Ogren-Engineering Posted October 30, 2017 Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 I swapped in the 89 Chevy engine for the Nissan V6. I used the Microsquirt for both. How does the swap sheet cost value work for the Microsquirt at this point? Thanks,MM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Advisory Committee Andrew D Johnson Posted October 30, 2017 Technical Advisory Committee Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 • ECU, non-OE or chip replacement or chip re-programming: 0 pts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xph Posted October 30, 2017 Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 when you do swap math, you list out everything "required" for the swap... you have to account for every change you made to your car... however its up to you if you want to spend points or $$ to get it done.. $$ need to be covered under the 1500$. Obviously with a zero point item like ECU, you want to claim that as points... There are some fuzzy areas, for the most part, any wires, hoses, connectors and fasteners are free.. any brackets are cost... accessory drive items are generally not counted but only because they are generally included in the "engine" cost... in theory if you have to buy an alternator or starter to make it work you need to account for that in the 1500... its gets a bit more fuzzy when you do a trans swap, because for many cars, the starter is on the trans, which doesn't have the same 1500$ limit. so the engine swap calls out 1500 including adapters, but the trans swap says adapters are free (well included in the point charge without a maximum value)... etc.. again account for everything in your log book but choose how you claim the costs to whatever works best to your advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kentite Posted October 30, 2017 Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 Which Chevy engine into which kind of Nissan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvumtnbkr Posted October 30, 2017 Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 Ya know, I am curious what is going to happen when one of the swap teams gets protested. I teched my car at Mid ohio this year. Since I do not need to tech anymore, I do NOT carry around the individual swap form that I gave to Chumpcar. I am not sure if they carry the sheet around either. If somebody wanted to know if I claimed a different alternator than the 1 that my engine came with, How would I PROVE that I accounted for it? Logbook just says swap 51pts. It isn't detailed. neither is the tech sheet. The only sheet that is detailed is the swap sheet. Is it in a database somewhere? Can Chumpcar pull it up at any race and see what I claimed? Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron_e Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 I bring my log book, swap sheet, and tech sheet to every race whether I am going through tech or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogren-Engineering Posted October 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 There is a line on the swap sheet for ECU value . In conflict with the free ECU rule .. That is all. MY car is a truck . 2000 Ford Ranger , was a 4.0 auto 160 HP, Swapped to Nissan 3.0 , same HP. Now 1989 Chevy 245HP . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogtired Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 15 hours ago, wvumtnbkr said: Ya know, I am curious what is going to happen when one of the swap teams gets protested. I teched my car at Mid ohio this year. Since I do not need to tech anymore, I do NOT carry around the individual swap form that I gave to Chumpcar. I am not sure if they carry the sheet around either. If somebody wanted to know if I claimed a different alternator than the 1 that my engine came with, How would I PROVE that I accounted for it? Logbook just says swap 51pts. It isn't detailed. neither is the tech sheet. The only sheet that is detailed is the swap sheet. Is it in a database somewhere? Can Chumpcar pull it up at any race and see what I claimed? Just curious. I may need to stash a Ben Franklin in my pocket..... 😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogren-Engineering Posted October 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 Mike said that he wanted Mustangs,Camaros and Rangers to kick BMWass. He might have foregotten the Ranger /S10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest E. Tyler Pedersen Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 10 hours ago, flyinglizard said: There is a line on the swap sheet for ECU value . In conflict with the free ECU rule .. That is all. MY car is a truck . 2000 Ford Ranger , was a 4.0 auto 160 HP, Swapped to Nissan 3.0 , same HP. Now 1989 Chevy 245HP . Then claim your ECU with the money you spend on it. I'm going to claim my ECU on my stock BMW m20 as 0 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Advisory Committee Andrew D Johnson Posted October 31, 2017 Technical Advisory Committee Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 The Microsquirt is free. In the swap math, you need to have the $$ it takes for the ECU to make the car run (probably the ecu from the car the engine was initially in). That's how I do it at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron_e Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 10 hours ago, flyinglizard said: Mike said that he wanted Mustangs,Camaros and Rangers to kick BMWass. He might have foregotten the Ranger /S10 Give us some more fuel and we can work on that a little harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mender Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 2 hours ago, Ron_e said: Give us some more fuel and we can work on that a little harder. Apparently there's not a ghost of a chance of that. Just the idea of fuel parity has them spooked. They claim it isn't in the spirit of Chump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogren-Engineering Posted November 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 That was one parameter of my choice . 200pts, 19 gal fuel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pintodave Posted November 1, 2017 Report Share Posted November 1, 2017 14 hours ago, dogtired said: I may need to stash a Ben Franklin in my pocket..... 😎 Bruh. You thinking old skool. Save dat Bengi and quote rule 5.4.4... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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