wvumtnbkr Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 First off, I am not very good with new technology.... bit of a luddite. That being said, I figured it was time to upgrade our gauges and add some other functionality. I ordered a racecapture pro mk3 with the live telemetry communication. This showed up without the 5g connectivity. It is not possible to upgrade or add this connectivity, so I had to return it. This took 5 days to send it back and get the right one. No big deal and great customer service from Ballinger and autosport labs. I also ordered an fire hd 10 tablet when it was on sale. Finally, I was planning on using my existing sensors (longacre sensors for the smi digital gauges). The longacre senders are tough to find info on and did not give the results I was looking for. I ended up using the same or similar senders that autosport labs recommends. I wired everything up to the cars existing electrical system without actually installing the senders. The app is really easy to use to setup your dashboard and sensors. I verified the sensors (hence they were not installed) by using hot water for the temp sensors and air pressure for the pressure sensors. I used other gauges simultaneously to verify everything was in spec. I now have a functioning dashboard! I will update this thread with what I find and can answer any questions people might have with my install. I will also add pics in a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvumtnbkr Posted May 25, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 (edited) As you can see below, I chose "5" gauges for my display. I figured rpm, oil pressure, and engine temp were the main ones I needed to monitor while racing. The other 2 spots are for the best lap and the current lap. At the bottom of the display, I included 3 things that don't really require much attention but might be helpful. These 3 "gauges" are also built into the system and require no inputs to the racecapture system. I figured battery voltage can be useful for diagnosing that fuel problem..... that was actually an alternator issue... Speed can be used in the pits or under pink or purple flags (lolz). You have the ability to configure the gauges to create different outputs at different ranges or setpoint. For example, my tach turns yellow at 5800 rpm, and turns red at 6300rpm. The oil pressure gauge has a yellow warning section, a red section and a pop up (shown below) that says to shut off the engine. Initially, the red panel takes up the entire screen for a second and then drops down as in the attached pic. It doesn't block gauges this way. The message goes away when the situation is resolved. Edited May 25, 2021 by wvumtnbkr 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbhaywood Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 We are big fans. We ran one unit last year. Worked through some teething issues, mostly on the telemetry side. Onboard cell coverage is the way to go. Added a unit for second car for this season. Having worked very well at a testing session several weeks ago, we are excited to implement our #fingerscrossed fuel flow sensors this weekend for the first time in real action. We hope this will translate into the our pit having an accurate real time view of our fuel level, something we found quite lacking our last time at WGI. Good luck with your implementation, and if you have any questions, happy to share my limited knowledge. Brett 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Infiniti Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 Originally we had a race capture MK1 , It wasn’t a fit for us, we were understaffed and it required somebody with a little more skill...sold it, glad to see this maturing nicely. How about adding fuel pressure on display? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvumtnbkr Posted May 25, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 24 minutes ago, Team Infiniti said: Originally we had a race capture MK1 , It wasn’t a fit for us, we were understaffed and it required somebody with a little more skill...sold it, glad to see this maturing nicely. How about adding fuel pressure on display? Yep. The cool thing is that most sensors have an automatic setting that will make it work. You just go into the settings, give the "channel" a name, and click on the type of sensor and brand, etc. It automatically sets it up. Then you can add that to the dashboard. One interesting feature is that if you have a sending unit hooked up and enabled, the data will be there. You don't need to have it on the screen (dashboard). So, for example, if you wanted to monitor fuel pressure in the pits, but not have it on the dashboard, you can!. You can also overlay that data with the GPS data and see if you are getting pump starvation on fast right handers. It's pretty capable. For this first race (CMP), it is gonna be just a dashboard that I can take out of the car at the end of the day and analyze the driver data. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Infiniti Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 7 minutes ago, wvumtnbkr said: Yep. The cool thing is that most sensors have an automatic setting that will make it work. You just go into the settings, give the "channel" a name, and click on the type of sensor and brand, etc. It automatically sets it up. Then you can add that to the dashboard. One interesting feature is that if you have a sending unit hooked up and enabled, the data will be there. You don't need to have it on the screen (dashboard). So, for example, if you wanted to monitor fuel pressure in the pits, but not have it on the dashboard, you can!. You can also overlay that data with the GPS data and see if you are getting pump starvation on fast right handers. It's pretty capable. For this first race (CMP), it is gonna be just a dashboard that I can take out of the car at the end of the day and analyze the driver data. Plan on seeing me, I’d love to look at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbogrill Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 I also like the custom CAN and OBD settings. Makes it possible to add stuff that the manufacturer of the tablet didn't think about. The script part is pretty cool as well, we use it to improve fuel readings a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Beisler Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 We have been running the Racecapture stuff for a few years now. I'm thinking about upgrading for the better cell coverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit Posted May 25, 2021 Report Share Posted May 25, 2021 I was just thinking about something like this the other night when I was using the remote function to run a laptop at my shop. Wouldn't it be possible to use an OBD2 dongle with the Torque app on a tablet and monitor it from the pits via the remote function in Windows? I'm somewhat computer literate but not an expert by any means but it seems that should work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvumtnbkr Posted May 26, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 What I have heard and understood is that the sampling rate is pretty poor with most of the slightly older gm communication protocols. What you are describing is the racecapture track mk2. Basically.... The difference is that it also adds a GPS based laptimer and analysis to the obd2 data. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy G. Elliott Posted May 26, 2021 Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 I used Race Chrono at RA this spring, since I have no OBD on my GTI it was valuable information for lap times and splits, the overlay on the track map is awesome too. I installed it on my old Tab E Samsung Droid and it worked very well, also nice to ad my own personal track with splits (the road in front of my house and down the next road aways)! Works great for seeing improvement's. That's how I knew I fixed our top end issue. Also uses the GPS in the tablet with no internet or WIFI needed. Could use it to record video too! Have to move it up higher to uncover the camera for that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakks Posted May 26, 2021 Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 Brew Krewe and Running Bulls also will be at CMP running RC as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvumtnbkr Posted May 26, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2021 58 minutes ago, jakks said: Brew Krewe and Running Bulls also will be at CMP running RC as well. I hope to be pitted with brew krewe. Doc and I party very well together. If arjun is there, well.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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