Technical Advisory Committee NigelStu Posted October 30, 2018 Technical Advisory Committee Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 (edited) I am contemplating selling the Datsun to free up some space and funds for other racing projects. Built the car from a half-project street car into full-prepped race car primarily for ChampCar. Fully stripped car down, installed cage, suspension, drivetrain. No longer has an engine in it, as I ran out of those... Raced it a few times (Road America, sort-of NCM and Gingerman), making it into impound just off the podium on one occasion (nearly 2nd place at Gingerman, but we were the cause of the end of race red flag with an engine that decided it wanted to show the world its internals). One of THE BEST sounding cars on track at Road America with that L28 straight six singing through the headers. Potential to be quick with stock power or very quick with a swap of some sort. Light, roomy cage built to provide excellent protection and maximize benefits for chassis stiffness. LOTS of points to play with (VPI 150) Fun to drive, no bad habits with the suspension setup. Good power out of the stock EFI motor with headers on it. Had a couple of bad luck used "good running" engines (that were not), mis-diagnosed alternator failure that cooked on engine and then a full rebuild that fell apart due to sub-par con-rod bolts the shop assured me would be OK. I'm out of complete engine, hence why it doesn't have one in it, and stalled with finding another stock / figuring out a motor swap. 98% clean '77 chassis (some not-great rust repair on back panel, rear fenders had been bondo repaired at some point in its life) Cage done by Schaut Speed Motorsports 18 gal aluminum case fuel safe cell NRG wheel/with removable hub adapter tach, other gauges Ground Control coil-overs, FR camber plates, RR slotted, tokico dampers stock sways Some poly bushings for suspension RR brakes swapped to discs - braided lines, mostly new hard-lines LSD from S130 turbo car (stock open spare) 5-spd trans (plus spare) Lots of new parts when first built Stock EFI in the car with new ignition/electronics Couple sets of 15x8 wheels with usable tires (for practice or holding the car up, few years old so not best to use for a race) extra brake pads Plethora of extra parts Turbo bits and pieces (came with the car) MSA front fascia Plywood front splitter simple rear spoiler As it sits, sans engine, points are at 265. TWO HUNDRED SIXTY-FIVE. For an awesome handling light weight car. VPI - 150 coil-overs - +40 front camber - +20 rear camber - slotted, free Brakes - within 2x, free Front fascia - airdam, +10 pts Splitter - +10 pts RR aero - +10pts Diff - +25 This leaves a whole BUNCH of points left over for doing a swap. Or cylinder head, headers, intake shenanigans. Aero could be improved. Suspension/brakes further updated. You could basically pick the car up, install a seat / fire system / engine, conduct some basic maintenance and go have fun. Car can be sold as is or with an engine re-installed and made race ready depending on how the buyer wants it. That being said, I have not come up with a desired price yet. Reasonable offers accepted. Available to view in Commerce MI Edited February 22, 2019 by NigelStu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Advisory Committee mcoppola Posted October 30, 2018 Technical Advisory Committee Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 No ! Eliza for sale? so much potential here.... car ran 1:50's at Gingerman and almost won, without even being fully sorted or developed yet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Advisory Committee Andrew D Johnson Posted October 30, 2018 Technical Advisory Committee Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 If I had more time and money, this would be one sweet ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDChristianson Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 stop putting such tempting things for sale. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55mini Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 Jeff maybe you could get it with the special block with extra airflow???? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Advisory Committee NigelStu Posted October 31, 2018 Author Technical Advisory Committee Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 (edited) On 10/31/2018 at 9:41 AM, 55mini said: Jeff maybe you could get it with the special block with extra airflow???? This one? It'll be extra. That is my garage 10 pack beer holder.... Some interesting potential swaps I have contemplated that would make this thing a rocket ship. Nissan VG/VQ (with or without valve covers) Nissan VK NIssan QR (Altima/Sentra SE-R 2.5 4 cylinder - all aluminum!) Honda J-series V6 BMW M50/52 Mazda 1.8 VVT (140-150 WHP on a mustang dyno possible within 500 pts) Chevy V6 Edited January 3, 2019 by NigelStu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zauskycop Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 This...makes me sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Infiniti Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 1 hour ago, NigelStu said: Honda J-series V6 This Cheapest, most reliable, great power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDChristianson Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 1 hour ago, NigelStu said: This one? It'll be extra. That is my garage 10 pack beer holder.... Some interesting potential swaps I have contemplated that would make this thing a rocket ship. Nissan VG/VQ (with or without valve covers) Nissan VK NIssan TR (Altima/Sentra SE-R 2.5 4 cylinder - all aluminum!) Honda J-series V6 BMW M50/52 Mazda 1.8 VVT (140-150 WHP on a mustang dyno possible within 500 pts) Chevy V6 I would never want to deprive you of your beer holder. You left out Ecotech from a Solstice or sky. About 180hp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbogrill Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 (edited) L28ET You are welcome. (The first thine that comes up when you google L28ET is: "The Ultimate L28ET Guide/What you need for 350+whp! - L-Series ...") Edited October 31, 2018 by turbogrill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gashouse Gorilla Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 NigelStu, I sent you you an email. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhr650 Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 L28 NA with state of the art modern twin scroll turbo and modern engine management. I thought about building an 82 or 83, you would end up with a ridiculously fast car and 22 gallons to play with. Even after you added the points for the turbo and charge air cooler you would have enough points left to basically build custom racing suspension at all 4 corners, and add full aero. The body shape with the long sloping hood, flat front with a splitter, the air coming off of the sloping rear hatch would combine with the flow coming from your diffuser then a little CFD would let you place your wing to energize both of those flows. The biggest downside is the cost and availability of cars and parts. And showing up and being told not to bring that car back no matter if it fits the letter of the rules………. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbogrill Posted November 3, 2018 Report Share Posted November 3, 2018 I would put in a stock/junkyard L28 with megasquirt, very mild cam and headers. With a low lift cam you don't have to fiddle with the drive drain or worry about piston to valve clearance. Might be able to run with carbs or stock EFI if you want to fiddle with that crap. It's a nice sweet spot in terms of money, points and time. The NA engine is very similar to the turbo version, so cooling and internals are up to the task for turbo duty. Should give you about 160hp to the wheels (dotted line, solid is with modifed intake): Details here, http://forums.hybridz.org/topic/123487-compare-your-dyno-sheets-here/ (not my engine). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwbakk Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 Any chance this car is still for sale? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Advisory Committee mcoppola Posted December 20, 2018 Technical Advisory Committee Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 Yep. Paging @NigelStu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Advisory Committee NigelStu Posted December 21, 2018 Author Technical Advisory Committee Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 18 hours ago, rwbakk said: Any chance this car is still for sale? Yes it is. IM for more info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvumtnbkr Posted December 21, 2018 Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 I vote Chevy v6. Preferably 3500. Mender can help with details. I can tell you how it runs in champcar in a red configuration. Engines can be had for $200 or less and make 200 hp. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Advisory Committee Andrew D Johnson Posted December 21, 2018 Technical Advisory Committee Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, wvumtnbkr said: I vote Chevy v6. Preferably 3500. Mender can help with details. I can tell you how it runs in champcar in a red configuration. Engines can be had for $200 or less and make 200 hp. That sounds hard to beat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff G 78 Posted December 21, 2018 Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 I wish I had the cash and space. I'd love to build a second Z. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Advisory Committee mcoppola Posted December 21, 2018 Technical Advisory Committee Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Jeff G 78 said: I wish I had the cash and space. I'd love to build a second Z. Jeff G - good to hear from you. How is your Z doing? Motor fixed now? Will you be racing in 2019? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff G 78 Posted December 21, 2018 Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 40 minutes ago, mcoppola said: Jeff G - good to hear from you. How is your Z doing? Motor fixed now? Will you be racing in 2019? Hey Mike, I am about to put the engine back together after tearing it apart and having the machine shop check everything out. All in all, it wasn't too bad. We do plan to race in 2019. We plan to run the 24 at Nelson Ledges and we are trying to get Z teams from all over the country there with us. We have at least five Z teams that say they will run that race. Hopefully all goes well and we are ready for testing in the spring. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mostmint Posted December 22, 2018 Report Share Posted December 22, 2018 21 hours ago, wvumtnbkr said: I vote Chevy v6. Preferably 3500. Mender can help with details. I can tell you how it runs in champcar in a red configuration. Engines can be had for $200 or less and make 200 hp. For a stock engine, these sound amazing with the right exhaust. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvumtnbkr Posted December 22, 2018 Report Share Posted December 22, 2018 I agree! When free revving or under load in the car, it sounds great! Outside of the car it just is too quiet and sounds like a ........... minivan.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mender Posted December 23, 2018 Report Share Posted December 23, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, wvumtnbkr said: I agree! When free revving or under load in the car, it sounds great! Outside of the car it just is too quiet and sounds like a ........... minivan.... Which is a really good thing at Laguna. Yeah, my drivers and I like it too! Here's a clip, start at 15:00: Edited December 23, 2018 by mender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pucksaq Posted February 21, 2019 Report Share Posted February 21, 2019 Do you have pictures of the chassis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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