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Figured I'd start a dedicated thread for this nonsense, as @Team Infiniti mentioned in another thread, looks like a couple of us are partaking in some good ol redneck shenanigans the weekend after Sebring at New Smyrna Speedway. Thought it would be fun to document it all in one dedicated thread. I plan on multiple cameras in-car and will put a video together. 

 

I procured a Neon from a fellow Champcar racer - thanks @TurboFox for enabling my bad habits, Stacey thanks you. I managed to already spend 1/5th of the purchase price on vinyl graphics - she gonna be purdy 🤣

 

$50 to enter, pays top 3: 2500/1000/500  in addition there will be other events like a demo derby, spectator racing, and I think a couple other things. If any other Champer's in C. FL aren't busy, it should be a hoot and I'm sure the kids will love it.

 

Recap of the rules:

ENDURO RULES 2019

Cars
American Made Only
4 or 6 Cylinder FWD automatic or manual.
Station wagons allowed.
No performance cars.
No turbo or super chargers.
No two seaters.
Racing seats allowed.
Doors must be chained or welded shut.
No cutting/ gutting of cars must remain BONE STOCK. (You may remove seats, carpet and inside door panels).
You may cut off exhaust.
Stock caster and camber.
Dashes must stay in.
If you are installing a 4 point roll cage, you may remove the dash COVER, all instrument panels must remain in their stock location
Airbags must be disabled.
Engine Compartment must be 100% Bone Stock including air conditioner if equipped.
Remove all headlights and tail lights.
Remove all glass (no diamonds) expect front windshield.
MANDATORY hole in the hood or hood pins in case of fire.
Race #s need to be min. of 24 inches.
Safety Bar & Roll Cage
MANDATORY Safety Bar 2 x 2 with 8th or ¼ inch thickness that goes door post to door post.
You may opt to install a 4 point roll cage as long as it doesn't strengthen the car or interfere
with the dash.
For Safety Bar lap belts are to be used only.
4 point roll cage can use 5 point harness.
Safety Gear
Window Nets are MANDATORY!!
Drivers must wear a helmet and fire suit.
If wearing a lap belt driver must wear a full face helmet.
Hans and neck restraints are encouraged.
Fire extinguisher in car encouraged
Rims
Must be OEM Stock Wheels aluminum or steel only.
Tires
DOT Approved Only. No Falken azenis RT615K tires. All 4 must match in size.
No truck, trailer, Bobcat or filled tires. Only air or nitrogen filled.

Driver must provide own scorer.
No riding on flats or rims. Do not enter pit area with flat tire or wheels off. Park on pit road.
All Drivers will be able to inspect all cars.
Cars will be parked on pit road by 5pm with hoods and trunks opened.
We reserve the right to reverse the race at anytime during the race.

*ADDENDUM
Batteries must remain stock location. You can spray foam them.
Exhaust- If cut off you may run same size pipe to exit the driver.

 

Here are pictures of our dream machines:

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Exposed :ph34r:

 

Well now that this has its own thread I can leave this here, NOT Florida exclusive so if anyone is as ate up as much as PintoDave/LeadsledMike and Team Infiniti you may find something here:

https://www.tourofdestruction.com/events

We usually attend

ORLANDO SPEEDWORLD'S NIGHT OF DESTRUCTION

NOVEMBER 29TH 7PM
 


ADDRESS: 19164 E COLONIAL DR, ORLANDO, FL 32820

EVENT LIST:
SCHOOL BUS FIGURE 8 RACE
JESTER MONSTER TRUCK
KRAKEN MONSTER TRUCK
BOAT & CAMPER TRAILER RACE
FWD DEMOLITION DERBY
SKID CAR RACE
FLAG POLE RACE
FIREWORKS
& SO MUCH MORE!

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@Team Infiniti How do you plan on whipping up a window net mount? Bottom side attached via flat bar bolted to door, top side mount and latch attached to door or to roof structure? I am thinking roof structure... 

 

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Much of our "engineering" is based on available structure, self preservation/common sense, and stuff laying around. Never know, it may wind up simply attached to the window frame, egress might be out the passenger window.

 

They are not real strict, I will let you know after its done. :P

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3 minutes ago, Team Infiniti said:

Much of our "engineering" is based on available structure, self preservation/common sense, and stuff laying around. Never know, it may wind up simply attached to the window frame, egress might be out the passenger window.

 

They are not real strict, I will let you know after its done. :P

 

Bah. I just looked at the Neon - built for speed, no top door frame 🤣

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Looking @ my steed, stripping will be easy, this POS was never really equipped, tossing the backseat will practically make this thing empty with minimal effort.

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7 minutes ago, 67Mustang said:

What, nobody showing up with an 82 Eldorado??

4 or 6 cylinder only. :)

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19 minutes ago, mender said:

4 or 6 cylinder only. :)

 

I was thinking of this guy, but maybe it would not really count being a fill in engine....  very good catch..

LC4[edit]

In response to rising gas prices, a larger 252 cu in (4.1 L) version of the 3.8 liter LD5 V6 was produced from 1980 through 1984 and marketed as an alternative to a V8. The bore was enlarged to 3.965 in (100.7 mm), yielding an output of 125 hp (93 kW) and 205 lb⋅ft (278 N⋅m). This engine was used in many large rear-wheel drive Buicks, and in some models from each of GM's other divisions, including Cadillac which offered the "big" Buick V6 in several models from 1980 to 1982 as a credit option to the troublesome V8-6-4 engine used in 1981 and early versions of the aluminum-block Cadillac HT-4100 V8 introduced in 1982. It was also the standard powerplant in the front-drive Riviera and Olds Toronado from 1981 to 1984. Additionally, the 4.1 block was used unsuccessfully at Indianapolis for racing. Its only weakness was the intake valve seals. This was the first naturally aspirated GM V-6 to feature a 4-barrel carburetor.

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That manifold was the hot trick for Buick V6s at the time. I also had a 3.8 turbo and the bolt-on 4 bbl adapter for quite a few years. Might be worth something now! :)

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Whelp, I just called the promoter then tech guy, seems they feel racing costs have gotten out of hand and want a "reset". Sounds vaguely familiar...

 

When asking about prep I was told "safety only" 4 point non structural cage optional, racing seat optional, remove glass, bar behind doors mandatory, chain/weld doors and that is it.  I say window regulators, he smugly asks if that is a safety item...sooo... car prep is going to be pretty simple, good thing as this will be a 4 day build after returning from Sebring :P

 

Its possible this will be a 50-100 car field.

 

@pintodave

It has started, tossed out the spare tire cover and surrounding plastic then drove it home last night, poured 5 gal of hurricane fuel in it then  transported 15 gal of hurricane fuel back to sharky. Mechanically all I need is a RR wheel bearing.

 

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7 hours ago, Team Infiniti said:

Whelp, I just called the promoter then tech guy, seems they feel racing costs have gotten out of hand and want a "reset". Sounds vaguely familiar...

 

When asking about prep I was told "safety only" 4 point non structural cage optional, racing seat optional, remove glass, bar behind doors mandatory, chain/weld doors and that is it.  I say window regulators, he smugly asks if that is a safety item...sooo... car prep is going to be pretty simple, good thing as this will be a 4 day build after returning from Sebring :P

 

Its possible this will be a 50-100 car field.

 

@pintodave

It has started, tossed out the spare tire cover and surrounding plastic then drove it home last night, poured 5 gal of hurricane fuel in it then  transported 15 gal of hurricane fuel back to sharky. Mechanically all I need is a RR wheel bearing.

 

 

Well that is good, sounds like they are committed to keeping it "stock" as they keep preaching it. We shall see!!! I'd love to see a 4.6 class catch on around these parts, both asphalt and dirt. I plan on talking them up on more budget racing. I've been holding my breath for 10+ years that the circle tracks would smarten up, so I will remain cautiously optimistic. 

 

For the cage, I will play with seat position (hopefully Thurs after Camaro is buttoned up), I am not sure if I can comfortably get the seat far enough fwd for the B-pillar bar w/o eating the steering wheel. If not I am thinking main hoop with drag-style door bars, super KISS yet a little extra safety. I have a spare seat I'd really like to mount so I can run the HANS. 

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Man......you 2 Hooligans got me thinking how I can get to Florida and knock hell out of a few fenders. I know a few of our Champ Sophisticates would not lower themselves and participate in such a gauche form of racing. If they would they may sell their road race cars and attend Betty Ford to rid there Enduro addiction!! 

 

Best set of luck and trade paint!!!!   😎

 

8 hours ago, pintodave said:

 

Well that is good, sounds like they are committed to keeping it "stock" as they keep preaching it. We shall see!!! I'd love to see a 4.6 class catch on around these parts, both asphalt and dirt. I plan on talking them up on more budget racing. I've been holding my breath for 10+ years that the circle tracks would smarten up, so I will remain cautiously optimistic. 

 

For the cage, I will play with seat position (hopefully Thurs after Camaro is buttoned up), I am not sure if I can comfortably get the seat far enough fwd for the B-pillar bar w/o eating the steering wheel. If not I am thinking main hoop with drag-style door bars, super KISS yet a little extra safety. I have a spare seat I'd really like to mount so I can run the HANS. 

 

16 hours ago, Team Infiniti said:

Whelp, I just called the promoter then tech guy, seems they feel racing costs have gotten out of hand and want a "reset". Sounds vaguely familiar...

 

When asking about prep I was told "safety only" 4 point non structural cage optional, racing seat optional, remove glass, bar behind doors mandatory, chain/weld doors and that is it.  I say window regulators, he smugly asks if that is a safety item...sooo... car prep is going to be pretty simple, good thing as this will be a 4 day build after returning from Sebring :P

 

Its possible this will be a 50-100 car field.

 

@pintodave

It has started, tossed out the spare tire cover and surrounding plastic then drove it home last night, poured 5 gal of hurricane fuel in it then  transported 15 gal of hurricane fuel back to sharky. Mechanically all I need is a RR wheel bearing.

 

 

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 Headliner and everything behind driver seat is now dumpster filler,  yesterday started looking at a pre-made rollbar hoop that has been kicking around the backyard...

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Buttholes...  I now live right up the road and neither of you guys has texted me about this...

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3 hours ago, Justin9 said:

Buttholes...  I now live right up the road and neither of you guys has texted me about this...

 

We can barely get you to Champ events! And +1 to what Ed said.

 

Also, there is still time. I have LITERALLY not touched the Neon except to move it out from behind the Camaro earlier today. Zero. Will be a literal 5-day "build". 

 

Come getcha some!!!

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6 minutes ago, pintodave said:

Come getcha some!!!

 I think I got him as  security/pit crew 😀

 

I just told @Chummy about this,  think he’s looking into it tonight, he’ll be pitted right next to us tomorrow, we can talk him into it then. 

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Do you guys think the blue one is too good for this race? The rear window has already been removed, the car is complete except for a battery and throttle cable right now.

 

Explain a “2x2 safety bar”? I would really like a harness, seat and a HANS. Do you think I could just weld in a harness bar between the b-pillars or would I have to build a real 4 pt cage?

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2 hours ago, BeastZ06 said:

Do you guys think the blue one is too good for this race? The rear window has already been removed, the car is complete except for a battery and throttle cable right now.

 

Explain a “2x2 safety bar”? I would really like a harness, seat and a HANS. Do you think I could just weld in a harness bar between the b-pillars or would I have to build a real 4 pt cage?

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2x2" square tubing installed between the front and rear door posts...  as for the neons...  send it...

 

wish I had some rolling junk available...   

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3 hours ago, BeastZ06 said:

Do you guys think the blue one is too good for this race? The rear window has already been removed, the car is complete except for a battery and throttle cable right now.

 

Explain a “2x2 safety bar”? I would really like a harness, seat and a HANS. Do you think I could just weld in a harness bar between the b-pillars or would I have to build a real 4 pt cage?

C55BC06B-C303-41B5-A7BA-695D53C3AB68.jpeg

FC974448-236C-4106-98E7-A1A118F1F0C3.jpeg

 

How tall are you? I'm 5-11, maybe 6-0 on a low gravity day and there is no way I can get the seat far enough fwd to get a bar behind me. Spoke with tech a couple hours ago, said I could put a jog in the bar to get some seat clearance. I also ran the idea of a main hoop with single angled door bar per side (like a drag cage) and he was cool with that. As long as the cage isn't over built to the point of stiffening it up he sounded ok with it, they are harping on stock. Edit: I'm also putting in a seat so I can run my hans. He also said you were allowed to run a 5-point with the b-pillar bar if you want.

 

I wouldn't bring the blue car, it looks fast 🤣

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Taking the safety rules as far as allowed, we have finally found a use for the mustang drag drag cage that I acquired 5 years ago, it required only a minute of hammer modification to fit the Focus. ;)

 

So far this race is $0 (car was free)

 

Whats next to do:

Finish drivers door/down bar

Figure out if a race seat will work

Install 5 pt. harness

Change P/S fluid

 

Oh, in typical form, I drove it home after the main hoop was installed :P

 

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