motoguy116 Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 Hey guys, Just wondering what you guys do when registering a car at a DMV (or if you even do that). A group of us became serious and are looking to buy a car to make into a champ car. Does your team as a whole register the car or do you register the car with one or two people? Also off topic, do you form a club with bylaws, do you have a LLC or 5013c? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Infiniti Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 Every team handles it differently, some states make it harder to register. We are in Florida, there is no inspection, one of us owns/registers/insures at his own expense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginerd Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, motoguy116 said: Hey guys, Just wondering what you guys do when registering a car at a DMV (or if you even do that). A group of us became serious and are looking to buy a car to make into a champ car. Does your team as a whole register the car or do you register the car with one or two people? Also off topic, do you form a club with bylaws, do you have a LLC or 5013c? Thanks! 501(c)(3)* Edited May 21, 2021 by enginerd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 501c3 likely won't happen. Getting non-profit status is tough. There are certainly advantages to and LLC, separation of liability and tax write offs, but as and LLC you do need to eventually show profit in I believe year 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvumtnbkr Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 @E. Tyler Pedersen Registration... 1 person owns and maintains that. Some states are very difficult to do this. PA was a nightmare and I didn't do it. South Carol8na is easier, but I still worry about getting pulled over without dot seatbelts, headlights, turn signals, etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Infiniti Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 9 minutes ago, wvumtnbkr said: @E. Tyler Pedersen ....I still worry about getting pulled over without dot seatbelts, headlights, turn signals, etc... Have been pulled over four times in 8/9 years, Three of those four times I was doing something stupid, mostly speeding, the other time, car was parked and being watched,I was pulled over immediately upon driving. Turn signals are easy, hand signals are still legal, don’t remove the steering wheel as not tip my hand about that, seatbelts are up to the officer to notice. Having the registration and insurance immediately available helps immensely, a good attitude and smile are mandatory. Amazingly I’ve been able to talk my way out of a ticket each time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 Ed nailed it. Don't be stupid, and have a great attitude. I've been pulled over a few times street driving race cars. Never had a ticket, and most officers think it's neat once they see I have rego and insurance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvumtnbkr Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Team Infiniti said: Have been pulled over four times in 8/9 years, Three of those four times I was doing something stupid, mostly speeding, the other time, car was parked and being watched,I was pulled over immediately upon driving. Turn signals are easy, hand signals are still legal, don’t remove the steering wheel as not tip my hand about that, seatbelts are up to the officer to notice. Having the registration and insurance immediately available helps immensely, a good attitude and smile are mandatory. Amazingly I’ve been able to talk my way out of a ticket each time. I have been pulled over about 20 times. I have received 3 tickets. Definitely keep the officer calm by shutting off car. Hands where they can see them. Be polite! It goes a long way! You are right about that! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitsbain Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 Don't drive the race car on the street 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Advisory Committee Andrew D Johnson Posted May 21, 2021 Technical Advisory Committee Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 48 minutes ago, Fitsbain said: Don't drive the race car on the street The Premium Dude's E30 has been driven all over the state of Illinois. Once the exhaust system fell off the car, and the fuel pump failed while directly in front of a cop. We also drove the car from the garage to the track for a track day. I was shocked we were able to drive the car in heavy traffic with no fan without any issue, but apparently M20s hardly even need working water pumps when running 10/10 at the track. Early on we tested quite a bit of stuff on the street, brake testing, engine testing, etc. The car used to be registered to @enginerd, but the car is no longer registered at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavro Posted May 21, 2021 Report Share Posted May 21, 2021 Lots of race cars registered in Illinois it seems, ours included. As the official car owner I take care of that on my own. I keep the "Expanded Use Antique" plate on it and the proof of insurance under the seat cushion. Haven't been pulled over yet (knocks on wood) but I'm also not driving it around much - back and forth to the shop a few times and down to Autobahn for a track days and race weekends. Since our town 4th of July parade got cancelled last year and we have a rather patriotic livery I threw some American flags on the wing and sticking out the window and drove around town for awhile - kids and cops alike thought it was pretty cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted May 22, 2021 Report Share Posted May 22, 2021 5 hours ago, Andrew D Johnson said: The Premium Dude's E30 has been driven all over the state of Illinois. Once the exhaust system fell off the car, and the fuel pump failed while directly in front of a cop. We also drove the car from the garage to the track for a track day. I was shocked we were able to drive the car in heavy traffic with no fan without any issue, but apparently M20s hardly even need working water pumps when running 10/10 at the track. Early on we tested quite a bit of stuff on the street, brake testing, engine testing, etc. The car used to be registered to @enginerd, but the car is no longer registered at all. Out of the 30 or so alignments I've had done on my race cars, I've only towed it to the shop once. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiredBirds Posted May 22, 2021 Report Share Posted May 22, 2021 On 5/20/2021 at 8:35 PM, motoguy116 said: Hey guys, Just wondering what you guys do when registering a car at a DMV (or if you even do that). A group of us became serious and are looking to buy a car to make into a champ car. Does your team as a whole register the car or do you register the car with one or two people? Also off topic, do you form a club with bylaws, do you have a LLC or 5013c? Thanks! here in Maryland if the car is over 20 years old you can register it as Historic, that is what we do. It allows us to drive it on the street w/o any issues. One person is all you need, but in our state the car must be insured, usually around $160-200/year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiredBirds Posted May 22, 2021 Report Share Posted May 22, 2021 23 hours ago, Fitsbain said: Don't drive the race car on the street why not? how else are you going to test it? our car as working lights, even turn signals and wipers. it is as safe, probably safer than most cars on the road. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Infiniti Posted May 22, 2021 Report Share Posted May 22, 2021 On 5/21/2021 at 2:28 PM, Fitsbain said: Don't drive the race car on the street So many things/nags get found/fixed/confirmed/bedded while running around town. I can not tell you how many weekends we have put the hood down before a race and to raise it the first time during post race inspection. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABR-Glen Posted May 22, 2021 Report Share Posted May 22, 2021 (edited) Don't underestimate the risk you are taking driving a car with a cage if you are not wearing a helmet. Edited May 22, 2021 by ABR-Glen 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Infiniti Posted May 22, 2021 Report Share Posted May 22, 2021 Best that can be done is wear the 5 point snug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanehutton Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 Being in Canada where there is absolutely zero chance of legally driving a race car on the street I still can't get over hearing stories of going for a drive to check the car over or bed in brakes. I am very jealous. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewheelerZ Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 ^^^ so freaking jealous! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petawawarace Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 3 hours ago, shanehutton said: Being in Canada where there is absolutely zero chance of legally driving a race car on the street I still can't get over hearing stories of going for a drive to check the car over or bed in brakes. I am very jealous. I’ve got a few spots that I can trailer to and bed some brakes in, but yeah it’s not something that’s easily doable up here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiredBirds Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 12 hours ago, shanehutton said: Being in Canada where there is absolutely zero chance of legally driving a race car on the street I still can't get over hearing stories of going for a drive to check the car over or bed in brakes. I am very jealous. why do you have to tell them it is a race car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetterhund Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 32 minutes ago, TiredBirds said: why do you have to tell them it is a race car? I am guessing it has more to do with vehicle inspections and they won't pass the inspection with things like roll cages, race seats, and harnesses. In the United States we generally have pretty lax vehicle safety/inspection rules compared a lot of other places, with many states having no inspections what-so-ever (except for restored from salvage, or similar situations). I am betting our Canadian friends are not so lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiredBirds Posted May 24, 2021 Report Share Posted May 24, 2021 3 hours ago, Fetterhund said: I am guessing it has more to do with vehicle inspections and they won't pass the inspection with things like roll cages, race seats, and harnesses. In the United States we generally have pretty lax vehicle safety/inspection rules compared a lot of other places, with many states having no inspections what-so-ever (except for restored from salvage, or similar situations). I am betting our Canadian friends are not so lucky. so get it inspected before you hack it up. In Maryland the inspection is a mofo, however you can tag an Historic car w/o one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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