last 16 hours easily with 205 width. What is your point?

But not everyone races a 1700Lb. car...

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Technical Advisory Committee
23 minutes ago, Mopar 4 Life said:

I really hope I get to use my 180tw slicks from Argentina this year

Damn. I  didn't think you were the type of guy to try to circumvent the rules. ?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 hours ago, drgchapman said:

Enginerd, We have run the Falken 615's, BFG Rivals, Dunlop Direzzas, and are trying the Proxis R1R at our next race.

All these tires run ~$640 the set.  If you are speaking to 200TW tires and are lobbying for 300-400 TW tires, good luck.  No one wants to race on those rocks, they also chunk out and fall apart. They are not designed for what we are doing.

The Falkens, Rival, and Direzza are three of the most popular tires out there. It is common knowledge that these tires will last a weekend and are legitimately 180-200 TW. The point of the post was to consider a ban on tires which have been introduced which are drastically softer (and therefore more expensive) than normal 180 TW tires. 

 

[edit] As Red0 wrote below, there's no good way to implement something like this.

The existing system is unbiased and objective... any attempt to regulate this would be based on a subjective assessment of performance and cost. If this is all about cost, would you ban certain tires because they cost more than another brand of similar performance? Would you limit widths / wheel diameters because larger diameters cost more? Would you ban tire shaving? It would be a subjective can of worms so it shouldn't be a rule.

Edited by enginerd
  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 hours ago, flyinglizard said:

The latest/fastest, tires wont go 6hrs on a Miata

I've noticed the same thing. tire Mfgs are building their tires for autocross.  It's a direct result of the dumb ass "Grass Roots Motorsports" articles that talk about 1/2 second per lap better tires. 

Not looking forward to what happens to my Direzza's in the next rev.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

 Share

×
×
  • Create New...