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So after a big crashed wrecked our seat slider, I would love to try and get all of our drivers to fit without a slider. Our team ranges from 5'6" or so up to around 6'2". 

 

SO what is everyone doing to accommodate?  Set the seat as far back as possible with the shortest driver (though not ideal for him), then make the tall guy fit and say too bad?  Anyone use a different wheel (i.e. deep dish vs flat?)?  What else can we do here?

 

Thoughts, suggestions?

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15 minutes ago, thewheelerZ said:

SO what is everyone doing to accommodate?  Set the seat as far back as possible with the shortest driver (though not ideal for him), then make the tall guy fit and say too bad? 

 

That's what we did.  Shortest driver is 5'-3".  I am 6'-5".  small driver is pretty much as far back as she can go and a little lower than she would like.  She runs some pads to improve it a little but it still isn't ideal.  I am crammed in there with my knees pretty close to the wheel and it is awkward to turn the wheel to the point where my arms cross.  Having said that we both drive pretty well.  When I'm racing it never crosses my mind.

 

We drive an E30 sedan

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Ok. Thought this was the team. If you use the standard FIA dual locking seat sliders you should be ok. Momo, Sparco, Pyrotect etc pretty much all the same. Mount the seat using the side bolt holes in your seat not there bottom. 

 

Don't weld the seat sliders, I was told they were a harder steel and doesn't like to be welded.

 

Reinforce the floor where you attach the sliders or the frame. 

 

 

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11 minutes ago, cagedruss said:

Ok. Thought this was the team. If you use the standard FIA dual locking seat sliders you should be ok. Momo, Sparco, Pyrotect etc pretty much all the same. Mount the seat using the side bolt holes in your seat not there bottom. 

 

Don't weld the seat sliders, I was told they were a harder steel and doesn't like to be welded.

 

Reinforce the floor where you attach the sliders or the frame. 

 

 

 

From what I have read, none of the sliders are FIA.  And realistically, they look about the same as the OEM sliders.  Think they are that much stronger/better?

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1 hour ago, takjak2 said:

Our double locking Sparco sliders are FIA homologated. Bolted; welding would void that.

 

DO NOT USE EXTRA PADDING IN THE SEAT. I cracked a rib doing that.

 

Multiple steering wheels with different spacers is one easy step.

Adjustable peddles have been approved before.

 

What kind of pad were you using when you got hurt?  I'm pretty sure that there are safe pads to run.  Lots of pro and amatuer teams run molded foam inserts regularly.  Racetech sells lots of off the shelf pads for this very purpose, too.  I doubt that they would do that if they were likely to crack ribs. 

 

Here is the link for Racetech pads I'm referring to.  https://racetech-usa.com/shop/cushions

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5'-6" 145# as I get out of the car, paired with guys who are 6'-0" and close to 100# heavier.  I use hard foam seat pads and I tend to sit far back.  My co-drivers sit close.

 

I've done similar things for my kids in their karts.  In the karts we use stacks of cardboard taped together.  In the racecar I use foam that is harder than the foam pads you can buy for kneeling on. 

 

There is a limit to how far you want to get shimmed forward as you will start getting pushed out of the seat.

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12 hours ago, moortom said:

 

What kind of pad were you using when you got hurt?  I'm pretty sure that there are safe pads to run.  Lots of pro and amatuer teams run molded foam inserts regularly.  Racetech sells lots of off the shelf pads for this very purpose, too.  I doubt that they would do that if they were likely to crack ribs. 

 

Here is the link for Racetech pads I'm referring to.  https://racetech-usa.com/shop/cushions

I believe he referred to the incident in a previous thread.  The reason he broke ribs was because he used pads to make up the gaps and ended up partially outside the confines of the seat.  Incident occurs and he moved laterally into the edge of the seat and cracked ribs.  

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Our teams solution was to make two Garvin Motorsports seat inserts, same material used in your brain bucket. Takes some effort but there is no give at all

and once you are in you are completely custom fit. 

I looked for some time to find the right solution and spent some time on the phone talking to Jeff on details and he was great help. He has very good instructions

and if you follow them it goes well. They are one of the best mods we have done.

http://www.garvinmotorsports.com/

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On ‎1‎/‎31‎/‎2018 at 4:02 AM, jmabarone said:

I believe he referred to the incident in a previous thread.  The reason he broke ribs was because he used pads to make up the gaps and ended up partially outside the confines of the seat.  Incident occurs and he moved laterally into the edge of the seat and cracked ribs.  

Hi Gents,

 

Brian from Racetech here. Jay, the tech guy, mentioned me to get on board with ChampCar. Can I chime in on the whole slider deal?

As far as I know, Recaro/Porsche Motorsport are the only ones that manufacture an FIA approved slider. And it's set up just for Porsches.

It's really best to fix mount a seat and have a poured insert done for the small(est) driver(s).  So get a comfortable seat for the biggest driver first.

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 I worked tech with Jay and I tell ya he has great know how . He may not be up on our rules yet but when it comes to the safety stuff A++ . I learned a lot about seat and belt mounting . He has a lot of experience in other series and will be a great asset to us , I'm hoping he will continue to work for the club .. and take some of the weight off Phil and Dan ..

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